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    Default 25nl 6-Max: Top & Bottom Pair Facing Flop c/r

    Flop:Does anybody find a fold here? The c/r is pretty ugly as I doubt the typical 25nl post-flop nit doesn't have me beat (3 combos of 66 and 2 combos of A6s), but I call to assess the turn plus I have the backdoor nut fd.

    Turn:As played, would you find a fold here? Or even consider a semi-bluff jam? Villain doesn't quite give me pot odds to chase the nut flush and I'd expect most villains to c/f even if I do hit, meaning I doubt I have the implied odds to call.

    River:What's the plan for non-spade rivers facing a bet? Easy fold?

    Only had about 40 hands on villain at the time, playing around 17/10, folded 1/1 to cbet. Didn't seem particularly imaginative or aggressive.

    Hero (Button) ($32.40)
    SB ($33.07)
    BB ($38.69)
    UTG ($25)
    MP ($29.74)
    CO ($11.98)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 3
    3 folds, Hero bets $0.75, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

    Flop: ($1.75) 6, A, 3 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB raises $3.25, Hero calls $2

    Turn: ($8.25) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets $5.50, Hero?????
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    given positions id prolly have to 3b this flop and prolly call now and prolly fold if we face barrel number 3, as i dont expect villain to ever vbet worse on the river and i doubt he is ever airball bluffing.
    i would fold this turn w/o As
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    After only 40 hands, there is almost no read that will get me to fold aces-up OTF. This is probably a 3-bet spot, to encourage Villain to bear in mind that BTN v Blind battles are not just easy steals for him.

    Folding Aces up w/ NFD has got to be a bad play almost every time, too. IF Hero is behind OTT, there are 13 outs to complete to a better hand than Villain (well, probably 11 outs, as Villain seems to have a strong piece of this board, but it could be 66). I can easily jam OTT.
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    3b flop, you get value from a lot of AK,AQ,AJ as he can easily put you on a flush draw or nut flush draw when you b/3b

    as played it looks to me that raising the turn folds most worse hands and all better hands continue. Call, and pretty much call any river except maybe a non-spade K. If he checks river, probably check behind (not sure as you may still get some value from an A if you bet small).

    For your range, yes 66 and 33 are there, but I doubt A6s. Lots of aces+good kicker though.
    Last edited by daviddem; 03-23-2013 at 12:14 PM.
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    I know it's only 40 hands, but your image (esp. ATS) and his fold to steal numbers are relevant.
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    if i were hero i'd be calling turn and folding to any serious action on non-spade/3/A rivers. can't see villain going for three streets w/just a top a pair good kicker type hand on most rivers. but i can still see him having AQ and maybe AK if he doesn't 3b it pre at this point in the hand
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    I'd like to take back what I said in my previous post: if he bets the river after you call the turn it's most likely a fold.

    Interested in what people think we should do when he checks a non spade/3 river to us though.
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