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  1. #1

    Default 25NL 6-Max 3 Folds

    Hi this is my first post here, just a little background info I deposited $200 in the beginning of January and played 10NL. My bankroll hit $500 about a week ago and I began taking shots at 25NL. Here are some hands from my session today.

    Hand #1

    Villain was running around 32/11/1.9 over a smallish sample size.

    Im kind of torn on the river because I think the majority of his range when he calls the turn are draws and Qx, and while all the draws missed the river I am now losing to all Qx hands. I don't know how often this type of player will bluff busted draws in this spot though.

    ***** Hand History for Game 25131246428 *****
    $25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, February 19, 06:18:01 ET 2009
    Table Pasithee III (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Seat 1: Vagabond777 ( $25.00 USD )
    Seat 2: I8Spurs_) ( $27.65 USD )
    Seat 3: Devahainn ( $33.00 USD )
    Seat 4: commonfears ( $15.00 USD )
    Seat 5: outperformer ( $60.05 USD )
    Seat 6: x_POKEMONS_x ( $25.10 USD )
    x_POKEMONS_x posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
    Vagabond777 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to x_POKEMONS_x [ Ac Ad ]
    I8Spurs_) folds
    Devahainn folds
    commonfears folds
    outperformer folds
    x_POKEMONS_x raises [$0.90 USD]
    Vagabond777 calls [$0.75 USD]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Qc, 6c, Jh ]
    x_POKEMONS_x bets [$1.40 USD]
    Vagabond777 calls [$1.40 USD]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
    x_POKEMONS_x bets [$4.00 USD]
    Vagabond777 calls [$4.00 USD]
    ** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
    x_POKEMONS_x checks
    Vagabond777 bets [$10.00 USD]
    x_POKEMONS_x folds
    Vagabond777 wins $12.20 USD from main pot
    Vagabond777 wins $10.00 USD from main pot


    Total pot: $12.80

    Hand #2

    Both me and SB have been playing quite loose-agressive.
    Looking back on this I kind of hate myself for folding this against this guy as I think he would take this line with flush/straight draws often and possibly even worse tens. Any opinions are welcome though.

    ***** Hand History for Game 24907975947 *****
    $25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, February 13, 06:38:30 ET 2009
    Table Montefiore V (Real Money)
    Seat 1 is the button
    Seat 1: moronStyle ( $25.00 USD )
    Seat 2: tnc101 ( $29.70 USD )
    Seat 3: x_POKEMONS_x ( $26.85 USD )
    Seat 4: StarBase ( $33.00 USD )
    Seat 5: tot272002 ( $19.25 USD )
    Seat 6: Ivtzata ( $23.60 USD )
    tnc101 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
    x_POKEMONS_x posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to x_POKEMONS_x [ Ts Ac ]
    StarBase folds
    tot272002 folds
    Ivtzata folds
    moronStyle folds
    tnc101 raises [$0.90 USD]
    x_POKEMONS_x calls [$0.75 USD]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Th, 9c ]
    tnc101 bets [$1.50 USD]
    x_POKEMONS_x raises [$4.75 USD]
    tnc101 raises [$10.50 USD]
    x_POKEMONS_x folds
    tnc101 wins $10.95 USD from main pot
    tnc101 wins $7.25 USD from main pot

    Hand #3

    I seem to have lost the hand history for this hand but it goes something like this:

    UTG+1 seems like a normal TAG. CO is a big donk.

    Preflop call may be a spew given the fact I'm out of position, but the main reason I called was because CO was a big donk and would stack off very light if I hit.

    I'm in the big blind with T9s
    MP raises to $0.85. CO calls. I call.

    Flop comes AK9 rainbow
    I check. MP checks. CO checks.

    Turn comes a 9 putting a flush draw on the board
    I lead for $2. MP raises to $5. CO folds. I call.

    Turn raise seems very wierd to me I basically felt his range was a slowplayed AA, KK, AK, air, or possibly AQ/AJ type hands.

    River is an 8 (doesn't complete the flush)
    I bet $5.50. MP raises to $15. I fold.

    I block bet the river, basically because I have no clue what to do, and he raises me. Is this ever anything besides AA/KK?
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    Welcome to the forum. Read the stickies and use the hand history converter. You will get more replies. Also don't include results (that you folded).

