Quote Originally Posted by sarbox68
Quote Originally Posted by OhBollocks
Range is not one of my strongest points but here it is. I reckon villains range is massive and were ahead of a good bit that will call a value bet. Check behind is safe option though so I dunno

44+,Ac2c+,Kc2c+,,Qc2c+,Jc2c+,,Tc2c+,,9c2c+,8c2c+,7 c2c+,6c2c+,5c2c+,,4c2c+,3c2c,AQo+,A8o-A5o,Q8o-Q5o,97o+,84o+,74o+,64o+,54o
This range makes my head hurt.... ... and it may make add up to a 40% VPIP... but that of course goes out the window as soon as a cold calls you PF, then donks the flop, flats your raise and donks the turn...

By that point it's way narrower. IMHO the type of hands that like to cold-call complete in the BB include mid-small pockets looking to hit a set, Axs, Kxs, suited connectors/gappers and maybe unsuited connectors. And this board by the Turn is nasty as f-k for a big chunk of that range, esp. given villains persistent agression thru flop & turn.

That being said, you could still be ahead. However, you need to be ahead more than 50% of the time when vil calls your bet to make it worth betting (assuming they fold if behind such as with a busted straight draw, etc.)... and I just don't think you are. Add to that any chance this guy might be a) setting you up for a check-raise for value or b) willing/able to bluff raise over a small value bet, and I def believe you're sub-50.
Limptards range is wider than you think by the river. I still think the range I posted (it made my head hurt too btw) is good on the river. I gave no reads other than stats on villain but I should have stated that my table image was very agg as I'd hit a nice streak of playable cards+action.

I agree with Bbickies that we wont often see a bluff raise here.