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    Default [2NL] KK unsure OTT

    Villain had only played 11 hands. He was 100/78. 50% fcbet, 1/2.

    Had seen him raise 0.14 in CO with 73o. Bet the flop small with 7 high, picks up GSSD on turn, bets a decent amount this time. Board pairs on the river, and he bets a decent amount again, between 60-70% of pot.

    PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    UTG: $1.98
    MP: $2.00
    CO: $3.01
    BTN: $2.04
    SB: $4.91
    Hero (BB): $2.15

    SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K K

    UTG raises to $0.04, fold, CO calls $0.04, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.20, UTG calls $0.16, fold

    Flop: ($0.45, 2 players) 6 8 A
    Hero bets $0.34, UTG calls $0.34

    Turn: ($1.13, 2 players) Q
    [b]Hero ???

    Should I be betting again here for value? I mean villain could quite easily have any Ax/86/66/88...should I wait for a better spot or keep vbetting? B/f, c/c c/f?
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    Against this guy I'm c/c'ing to showdown. Against most others I'm c/f'ing this pretty easily.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
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    Altough he seems a bad player i think he could have here for example A2-A9, so my line is c-f because i think he never fold his hand on 2nd barrel...
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    c/c ~1/2 PSB / c/f PSB
    same for river

    I'd say there is far more than Aces in their range that can call one bet. They could have { QQ-99,8x } easily.
    If you keep betting, you'll rep the Ace and they'll fold anything that can't beat an ace.
    That doesn't mean your KK are good, it means your KK are probably ahead of Villain's flop calling range.
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    bet/f turn
    c/f river
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    PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    UTG: $1.98
    MP: $2.00
    CO: $3.01
    BTN: $2.04
    SB: $4.91
    Hero (BB): $2.15

    SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K K

    UTG raises to $0.04, fold, CO calls $0.04, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.20, UTG calls $0.16, fold

    Flop: ($0.45, 2 players) 6 8 A
    Hero bets $0.34, UTG calls $0.34

    Turn: ($1.13, 2 players) Q
    Hero checks, UTG checks

    River: ($1.13, 2 players) 5
    Hero checks, UTG bets $0.94, Hero ???

    How about now?
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    sighcall

    You've let him think your C-bet was air... he's let you think he called with less than an Ace...

    Expect to lose the min some of the time. You'll win against all his 8x and Qx that didn't make 2 pr. Maybe see JJ-99,77 some of the time. Maybe 97, if so take a note.
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    that river card actually completes a lot of hands
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    dunno why you checked the river in the first place.
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    I was happy to get to a cheap showdown so I could see what he had played with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra_1878 View Post
    I was happy to get to a cheap showdown so I could see what he had played with.
    this is bad logic doucy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    this is bad logic doucy?
    Is it? Why would I not want to see what he min raised with UTG? Yeah I might miss out on some value but that is counter balanced with the information I might gain from seeing his hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    bet/f turn
    c/f river
    This. Plenty of floats, middle pocket pairs, 8x in this particular villain's range. Would c/f turn against a fit or fold, nitty type however.

    As played, folding rvr.

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