    Hand 1. Very very easy call.
    Hand 2. Don't raise flop if you don't want to get it in. If I play it like this I go all-in here.
  3. #3
    Hand one is a call. The only suggestion I would make is to bet more on the flop and possibly the turn, the size of the pot instead of less, so that any draw would be making a mistake in calling you. In most cases, when you have a made hand and suspect a draw, (Or you're cbetting on a drawy board) you should be betting the pot.

    Hand two, as said above, is another one you have to shove. I feel like 9T puts the vast majority of a SB steal range behind you. You have any Tx beat, any straight draw beat, and any heart draw beat, a punch of pocket pairs beat, and overs (though the reraise makes me think he's a bit stronger than any overs beside JQ) beat at the moment, though his flop 3bet range may be more narrow, I think I'd still put you ahead of most of it since you have a loose aggressive read. You don't have to be happy about it, but I think you have to get it in if you're going to raise on the flop. (And I think raising the flop is a good move, don't want to give him pot control with any kind of draw.) I hope that made sense, it's off the top of my head and I didn't check my math but it should be good.

    For hand 3, if you're right about his range, should have been a 3 bet on the turn, because he has a total of 6 combinations of hands that beat you, and tons that don't. I think it's a +EV move, and you get to find out exactly where you are. As played, it's a tough decision, I think I would have shipped it, but I don't blame you for folding. If I really thought I was behind though, I would have just checked and hoped for a check behind. The only hands that may call that which you're ahead of are AK or Ax. Better hands will reraise and force you to either stack off or fold. And to answer your question, I think the reraise could be AK, hoping you have Ax. Could also be someone lighter who put you on the busted draw, your line does kind of resemble it.

    I'd wait to take what I said seriously until someone more knowledgeable comes along to verify it. I'm half expecting the regulars to come and tell me I'm totally wrong and destroy the logic behind my posts.

    Welcome to the forum and I hope you enjoy your stay!
  4. #4
    Hnad 1 I call

    Hand 2. I dont like the call pre. Either 3 bet or fold ( I think 3 bet bvb). As played I prolly peel a card to see turn. If you raise, you need to put it in over his 4 bet.

    Hand 3 No prob with flatting this sometimes. If he has AA or KK, I prolly go broke here. Looks a lot like AK to me and he slow played it. Player dependent obv. But I just put the rest in and accept the cooler if he wins. Yes this can be other that AA and/or KK.

    Hnad 3
    NH, WP, GG, TY, Etc..........................
  5. #5
    1. Fuck him I call. There's enough missed drwas for this to be okay. Also $10 bet hmm...even numbers are bluffy (not that you should actually consider this) just more so than not in my expereicne.

    2. I think pre flop call is very okay b vs b. I wouldn't like to fold in position here unless he's a nit in the blinds. 3 betting i guess is okay but bloats the pot with a dominatable trouble hand and we force his range into mainly hands that have us in bad shape. So yeah I call pre and then calls flop in position I'll bet turn if checked to and call again should he bet and evaluate river.

    3. Meh people are bad at poker. This can easy be AA KK AK AQ even AJ at times these guys will over play hands. with trips I look him up for sure.
  6. #6
    Thanks for the replies guys:

    I agree raise/folding the flop is pretty bad in hand #2, and I 3betting preflop is probably a good idea too.

    However, in hand #3, I think 3betting the turn is a big mistake because all it accomplishes is give our opponent a chance to fold AQ/AJ hands and possibly even AK, and lets us get stacked by KK/AA.

    I also doubt he is raisinig the river with AQ/AJ here maybe AK. What do you guys think about check-calling the river?
  7. #7
    Hand 1: I very rarely fold Aces and won't start here.
    Hand 2: Don't fold TPTK on the flop SB vs BB with an aggressive dynamic.
    Hand 3: I would just get it in on the turn. Fail that, I'm check/calling the river. If I think he's a total nit, I would consider a turn fold.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Hand 1: I very rarely fold Aces and won't start here.
    Hand 2: Don't fold TPTK on the flop SB vs BB with an aggressive dynamic.
    Hand 3: I would just get it in on the turn. Fail that, I'm check/calling the river. If I think he's a total nit, I would consider a turn fold.
    Just a quick question but what hands do we expect him to show up with when we jam the turn?

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