~4nl TT in CO facing Flop Ra'~

Originally Posted by WeldPhaser

clear b/f

vs villain as described and oop then this for sure
he just doesn't have 88/KJo often enough here...

think about what your plan would be and why on various turn cards if you were to call = this should make calling seem even less desirable.
even if flush draws comprise some of his raising range, what does this mean for you in this spot?

Originally Posted by daven

even if flush draws comprise some of his raising range, what does this mean for you in this spot?

nice point.

i was well-served when spoonitnow told me in coaching sessions a while ago to investigate the effects of adding >8 out draws to a raising range which is otherwise largely "value hands" (ie seldom if ever containing "pure" bluffs). i think it's a good idea to look into what daven is getting at here

Originally Posted by daven

vs villain as described and oop then this for sure
he just doesn't have 88/KJo often enough here...

think about what your plan would be and why on various turn cards if you were to call = this should make calling seem even less desirable.
even if flush draws comprise some of his raising range, what does this mean for you in this spot?

Exactly, i'm glad you put it that way. only clear cut card is our two outer , and def not enough to warrant a call...