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Originally Posted by aokrongly

Originally Posted by mcatdog

If you fold good one pair hands every time there's a bet and a raise on the flop, you're just transforming yourself from one type of fish into another.

I disagree. I think that it will work with aggressors as well as fish. It's just that 35% tables (which is how I label the type of play you're talking about) require a different strategy. However, the same 80/20 rule will apply only this time you're using the aggressor's weight against himself. But you'll be doing it with the top 20% and the aggressor will be losing to the top 20%.

Unless the aggressor sucks, you won't make enough money off your nut hands to make up for all the times you fold the best hand to him. If you're folding to a bet and a raise unless you have 2 pair or better, then when you don't fold, he'll know you have a huge hand and won't put any more money in unless he has one too.

I do agree that there are different ways this rule manifests itself. And maybe I haven't played a purely aggressive game enough to see myself make 80% of my money off bluffs. But I find it highly unusual. If that's the case with you, then you have absolutely cracked the case on how to let pots grow and then steal them. For that to be the case it would have to break both AOK's Highly Contested Pot Rule and the 80/20 rule. (and since i've never been wrong TWICE, that's impossible.)

Well first of all, I definitely haven't mastered the aggressive style. I'm trying to get better at it, but I'm not there yet. I've played against this type of player though and I think they can be really hard to play against. Second, I don't think anyone makes 80% of all their money off bluffs. But, there are opponents against whom that'll be true. For example, if you're playing heads-up against someone who folds too much, you'll make most of your money off bluffs.