Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
In theory the turn bet might not be bad because his calling range might very well be > his betting range. I don't do it because it confuses the villain and in turn he might do something that confuses you.

Solid reasoning itt ino!

Only time I would consider it is if villain religiously stop and goes as pfr.

Main reason why I don't like the line is because it sucks donkey dick as a bluff because of the lack of threat compared to a c/r on the flop which is cheaper and more dangerous because you can make him play for stacks.
Most regs realize this in some way and their c/c, donk range is entirely for value. Only time you see it as a bluff is by obvious beginning players.
Now ino... lol-balance at lol-NL, but I don't like to take completely unbalanced lines in any spot against semi-regs because if your opponent has half a brain he can exploit that massively and who knows when you will figure that out and re-adjust.

As played I puke/fold river.

interesting. so is this to say we should mix up our OOP bluff lines more between c/c flop,donk turn and c/r flop? or is it that check/call, donk line just sucks straight up and should only be used against fish who will never realise that we only ever do this for value? or, equally as plausible, i completely misunderstood your post.