flatting pre is easily the best option.
1. MP's range is obviously tight, given that we are fairly tight and that he is raising our UTG+1 range from MP. therefore his range is likely QQ+/AK.
2. Given the fact he may even be 3b folding QQ/AK and we have KK. It seems kind of stupid to then 4b KK given his likely continuing range is KK+. I'm not saying he is 100% 3b folding QQ/AK obv coz we dont have any significant reads. If we know that MP is felting QQ+AK in this spot then it's much better/easier to 4b (if it's you vs him, but still other factors to take into consideration when it's you, him and other villains.)
3. Given MP3 is a likley fish and his range is pretty wide including lots of PP's and broadway hands, then it's obviously more +$$ to flat pre. as he may stack of 77 post flop on a 224 board but might not stack off pre when we 4b and mp shoves or something and equally the same with say KT might not felt pre but would on a T72 board.
4. 4b sizing if you do 4b is important and making it $4 is totally retarded for many reasons.
a) how often do you make it $4 with any bluffs in your range?
b) how expensive are you making it for yourself in terms of bb if you are ever bluffing?
c) when MP jams over $4, do you ever expect him to be reblufing?
e) when mp jams over with AA does he ever expect you to fold anything that you 4b to $4 with?
obviously, in a UTG+1 vs MP spot, there are going to be few if any bluffs ever here, but we need to balance our 4b sizing so that we can bluff both 3b/4b bluffs in other spots say CO vs BU or BvB.
5. It still would be dumb onga if they both shoved over, becuase they would never be showing any bluffs ever - therefore they were both calling a shove or reshoving if you made it 2.8 or similar. it may actually increase the frequency that both or one of these guys shows up with something weaker than KK if you did actually 4b to something small.
6. you are not maximising the value at all onga. you are actually decreasing the value. given that a slimmer range will call the shove/reshove when you make your 4b sizing so big. If you make it smaller you may induce other hands to reship, ones that would fold to the retarded 4b size, equally you may get some hands to call the 4b that otherwise would have folded as it looks like they are getting good odds and they may make even bigger dumb mistakes post flop.
I'm not a very good writer so some of my points might be jumbled.
Basically you can make both villains make more mistakes vs your specific hand here post flop if you just call, MP1 to the greatest extent, MP2 to a lesser extent.
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