Originally Posted by Erpel
You'd only make an ass of yourself by not trying to answer - beginners forum is for people to learn and learning comes from going through these things yourself. We can correct your misunderstandings, but only if you make an effort.
Got it.
Btw, the hand is played pretty correctly, except the turn probably should be a fold. The turn is possibly more marginal than the above suggests - if he can bluff in this place with a draw of his own - say he has a KJ of his own. But at these stakes he probably ISN'T good enough to shove a draw here, which makes calling -EV. Shoving here can be correct even when calling a shove is not - because the one who gets to shove gets the fold equity. I would have been happy for you to shove the turn - if called you'll be behind, but you also fold out a lot of hands which makes the play as a whole plus EV - and if called you're not terribly off the breakeven mark, even if behind, due to all your outs.
Yeah, I kinda took note of that. Thanks for enforcing the Idea.
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