At the risk of derailing this thread (feel free to move the conversation to its own thread if you see fit):

Even out of position I would be looking for value on the turn with this hand or with AT for that matter.

I might be dense, but pot control doesn't make much sense to me. Unless the size of the pot changes the way villain plays the hand in an unfavorable way (he doesn't call enough to give us 50%+ equity, he bluffs the river more, etc), I don't see why we should be tailoring the size of the pot to our absolute hand strength. The concept of, "You have TPNK, thus the pot should get no bigger than {so-and-so}" doesn't seem terribly useful to me. If villain calls with many worse hands than TPNK, then the relative strength of our hand seems to justify a value bet.