Select Page
Poker Forum
Over 1,292,000 Posts!
Poker ForumBeginners Circle

[5NL] 77 flop an overpair in 4 way pot. What to do?

Results 1 to 30 of 30

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    MadMojoMonkey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    10,456
    Location
    St Louis, MO
    OK, that seems a bit more sensible. Personally, I'd prefer to play more Kxs and fewer OS1G, but I don't think that's too major a deal. Those straights you're mining will be more concealed and nutted than K-high flushes, anyway. I think you can safely add { 64s,53s } if you're comfortable with { 75s,54s } in your range.

    OTF, you have 382 combos
    A) 35 combos -> 9.2% (was ~2.5%)
    B) 12 combos -> 3.1% (was ~0.5%)
    C) 79 combos -> 20.7% (was ~15%)
    D) 256 combos -> 67.0%

    This range is much stronger... not just on this board but on most boards.

    The question now is what to do with those ranges. As always, we need to know Villains' tendencies to move forward with that.

    MP, the pre-flop aggressor, has a 91% C-bet stat. So it's hugely likely that he will barrel quite loose.
    CO folds to most C-bets, so I expect a fold, maybe a call. A raise probably means overpair+.
    SB has already checked, so probably doesn't like his hand too much, and the note says passive, so I expect a c/f or a c/c. IF SB calls, I have to put him on a strong range, and the strength of 77 against his continuing range is probably very weak.

    It strikes me that if you check, MP bets almost all the time. So you get to see what CO and SB do without risking your own chips.

    Given these data, what portions of your range fall into the b/f and c/r categories?
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by eugmac View Post
    Please stop playing so much shit oop multiways, basically, especially when villians have narrowed their range to the stronger end by raising or calling raises. How many combos is your D range right now that you're check/folding? What kind of flop are you hoping for, for example, with J5o?
    Quote Originally Posted by eugmac View Post
    Your odds of flopping 2P+ are like 3%, and often you'll be in reverse implied odds situations when you do flop your hand, so i think this is really bad. You see situations like this all the time live, by the way.
    ^^^ This.

    If I had passive notes against villain, and he went big on that flop... Imma fold to the 45 _ straight. Hey, he was just protecting his blind.

    Range, shmange

    -
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    OK, that seems a bit more sensible. Personally, I'd prefer to play more Kxs and fewer OS1G, but I don't think that's too major a deal. Those straights you're mining will be more concealed and nutted than K-high flushes, anyway. I think you can safely add { 64s,53s } if you're comfortable with { 75s,54s } in your range.

    OTF, you have 382 combos
    A) 35 combos -> 9.2% (was ~2.5%)
    B) 12 combos -> 3.1% (was ~0.5%)
    C) 79 combos -> 20.7% (was ~15%)
    D) 256 combos -> 67.0%

    This range is much stronger... not just on this board but on most boards.

    The question now is what to do with those ranges. As always, we need to know Villains' tendencies to move forward with that.

    MP, the pre-flop aggressor, has a 91% C-bet stat. So it's hugely likely that he will barrel quite loose.
    CO folds to most C-bets, so I expect a fold, maybe a call. A raise probably means overpair+.
    SB has already checked, so probably doesn't like his hand too much, and the note says passive, so I expect a c/f or a c/c. IF SB calls, I have to put him on a strong range, and the strength of 77 against his continuing range is probably very weak.

    It strikes me that if you check, MP bets almost all the time. So you get to see what CO and SB do without risking your own chips.

    Given these data, what portions of your range fall into the b/f and c/r categories?
    I think I bet fold all of my B and C range. Not sure if I would c/r on this board, but if I did, I think it would be with the nuts.
    Currently grinding live cash games. Life is good.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •