$2NL FR - Shove turn or river?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($2.03)
UTG+1 ($3.51)
MP1 ($0.70)
MP2 ($2.29)
Hero (CO) ($4.01)
Button ($0.94)
SB ($2.11)
BB ($2.62)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A, J
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.10, 3 folds, MP1 calls $0.08
Flop: ($0.23) 9, 2, A (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.16, MP1 calls $0.16
Turn: ($0.55) K (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks
River: ($0.55) 8 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.44, MP1 calls $0.44 (All-In)
Total pot: $1.43 | Rake: $0.09

This from a session I just played where villian was a whale running at 60/6, so the limp call keeps his range massive.

I'm massively ahead of his range on the flop, so I make a c-bet for value but when the K turn hits I wasn't sure whether or to not ship the turn or waiting until the river, which may give me a better chance of being called.

The range which I think is likely for the turn is a lot of Ax's, 22-1010, spades, 9x's and some air

When the 8 of spades hits on the river and villian checks, I am nearly always good here (I think) so I value bet the rest of villians stack.

all his FD's are going to call a shove on the river and not call when they miss. Definitely bet the turn over betting the river when a 3rd spade hits.

Also bet the turn because bet the turn...hes still going to call with tons of Ax that you beat (AT, A7, A6, A5, A4,A3) as well as flush draws that (like i said before) will not call when they miss the river.

You went way out of your way to avoid getting value from flush draws in this hand.

but as I have a few K's in my range, KQ, KJ K10 wouldn't the king be another scare card for him if he has a 9 or pocket pair?

Good grief bet the goddamn turn and stop leveling yourself.

Originally Posted by scfc_andy15

but as I have a few K's in my range, KQ, KJ K10 wouldn't the king be another scare card for him if he has a 9 or pocket pair?

And if that's true, how are you gaining anything by checking the turn and getting it in on the river?

It's pointless to check Turn.

Turn: MP1 checks, Hero checks.

No reason to check on the Turn unless your allowing him to catch the Flush for some unknown reason.

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

And if that's true, how are you gaining anything by checking the turn and getting it in on the river?

My thinking at the time, which was probably wrong was that shoving the river would look bluffier after checking the turn, as he had less than a pot sized bet, and would be more likely to call with 9's and pocket pairs.

You have to bring people to value town, they don't go there on their own.

Your also giving a free card to someone that could turn 2-pair trips flush whatever.

Originally Posted by scfc_andy15

My thinking at the time, which was probably wrong was that shoving the river would look bluffier after checking the turn, as he had less than a pot sized bet, and would be more likely to call with 9's and pocket pairs.

I can see why you would think that.

The problem is that the river changes the board. About half of the river cards are going to make it unlikely he calls with a 9. If the spade comes and he doesn't have the flush, then your action is completely shut down, getting no more value. If the spade comes and he does have the flush, you're getting stacked.

you could cbet bigger like 22-24 cents

but the pot was only .23 on the flop.