Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Let's talk about how much calling with 43s here sucks pre-flop.

We're out of position against a bunch of guys. That sucks.

We flop a flush the same amount of time as with any other two suited cards, but we can never flush over flush someone. That sucks.

If you had 87s, how many flops are straights for you? JT9, T96, T65, 654. If you have 43s, how many flops are straights for you? 765, 652, 52A. We are flopping a straight 25% less often. That sucks.

The other real killer here is that we flop an OESD much less often but I don't feel like listing out all of the flops. That sucks.
All of these apply in every position minus #1. Which is why I said its easy to fold post flop if you miss. I think with the ranges I put everyone on hero was around 16% equity to win pf. How much does hero have to win to make this play break even/profitable? $2/$3?