10nl underpair v shorstacker shove

OESD= open end straight draw

this more make sense to shove then KTo, KJo,A9o or other stuff you put in his range.

if you wanna make a range that gives you call, by all means you can assign even 72o in that range.... fishes or not, they are not that stupid to shove every time pure air on that board, sometimes they will,but not enough to count them in the range.... i dont see any good player calling here vs this guy w/o reads and a good sample on him.

you think his a moron cause he is 43/30 in 30 hands?! think numbers... 30%PFR*30 hands is 9 opening hands and 43% VPIP*30 hands is 13 hands....

so i sit at the table and i get EP an AK,one AJ and one AJs and i open, MP i get 2 times PP over 77 and i open, LP i get some Axs or some suited brodways and i open another 4 times, then i call 3 openings in LP or blinds with PP or good SC's and all of sudden i am 43/30 over 30 to you when acttually i am 13/10 over 5k hands but i just hit a good run on hands now.... wow villains said, he is a fish, fck him, calling him light and betting into him light is gonna make a lot of money, wow i have a fish... and all i did is play the hand i was dealt, good hands . lucky me...

you think him as a fish, but your making a mistake cause the sample is too small and you have no reads ( gave none here)


33% pot odds and 29% equity... how can you say it's close when you always loose money here?dont say for balance or any other crap, cause that means shit at the micros.. balance yourself after 50nl

1. I wasn't asking what OESD stood for, I was mentioning that there are no possible OESD's on board.

2. We may have a very small sample, but the biggest indication this player is a fish is his stack size. Put a stack less then half with his pf stats and we have a fish like 95% of the time.

3. Your comment " they are not that stupid to shove every time pure air on that board, sometimes they will,but not enough to count them in the range...." makes little sense to me. Because of above reasoning we can be pretty sure he's a fish. He may only bet his air a small % of the time, but if he bets a large number of hands a small % of the time it can make up a significant portion of the time it can make up a large part of his range. His low fold to c bet number indicates alot of his range on the turn can be air, and if he bets those hands some of the time an accurate range must be weighted by adding an appropriate portion, of the air in his flop calling range to his turn shoving range. These added combos will give us the additional equity we need.

Originally Posted by Razvan729

OESD= open end straight draw

this more make sense to shove then KTo, KJo,A9o or other stuff you put in his range.

if you wanna make a range that gives you call, by all means you can assign even 72o in that range.... fishes or not, they are not that stupid to shove every time pure air on that board, sometimes they will,but not enough to count them in the range.... i dont see any good player calling here vs this guy w/o reads and a good sample on him.

you think his a moron cause he is 43/30 in 30 hands?! think numbers... 30%PFR*30 hands is 9 opening hands and 43% VPIP*30 hands is 13 hands....

so i sit at the table and i get EP an AK,one AJ and one AJs and i open, MP i get 2 times PP over 77 and i open, LP i get some Axs or some suited brodways and i open another 4 times, then i call 3 openings in LP or blinds with PP or good SC's and all of sudden i am 43/30 over 30 to you when acttually i am 13/10 over 5k hands but i just hit a good run on hands now.... wow villains said, he is a fish, fck him, calling him light and betting into him light is gonna make a lot of money, wow i have a fish... and all i did is play the hand i was dealt, good hands . lucky me...

you think him as a fish, but your making a mistake cause the sample is too small and you have no reads ( gave none here)


33% pot odds and 29% equity... how can you say it's close when you always loose money here?dont say for balance or any other crap, cause that means shit at the micros.. balance yourself after 50nl