Alright i know i suck so bear with me...

Pig_Vomit wrote:
shitty hand


Yeah, it's only a top 5% hand with good pair, nut straight and 2nd nut flush value. Total worthless crap. I like 4 cards that all work together...
My thinking hear is that villian has shown strength from UTG and that hands like AA, KK, AK, AQ, AJ, KJ and even QJ or a pocket pair are a massive part of their range (I suck at ranges and am probably putting them on too narrow a range). So i'm going to either win a small pot or lose a large one. I generaly fold KQ in an already opened pot from anything but the cut off or BB and pay no mind to runner runner outs. Is this incorrect?

Pig_Vomit wrote:
If not folding i'd at least want to take the initiative and play back at the villian but then again i don't really understand pot control.


Re-read that like 5 times.
I must be missing something?

swiggidy wrote:
iopq wrote:
So a check/raise on the flop is not standard?

It kills the range we're beating and gets raised by the range we're losing to.
I didn't think of that but don't we gain some value by milking an extra bet out of the villian when he misses the flop completly?

Leading the turn w/ a shove was another option when the 2nd J hit as a semi-bluff.
Yeah as played I like this idea.