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    Default 2+.2 Heads Up end game basic Question

    So I have 38% equity vs ATC. Thus my shove here has a negative EV of 3 tournament chips. So I should fold. Is this correct?

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    Hero (SB) (t2820)
    BB (t180)

    Hero's M: 37.60

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 2
    Hero bets t2820 (All-In), BB calls t130 (All-In)

    Flop: (t360) 9, Q, J (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Turn: (t360) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: (t360) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: t360

    Made a basic mistake. So pot 360 I have 38% equity thus I own 136 chips and i need to bet 130 to get them. So this is profitable move.
    Last edited by !Luck; 12-26-2010 at 04:31 AM.
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    How much fold equity do you have here? (opponent disconnect, timing out a lot, etc?)
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    Easy fold pre. You are way a head in stack size. There will be better spots to push. Why risk having him call and beating this hand and possibly doubling up a couple times to win the tournament? Happened to me and I have done it to somebody else a few times when I was way behind. Lol at least it wasn't 72o like in the WSOP heads up (don't remember who was playing but I remember that hand)
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    sorry http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ll-173396.html this applies here if hes calling ATC
    Last edited by Imthenewfish; 12-26-2010 at 04:49 AM.
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    Fun fact: Villain should call with a wider range than Hero should shove here.

    Additionally, shoving 72s is -EV.
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    Even just using SAGE, which you could use here, it's not quite any two time. You could shove J2o or 96o but not 72.
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    Can you show how to find the unexploitable plays by both players here?
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    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
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    It's the equations I am more interested into, I tried briefly but didn't get anywhere, have no time to look further into it now.
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    72 its an snap fold for me in any case. in the BB check, but any other position i fold it before it even gets to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddem View Post
    It's the equations I am more interested into, I tried briefly but didn't get anywhere, have no time to look further into it now.
    I'm pretty sure MoP has a section showing the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razvan729 View Post
    72 its an snap fold for me in any case. in the BB check, but any other position i fold it before it even gets to me.
    BB can actually call a shove with 72s here and it's fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    BB can actually call a shove with 72s here and it's fine.
    ok, i believe you, but explain why, we only dominate a unpaired 6high hand, everything else dominates us by far, isnt that a too long shot?
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    Let's say you are playing poker in Vegas. And all the sudden Bill gates walks by and drops 1 billion dollars onto the table. You have a 200 stack in front of you. This is 10 handed. Everyone goes all in, you have 72o do you call? Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razvan729 View Post
    ok, i believe you, but explain why, we only dominate a unpaired 6high hand, everything else dominates us by far, isnt that a too long shot?
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ll-173396.html

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