10NL, small pair oop on low drawy board

[couriermike]

Here's what I'm thinking with the 'take it down' bet.

You have a weak made hand, some sdv, but you think you'll never make it to showdown (this is important) because you're oop and villain is aggro or whatever. So you bet (or raise) now to take it down. Your bet is not a value bet or a bluff because villain only folds worse and never folds better, say.

Don't you think there is some value in betting here to avoid reverse implied odds, to avoid getting bluffed etc, as long as he folds enough worse hands to make the bet +EV (ie you bet X to win Y and he folds at least X/(X+Y) of his range)?

In this hand, if I don't make a move on the flop, then I'm just giving up. Of course I'm never bluff-catching multiple streets with 66. I think giving up is OK but probably not as good as stabbing. Plus giving up seems like a shame because we are often good here, even though we're too weak to continue oop. Does that make sense?

On a completely different note...
How do you interpret villain's line?
Would you ever call the river?

[Imthenewfish]

Of course I'm never bluff-catching multiple streets with 66.

sounds like a common leak that makes me teh monies

[couriermike]

sounds like a common leak that makes me teh monies

Do you like calling the river here? I finally tanked and folded. I think the bluff-catch makes more sense if I had donked or c/c'ed the flop and the rest of the hand played out the same.

Do y'all agree...
donking > c/r'ing otf?
betting > checking ott after c/r'ing flop?
folding > calling otr as played?