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PLO8 hero overbet shoves the nuts

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  1. #1

    Default PLO8 hero overbet shoves the nuts

    Full Tilt Poker Game #12339726627: Table Luna - $1/$2 - No Limit Omaha H/L - 21:41:31 ET - 2009/05/20

    Seat 8: salsa4ever ($301.80)
    Seat 9: Class V ($122.70)
    brokenloylty posts the small blind of $1
    My Bluff Worked posts the big blind of $2
    The button is in seat #9
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to salsa4ever [:Kh: :Jc: :Kd:]
    ray918273 folds
    robbieb52 folds
    Somakid314 folds
    eugul1968 folds
    EDESS calls $2
    salsa4ever calls $2
    Class V calls $2
    brokenloylty calls $1
    My Bluff Worked checks
    *** FLOP *** [ :Ks: ]

    Can't have a much better flop than this...

    brokenloylty checks
    My Bluff Worked checks
    EDESS checks

    salsa4ever bets $9
    Class V calls $9
    brokenloylty folds
    My Bluff Worked folds
    EDESS folds

    *** TURN *** [9c Ks 8h] [2s]
    salsa4ever has 15 seconds left to act
    salsa4ever bets $290.80, and is all in

    Pot is $28
    Villain has about $110 left and I cover

    Villain is stationy and we've had some history. Based on hand analysis and board and stacks I pretty much have to call (or push) any river if I bet and villain calls here.

    Villain may have flush draw or straight draw or low draw or some random 2 pair or set. I think he'd call with a set.

    Do i push or bet something like $100?
    Or perhaps pot size like $25?
    Quote Originally Posted by bigred
    Would you bone your cousins? Salsa would.
    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever
    well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?
  2. #2
    title is the biggest mindfuck of the year

    i don't play this game at all but what about like $45 or something, might allow him to make more mistakes.
  3. #3
    i dont know i think with his hand range he could have a ace/3 spades and have a better draw then you, since you dont got no low draw youself, that turn was very dangerous cause the low comes out, so if he call and hits the spade he wins, let alone hitting a low card to take low, but with that size bet, even i was him and had that draw i would fold cause the low draw never hits in that situation lol
  4. #4
    I think you may have played this hand the best possible way, IMHO.

    Just feels like one of those situations were you win a little on the turn or potentially lose a lot on river.

    I think that turn is probably the worst card for your hand, if villain had some type of OESD or wrap draw even as bad a low as 76, throw in a backdoor flush, he is ahead.

    The other issue is position, say you make a PSB on the turn and villain flat calls. Board pairs on the river, I don't think he pays you off if you shove. You describe him as stationary, but I don't know how light he calls down on the river. You say you have to call any river, there a lot scary cards that could hit the river that either forces you to call a potential bluff (particularly if a low card hits), or pay off a hand that gets there.
  5. #5
    I think it is an OK play, however with the range of hands you put him on I would bet the pot and bet or call any river


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