This is a continuation (lol) of last week's discussion about continuation betting ranges.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/blogs/t...-betting-17512
Discuss.
06-05-2013 04:32 PM
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[spoonitnow strategy] Thinking About Your Ranges When Continuation BettingThis is a continuation (lol) of last week's discussion about continuation betting ranges. | |
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06-05-2013 06:49 PM
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Fantastic. I got a little epiphany after that o.o | |
06-05-2013 07:38 PM
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06-06-2013 11:04 AM
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This is more simplistic, but it looses a lot of the point which is to think about all of your range instead of just one part of it (ie: continuation betting). If your opponent is "tighter post-flop," then you shouldn't just bluff more, you should also value bet less. If you think about it in terms of the strength of your range, it's includes both of these changes. As we start to expand and look at continuation betting in terms of more than two ranges (taking into account future streets), then the more simplistic view you gave will not carry over as well. | |
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06-06-2013 11:25 AM
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Agreed. This is a much higher level and comprehensive theoretical explanation of continuation betting, which encompasses the things I said, which is as far as I remember the way I learned it from FTR when I started playing poker, which is why I mentioned it. Looking forward to more articles. | |
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06-06-2013 02:48 PM
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06-06-2013 03:02 PM
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Nice article spoon. | |
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06-06-2013 03:21 PM
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Supplemental Information | |
Last edited by spoonitnow; 06-07-2013 at 01:40 PM. | |
06-07-2013 08:16 AM
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I get what you are saying but my problem is i don't use any software to see my opponents tendencies online (lol i am old school i can here the laughs not joking ) are there any good programs you can recommend ? | |
06-07-2013 11:54 AM
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Nothing I've talked about has anything to do with using software. There are other ways to get reads and to figure out how your opponents are playing. With that having been said, you're at a huge disadvantage without it. PokerTracker and Hold'em Manager are the two big poker software programs out right now. Use the search function and figure out which one you want. | |
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06-08-2013 08:13 PM
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Thanks spoonitnow i have heard of those two ! | |
06-10-2013 03:22 AM
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Nothing incredibly special here. Ive been looking at this from a microscopic level forever, and neglected to see the macroscopic one. After reading this article, the concept just clicked. | |
06-22-2013 02:35 AM
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Villain is positionally aware. | |
06-22-2013 02:54 AM
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Here's another spot, with the same villain as above. | |
06-22-2013 04:48 AM
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As usual everything described is really quite obvious, the difficulty is actually being able to recognise and do it. | |
06-30-2013 11:50 AM
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[OK - late for class...sorry Teach] | |
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06-30-2013 06:51 PM
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I'm of the opinion that medium-to-strong draws are much more like TP+ than they are like weak made hands. Along similar lines, weak made hands are more like junk/weak draws than they are like medium-to-strong draws. Hope that helps. | |
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07-01-2013 02:28 PM
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Kinda | |
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07-01-2013 06:33 PM
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07-01-2013 07:23 PM
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07-02-2013 11:14 AM
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he'll likely call again | |
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07-02-2013 11:14 AM
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Last edited by DoubleJ; 07-02-2013 at 12:23 PM.
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07-02-2013 12:36 PM
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The reason you're meant to value bet constantly and not slowplay hands is because most people at microstakes are fish and far too loose passive. |
Last edited by Savy; 07-02-2013 at 12:41 PM. | |
07-02-2013 12:56 PM
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07-02-2013 01:42 PM
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Slow playing in general is extremely good under a particular set of circumstances. Reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_play_%28poker%29 for Sklansky's treatment from Theory of Poker. | |
Last edited by spoonitnow; 07-02-2013 at 01:45 PM. | |
07-02-2013 02:02 PM
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super-cool little doggies | |
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07-02-2013 03:12 PM
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With semi-bluffs early in the hand (ie: the flop), you need very, very little fold equity to be making a ton of money, and this is especially true if your implied odds are huge (eg: if they are not often folding when you hit). | |
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07-02-2013 06:06 PM
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We definitely won't be ABC valuebetting every time we hit. If we know villain is weak, or has a tendency to bluff when you show weakness, time to mix in slowplays. Against people who are observant, we want to strengthen our checking range, so that we can't be read so easily. Remember that it is very easy to play against someone who will indiscrimately value bet every time. Tight aggressive people tend to play like this. | |
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07-02-2013 08:44 PM
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trolling freetrollers
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07-03-2013 06:44 AM
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Suppose we're check/raising with a weak range against someone with a high c-bet percentage. To adjust, they will need to be folding less often. There are three ways they can achieve this: | |
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