Quote Originally Posted by eugmac View Post
Sorry I'm writing one-line posts as my thoughts come in small bursts lol.

Weak passive fish with a tight PFR range gets 3bet for value, so what would a reasonable value 3bet range be?

UTG fishy 4% might look something like {JJ+, AJs+, AQo+}

That means SB can't 3bet him for value with AQ, as UTG's range would have AQ crushed. If he perceives UTG's range the way we do, a reasonable value 3bet range woudl be more like {QQ+,AK}

But his hand sample size is pretty small, so it's possible that UTG's PFR is a bit wider. Let's also consider that he might do it with {99+,ATs+,KJs+,AJo+,KQo}, which is 8%. Now a good value 3bet range vs him would be {JJ+,AQ+}. edit: this was assuming he's gonna basically continue with 100% of his opening range. If he folds AT and KQ to the 3bet this is spew to include AQ in his value 3b range.

Anyway assuming SB villain realizes that it's spew to 3bet for value here with AJo it makes me want to actually fold here PF, or do the pot odds and our position dictate that we should definitely call?
I hadn't considered how SB might perceive UTG's raising range, that actually changes things a lot and prob makes it even easier to fold this turn.

I still don't think I can fold pre though, 3/1 on my money and I have position, still an easy call I think.