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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    Nice article. I think the main points (from the examples) can be said in a more simplistic way 'bluff more if he's tighter postflop, value bet more if he's a loose caller'.
    This is more simplistic, but it looses a lot of the point which is to think about all of your range instead of just one part of it (ie: continuation betting). If your opponent is "tighter post-flop," then you shouldn't just bluff more, you should also value bet less. If you think about it in terms of the strength of your range, it's includes both of these changes. As we start to expand and look at continuation betting in terms of more than two ranges (taking into account future streets), then the more simplistic view you gave will not carry over as well.
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    As usual everything described is really quite obvious, the difficulty is actually being able to recognise and do it.
    But the spoonitnow is in the detail:

    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    This is more simplistic, but it looses a lot of the point which is to think about all of your range instead of just one part of it (ie: continuation betting). If your opponent is "tighter post-flop," then you shouldn't just bluff more, you should also value bet less. If you think about it in terms of the strength of your range, it's includes both of these changes. As we start to expand and look at continuation betting in terms of more than two ranges (taking into account future streets), then the more simplistic view you gave will not carry over as well.
    pointing out not just the obvious, but both sides of it.


    Another great guide, thanks again spoonit.
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    Some questions:

    Could you expand on how you would go about structuring your range in these spots, with particular attention to draws?

    As per you Ex. #1, we open with {88+,A2s+,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,98s,87s,AJo+,KQo}, the 36/14 calls OTB, and the Flop is QsTs6c.

    On this board we have:
    * 33/164 combos of TP/TK, O.Pairs, 2Pairs and Sets.
    * 57/164 combos of junk or weak draws

    leaving:
    * 74/164 combos of weak made hands and medium-to-strong draws

    So to have a strong betting range, are we just looking at TP/TK, O.Pairs, 2Pairs and Sets? Or is this too strong versus such a passive Opponent?

    What about the rest of our range here? Are we check/calling the good draws and check/folding the rest?
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