10NL, rate the bluff

Originally Posted by cleanup.that

His hand has a lot of equity against a standard UTG range from a 22/17. We are in POSITION, and the pot is multi-way.

Also the fact that it is multi-way will often help you get credit on post bluffs/semibluffs that you decide to run. As long as we are not playing too fit-or-fold post flop, this call should be profitable for most players.

Disagree with your first paragraph. Sure it's a call if he's not positionally aware but if he is then his range is too tight and calling is a leak for like 95% of 10NLers. In theory, our range should be tighter than UTG. This includes small PP which should be the only hands we use as implied odds hands. Position is great but doesn't mean as much when UTG's range is really tight and our hand doesn't really have implied odds plus the fact of RIO.

The multi-way part is meh. Again, it depends on the cold caller.

And I would much rather have KJs than 54s here I admit that.

OP - you should not be playing 54s this way.

Originally Posted by kmind

Disagree with your first paragraph. Sure it's a call if he's not positionally aware but if he is then his range is too tight and calling is a leak for like 95% of 10NLers. In theory, our range should be tighter than UTG. This includes small PP which should be the only hands we use as implied odds hands. Position is great but doesn't mean as much when UTG's range is really tight and our hand doesn't really have implied odds plus the fact of RIO.

The multi-way part is meh. Again, it depends on the cold caller.

And I would much rather have KJs than 54s here I admit that.

OP - you should not be playing 54s this way.

This is like 12% UTG, which is probably pretty close to his range.


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.698% 56.18% 01.52% 142375658 3842866.50 { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 42.302% 40.79% 01.52% 103359601 3842866.50 { KhJh }

So we have 42% equity, 100bbs stacks and position. Domination is not that big of an issue since this is cash and we have relatively deep stacks compared to most tourney situations. It's not like we are going go crazy and get all in every time we flop top pair right?

As long as we are confident in our post flop abilities we will be able to profitably play here. For players who are just learning or struggling though, calling will probably be a leak.