Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Quote Originally Posted by revolvingiris
All of these apply in every position minus #1. Which is why I said its easy to fold post flop if you miss. I think with the ranges I put everyone on hero was around 16% equity to win pf. How much does hero have to win to make this play break even/profitable? $2/$3?
The times you don't get to see all 5 board cards make your equity preflop much less relevant. A similar example would be AK v QQ that sees a flop. We might be close to a flip, but we don't get to see the turn/river often enough for it to matter so much.
So how are we supposed to look at things preflop? The texture of our holdings on the flop is a key factor for me when I choose to go with a hand or not (obv there are others).

But take the op HH for example. If hero is at 16% equity and his CC places 1.50 in the pot. Hero has to bet 1/3 pot and get called to make his pf CC profitable in the long run. With 3 players to act after, its likely he will get this call.

If I understand the quoted post above. Equity shouldn't be taken into consideration as much as position and likelihood of our hand improving on the flop. But to me the issue is that we don't know if the flop will hit us or not. Sure, there are hands that are more likely to improve than others but its still not certain. So why does equity take a back seat pf to a higher suited connector just because it can "flop more"?
--On a side note: It seems like folding certain hands in certain positions due to our likelihood of improvement seems kind of nitty when your implied odds are telling you the play is correct.

I was always told make the best decision on that specific street at that specific moment (yes other streets can influence this choice). If things change along the way to the river, change gears and act accordingly.