[2NL] KQs hand analysis

Villain (CO) is 67/24 over 77 hands. He's quite fond of limping in with crap before calling raises, but has raised 4/5BB pre-flop with JTs, ATs and AJo previously. A c-bet usually takes the pot when he's limped.

MP+1 is a bit of a loose cannon at 36/3 over 107 hands. Usually limps/calls, but has been observed 3betting crazy amounts PF (28BB) with 33, while only C/C with AQo. I don't think there's much method in his play.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars

CO ($2.77)
Hero (Button) ($2.77)
SB ($1.60)
BB ($1.82)
UTG ($1.24)
UTG+1 ($1.30)
MP1 ($2.16)
MP2 ($4.17)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ks, Qs
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.08, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.06, CO calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.27) Qd, 4c, 6h (3 players)
MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.12, 1 fold, CO calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.51) 7s (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.20, CO raises to $2.57 (All-In)

On the flop, I probably should have bet more; I usually make a point of a standard 2/3 amount. I'm not sure why I settled for less this time.

From his check on the flop, I would put villain's range at something like low-mid pocket pairs that didn't hit, weak Ax,Kx, Qx and perhaps a few things like 89, T9. His calling range I think would include Ax,Kx,Qx, possibly Jx and maybe some mid-PP.

The turn c/r points to 77, substantiated by the fact that he raises the exact amount I have left in my stack.


Now that I've written this post out and thought about it, the recommended action (folding) seems quite obvious and not exactly the more difficult decision it had felt like while playing (I didn't notice his raise matching my stack at the time - d'oh).

Still, it'd be good to get some thoughts on my analysis and ranges.

Thanks.

He's a typical loose/passive from your description, so you can be sure that he will typically be raising post-flop with fairly strong ranges. It's worth noting that 77, 76 and Q7 are likely to all be in his range, and 53s might be as well.

Your bet-sizing is pretty terrible though on the flop and the turn.

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

He's a typical loose/passive from your description, so you can be sure that he will typically be raising post-flop with fairly strong ranges. It's worth noting that 77, 76 and Q7 are likely to all be in his range, and 53s might be as well.

Your bet-sizing is pretty terrible though on the flop and the turn.

Thanks spoonitnow, and yeah, in hindsight I should have bet something like 0.18 on the flop and 0.30 on the turn, I'm thinking.

I'd bet even more than that on the flop and even more on the turn tbh. Especially at 2nl, whenever you have a hand just bet, bet, bet. Can't go wrong with like 80% of the pot against standard calling stations which pretty much everyone at 2nl is.

Definitely fold turn though.

Originally Posted by Circuits

Thanks spoonitnow, and yeah, in hindsight I should have bet something like 0.18 on the flop and 0.30 on the turn, I'm thinking.

You could probably bet more here just because this guy is going to call down with so many hands that you beat, and there aren't many hands that he will fold just because you change your bet size.

Also, we'd love to have you in the FTR Chat Room if you'd like. http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ds-193340.html

Thanks I'mSavy. I do need to work on my bet sizes and probably my aggression, too. Will give it a try and see how things go.

I've joined the FTR channel (been a while since I've used IRC), so hopefully I'll see some of you there.

Originally Posted by Circuits

Thanks I'mSavy. I do need to work on my bet sizes and probably my aggression, too. Will give it a try and see how things go.

I've joined the FTR channel (been a while since I've used IRC), so hopefully I'll see some of you there.

Yeah I'm on now. So are DoubleJ, yourself and a few others like fats (baard) who isn't active in the forums but who can answer poker questions and is all-around hilarious.

Considering their huge pre-flop calling ranges I think I would have raised bigger pre as well.

I hopes you fold
Bet moar all streets

0.20 flop

0.35/fold turn

This type of player sounds very passive, so easy b/f on the turn.

Thanks for all the input. I did fold on the turn and am glad the consensus here is that it was the right play.

I'll definitely work on my bet sizing; that seems to be one of my biggest issues at present.

KQs is such a ridiculously strong hand in this situation preflop that I'd be tempted to make it much larger than if you had QJo or 66 or something. I'd probably make it at least 0.16 pre, and then bomb the flop and turn with big bets. As played considering that you aren't getting a great price to all it off for the rest when he pushes the turn, I fold. But with my sizing pre/flop/turn you'd be betting like one dollar and not 20 cents, so I definitely wouldn't fold for only a buck fifty more.

Thanks Renton, I've definitely got some work to do with bet sizing. Bit of experimenting, me thinks.