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    Default 10NL KK - You just have to laugh

    OMG, PStars is SO rigged! I can't play against donkeys! <insert every other complaint that you can in here - and yes, it's sarcasm>

    This hand earlier today made me laugh SO hard - I couldn't see straight. I don't know whether this guy was just trying to tick me off or what. I just grinned, reloaded and set to takin' it all back - too bad another good player beat me to it - well with calls like this - it didn't take long. So - no comments needed I believe - just sit back and enjoy.

    PS. play a game. STOP don't look at the white - guess what I was reraised with twice. Post your response and then see if you were right

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Converter Tool from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    MP1 ($5.95)
    Villain ($7.32)
    MP3 ($4.11)
    CO ($3.06)
    Button ($3.25)
    SB ($9.81)
    BB ($3.38)
    UTG ($6.82)
    Hero ($9.93)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Kh, Kc.
    UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.2, 1 fold, Villain raises to $0.35, 4 folds, BB calls $0.30, UTG folds, Hero raises to $2, Villain raises to $3.75, BB folds, Hero raises to $11.73, Villain calls $3.57 (All-In).

    Flop: ($15.06) Ac, Qs, 3c (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Turn: ($15.06) 4s (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($15.06) 8s (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $15.06

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Kh Kc (one pair, kings).
    Villain has Qd 4h (two pair, queens and fours).
    Outcome: Villain wins $15.06.
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    standard. pre-emptive {moved to Bad Beats}
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    I know that this post (and many similar posts) are made in good fun, but when you draw attention to things like this you're getting in a lot of bad mental habits. It's better to just grin and keep playing, likely forgetting about it in the next 90 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
    I know that this post (and many similar posts) are made in good fun, but when you draw attention to things like this you're getting in a lot of bad mental habits. It's better to just grin and keep playing, likely forgetting about it in the next 90 seconds.
    your sig makes me assume that you are an mma fan. Did you hear about chuck moving up to heavy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
    I know that this post (and many similar posts) are made in good fun, but when you draw attention to things like this you're getting in a lot of bad mental habits. It's better to just grin and keep playing, likely forgetting about it in the next 90 seconds.
    So true. It's hard to do when a string of bad beats happens or when you're running bad but it's going to be a much longer road to the top if we don't just move the fuck on.

    If I can't forget about it within a few hands, I'm taking a break for however long I need. I will click the "sit out" button and go grab myself a Coke and a smile. By the time the BB comes back to me, I'm ready to get back to my session.
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    You could tell this was a bad beat by the title...

    That said, if you're laughing, that's a good sign.
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    not to change subjects; villian played this like pocket A's. did that thought cross your mind at all? i only ask because it's happened to me twice with K's and it's a tough lay down ( i wouldn't) considering it does not happen often. i once had 67o crack my AA @ the same stakes. s@3% happens, take care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by varena
    not to change subjects; villian played this like pocket A's. did that thought cross your mind at all? i only ask because it's happened to me twice with K's and it's a tough lay down ( i wouldn't) considering it does not happen often. i once had 67o crack my AA @ the same stakes. s@3% happens, take care.
    There's 168 hands other than AA, and I bet I've had AA cracked by every one of them. Most of the FTR regulars have had them cracked by every hand 2 or 3 times. Play a few hundred thousand hands and this stuff doesn't make anything at all cross your mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dev
    Quote Originally Posted by varena
    not to change subjects; villian played this like pocket A's. did that thought cross your mind at all? i only ask because it's happened to me twice with K's and it's a tough lay down ( i wouldn't) considering it does not happen often. i once had 67o crack my AA @ the same stakes. s@3% happens, take care.
    There's 168 hands other than AA, and I bet I've had AA cracked by every one of them. Most of the FTR regulars have had them cracked by every hand 2 or 3 times. Play a few hundred thousand hands and this stuff doesn't make anything at all cross your mind.
    sorry, i have no idea what your point is?
    just asked OP if he thought villian might have had A's (during the 3bet) the way it was being played.
    BTW: fwiw, I've played thousands of hands (not 100k) and I gave the A's example because OP had stated how PS is rigged. lost count on how many times my pocket rockets have been cracked.
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    Default 10NL KK - You just have to laugh

    Spoon is absolutely right, it's imperative to forget about it and move on - and that's exactly what I did - right after I noted the play so I could follow the guy. The whole reason I posted this was to let others see how to let it roll of your back.

