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  1. #1

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    bet sizing on the river???

    24/5/40 is the villain, i feel like he is calling with better and folding worse on the river, but he probably would have called a smaller 20/30 cent bet, but i risk looking week and getting c/rai and facing a tough decision since the queen dropped.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($2.84)
    Hero (UTG) ($3.15)
    UTG+1 ($0.81)
    MP1 ($2)
    MP2 ($4.60)
    MP3 ($1.87)
    CO ($1.46)
    Button ($1.20)
    SB ($1.99)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K
    Hero bets $0.08, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.08, 4 folds, BB calls $0.06

    Flop: ($0.25) 10, 8, Q (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.26, MP2 calls $0.26, 1 fold

    Turn: ($0.77) Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40

    River: ($1.57) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.88, 1 fold

    Total pot: $1.57 | Rake: $0.05
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    i don't have the mp1 stats but the main villain is 20/5/47 over 109 hands.

    The board is so wet that i should just fold this river from now on right? i feel like this is trips so often even on dry boards, not to mention the str8s and flushes on this board i run into....

    in hindsight this sohuld have been a river fold

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($1.61)
    UTG+1 ($3.01)
    MP1 ($1.32)
    MP2 ($7.06)
    MP3 ($5.76)
    CO ($1.57)
    Button ($3.75)
    SB ($1.43)
    Hero (BB) ($1.93)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, K
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.02, 2 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

    Flop: ($0.10) J, 9, K (5 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.10, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.10, MP3 raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10

    Turn: ($0.70) 6 (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold

    River: ($1.50) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP3 bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

    Total pot: $3.10 | Rake: $0.15
  2. #2
    ship flop in hand 2
  3. #3
    does ship it mean push all in? or fold it
  4. #4
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    I don't like your play with kings, you should have made a really big bet since you have a made hand in the UTG +1 seat. I personnaly would have made it 20-25cents right off the bath and 50-75 cents push that drawing board on the flop. Don't be scared to play kings like they were kings in micro stakes, that 8 cents bets is just weird, u might fight 3-4s or j-9 you really dont know where you stand and u might get 6 calls. Push your kings hard and be scared only by the ace and a tight player re-raise. but if its not a tight player, go for it man, you got kings, burn it up.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by marijuanagaming
    I don't like your play with kings, you should have made a really big bet since you have a made hand in the UTG +1 seat. I personnaly would have made it 20-25cents right off the bath and 50-75 cents push that drawing board on the flop. Don't be scared to play kings like they were kings in micro stakes, that 8 cents bets is just weird, u might fight 3-4s or j-9 you really dont know where you stand and u might get 6 calls. Push your kings hard and be scared only by the ace and a tight player re-raise. but if its not a tight player, go for it man, you got kings, burn it up.
    lol, idk i havent seen that many times that after raising to 8 more than 2 people have called, and i want some action, i rarely will get a call at all raising to 25 cents and that wins me what? 3 cents??? sweet.....i want action, i will out flop weak aces most of the time, and i am crushing lower pp's

    i guess can someone who knows what they are talking about tell me if my preflop play is alright here?
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    Please stop talking. Preflop raise in H1 is standard and fine.
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  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by marijuanagaming
    I don't like your play with kings, you should have made a really big bet since you have a made hand in the UTG +1 seat. I personnaly would have made it 20-25cents right off the bath and 50-75 cents push that drawing board on the flop. Don't be scared to play kings like they were kings in micro stakes, that 8 cents bets is just weird, u might fight 3-4s or j-9 you really dont know where you stand and u might get 6 calls. Push your kings hard and be scared only by the ace and a tight player re-raise. but if its not a tight player, go for it man, you got kings, burn it up.
    I think we found part of the reason that you went from3$ to 150$ to busto. The only people who could really call your 20-25 cent pre are people with KK,AA .QQ you might get some action off but you're just folding out the worse hands and paying off the AA. ALso how are you playing 66 ? the same way? if not then your play is sooooooooo predictable that they'll see you bet big pre and fold.Why are you only scared of a tight player reraise. At 2NL the only reraise you'll see from a tight or loose player to this sized Pre bet is AA ,KK which means that you will probably lose money. KK to the rake, AA to the player unless you suck out
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    Im opedipus bitch, the original balla.
    I don't necessarily disagree with marijuana that raising larger with your premium hands at microstakes is bad, espeically 2nl/5nl. Since the majority of the player pool isn't paying enough attention to the game, and espeically not your range, to adjust accordingly. So raising more when your range is stronger is going to force villains to make more costly mistakes, when they inevitably call (which they most likely still will).

    I, however, think his example of raising to 10-12.5x PF is very excessive, and is probably not the optimal strategy.

    And I probably wouldn't even base my raise size off of my actual holding in this particular spot. I would rather base my raise size off of my range as a whole. That is, I would raise larger from EP since that's when my range is the strongest. And I would raise a smaller amount in late position, as that's when my range is the widest/weakest.
  9. #9
    i appreciate the advice stax/ others....any advice on hand 2?
  10. #10
    For H2, echo previous poster's comments...

    Re-Raise to $.60-$.70 and look to get it AI on the flop, you have top 2 pair on a wet board.

    Yes you will pay off sets sometimes, but you have 2 blockers (9K) and so much equity against TPTK, straight/flush draws, lower 2 pairs and even have a small bit of equity against the rare made straight.
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  11. #11
    Hand 1: Yeah, I don't get your river bet either.

    Hand 2: You're priced in and the flop action is so crazy with so much money behind I'm not happy getting it all in. We're kinda priced into seeing a turn and I'd dump it there.

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