    You're so right about the mentality of the game. One thing I've learned in the 9 mos. I've been playing is that if you are having fun and loose (mentally, not playwise) you can make better decisions and play better in general. You stop worrying about things that don't matter - what if I lose a buy-in, what if I look like an idiot, what if whatever. You play your game and learn - and learning is definitely +EV, right? Tilting is one thing, but if you are stressed and worried - you'll suck just as bad. Let crap like this go - or do what I did - have some fun with it.

    The whole reason I made my sarcastic intro'd post was just to illustrate practically what the mentor's here on FTR are telling us in their RANTs. - how to handle when a dumb person takes your stack. Please don't think I was just posting a bad beat just to post one - they happen all the time - that's the game. I got my entire stack in with an 88% chance to win the hand - I'll take that every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

    As per the question about the play - no, i never suspected he had aces. Even the dumbest of dumb players should have shoved all-in after my 4-bet. His 3-bet and 5-bet were both min-raises. I did think he had a pair, and I was pretty sure after the flop I was dead with a set of queens or Ax. The minraises just made me think he was being an idiot - and I'd watched a few of his hands previously and knew he was playing junk.
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    Default Re: 10NL KK - You just have to laugh

    Quote Originally Posted by pilotpa23
    Spoon is absolutely right, it's imperative to forget about it and move on - and that's exactly what I did - right after I noted the play so I could follow the guy. The whole reason I posted this was to let others see how to let it roll of your back.

    You're so right about the mentality of the game. One thing I've learned in the 9 mos. I've been playing is that if you are having fun and loose (mentally, not playwise) you can make better decisions and play better in general. You stop worrying about things that don't matter - what if I lose a buy-in, what if I look like an idiot, what if whatever. You play your game and learn - and learning is definitely +EV, right? Tilting is one thing, but if you are stressed and worried - you'll suck just as bad. Let crap like this go - or do what I did - have some fun with it.

    The whole reason I made my sarcastic intro'd post was just to illustrate practically what the mentor's here on FTR are telling us in their RANTs. - how to handle when a dumb person takes your stack. Please don't think I was just posting a bad beat just to post one - they happen all the time - that's the game. I got my entire stack in with an 88% chance to win the hand - I'll take that every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

    As per the question about the play - no, i never suspected he had aces. Even the dumbest of dumb players should have shoved all-in after my 4-bet. His 3-bet and 5-bet were both min-raises. I did think he had a pair, and I was pretty sure after the flop I was dead with a set of queens or Ax. The minraises just made me think he was being an idiot - and I'd watched a few of his hands previously and knew he was playing junk.
    Once you get better at being more objective about things in poker, you'll notice that you start becoming similarly objective about other things in your life and stop worrying about things that really don't matter -- like someone pulling out in front of you in traffic, for example. You simply avoid the collision and continue instead of having an emotional response that temporarily distracts some of your senses. That momentary distraction can only be -EV, and much is the same in poker.
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    Default Re: 10NL KK - You just have to laugh

    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
    Once you get better at being more objective about things in poker, you'll notice that you start becoming similarly objective about other things in your life and stop worrying about things that really don't matter -- like someone pulling out in front of you in traffic, for example. You simply avoid the collision and continue instead of having an emotional response that temporarily distracts some of your senses. That momentary distraction can only be -EV, and much is the same in poker.
    Gold.

    I tried to explain this to someone the other day... it's kind of impossible without poker vocabulary.
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    Default Re: 10NL KK - You just have to laugh

    thanks for the response.
    i was not critizing your play, just picking your brain on the thought process.
    i thought by giving u one of my A's experience, it might of make u feel better.

    cheers!

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