For all you 6-max limit winners out there i have a question.

What should my Poker Tracker numbers look like?

VP$iP?
VP$ip SB?
Fold sb to steal?
fold bb to steal?
att to steal blinds?
Won money WSF%
Went to SD%
Won at SD%
Aggression?

thank you.

I don't have good answres for this but here's some of my data with a consistent winning rate.

VP$iP: I run @ 28% myself - but I play well post-flop.
VP$ip SB: I run @30% w/ 28% PFR (mostly steal attempts).
Fold sb to steal: 70% I don't like defending the SB mostly.
fold bb to steal: 61% But I will defend my BB on occassion.
att to steal blinds? 60% for myself - maybe a bit too high.
Won money WSF%: 45%
Went to SD%: 36%
Won at SD%: 53%
Aggression: @ 2 accross the board is optimum. I average post-flop 2.25.


ADD BB/100: Between 1-5 is good. I'm running @3.1 over a small sample size though.

Would love feedback on others on my numbers above though.

I run 25/20 and pretty darn aggressive. I lost all of my old PT database.

Just dont run like I did last session with 48% WTSD and 28% won money at showdown, that wouldn't be good for your roll.

Nice 28vpip. I think you defen you SB to much though, also you WWSF is very high, normally like 33-36 attempt is nuts man. Maby 40% tops, 33-36 reall. In poker tracker use the filter and click "chnce to steal and raised" look at you bb/100/hand If you multiply this number by 100, it should be at least double your "PTBB/100". Ive seen the best BB/100 at

VP25.50
PFR 17.0 <--(should be your VPIP x 0.66)
AGR 3.5 2.5 2.0
WTS 34.00 (between 33 and 36 is right)
W$@S anything over 50 is good but if your 60% W$@S check you WTS odds are its low.
WWSF-any thing over 30 is good 33-36 opt. AGin if its very high check your showdown stats Could also mean you dont limp enough.




VP$iP: I run @ 28% myself - but I play well post-flop.
VP$ip SB: I run @30% w/ 28% PFR (mostly steal attempts).
Fold sb to steal: 70% I don't like defending the SB mostly.
fold bb to steal: 61% But I will defend my BB on occassion.
att to steal blinds? 60% for myself - maybe a bit too high.
Won money WSF%: 45%
Went to SD%: 36%
Won at SD%: 53%
Aggression: @ 2 accross the board is optimum. I average post-flop 2.25.


ADD BB/100: Between 1-5 is good. I'm running @3.1 over a small sample size though.

Would love feedback on others on my numbers above though.[/quote]


also check your %VPIP in blinds, if your defending more then 30% its too much Just use filter Position (anyblind)

from what i've read, you need to determine YOUR OWN NATURAL STYLE.

if you are a bit nitty, 20/10/2 (vpip/pfr/AF).

i, however, like to see a few more hands, i run 24/15/3.

however, i've read ideal river numbers are...w$wsf 30-35, w$sd 50-60. and your WtSD number should be in the lower 20's.

bottom line is when you establish your own personal vpip/pfr/AF numbers, you will start to be better at pinning your opponents on ranges based on what you would play and whether your opponent is looser/tighter than you. that alone will make you a better reader of hands...so long as you are a profitable player.

oh, and as for win rate...euphorism (i think) will tell you that you just cannot run over a 2 for 100k hands, mathematically speaking, at just about any level. anything over a 2, over a LARGE sample, is doing very well.

Originally Posted by Chopper

from what i've read, you need to determine YOUR OWN NATURAL STYLE.

if you are a bit nitty, 20/10/2 (vpip/pfr/AF).

i, however, like to see a few more hands, i run 24/15/3.

however, i've read ideal river numbers are...w$wsf 30-35, w$sd 50-60. and your WtSD number should be in the lower 20's.

bottom line is when you establish your own personal vpip/pfr/AF numbers, you will start to be better at pinning your opponents on ranges based on what you would play and whether your opponent is looser/tighter than you. that alone will make you a better reader of hands...so long as you are a profitable player.

oh, and as for win rate...euphorism (i think) will tell you that you just cannot run over a 2 for 100k hands, mathematically speaking, at just about any level. anything over a 2, over a LARGE sample, is doing very well.

I just have to dissagree with the WTS stat. Where did you hear that 20% is standerd at 6max. Thats is waaay to tight. 30-35 at least. Think about it, there is alot more value in medium strength hands." If your calling and always winning, you not calling enough"~CAro.

Chopper:

I just want to determine the numbers that I may co-incide with as much as set a benchmark I want to aim for.

While it is correct, IMO, to set your own style, and go with it, some areas are going to be obvious leaks. LIke a huge WTS, with a low win percentage = Calling with 2nd best waaaay too often. I want to identify numbers that are anamalous in order to try to keep this BB/100 in the green. I don't think I could handle being felted again. lol

26/18/2.5 (3.0)

WTS 33 W$@S 50+ ATTS 33%-40%

thats good lookin six max stats

Originally Posted by Chopper

....and your WtSD number should be in the lower 20's.

are you kidding me? weak tightys loose so much money by not going to SD.

I've always based other players at my table compared to my own numbers. I usually don't play with Aggression Factors on my HUD, but Aggression Frequencies (bet+raise divided by bet+raise+call). Comes with PokerAce. Normally between 50 & 60 is about right. Higher is very aggressive, lower is more passive.

And yes my WWSF is high.... I like it like that. I play based on position, aggressiveness, & cards, not simply cards. The higher the better.

Originally Posted by Stagemn

Originally Posted by Chopper

....and your WtSD number should be in the lower 20's.

are you kidding me? weak tightys loose so much money by not going to SD.

I've always based other players at my table compared to my own numbers. I usually don't play with Aggression Factors on my HUD, but Aggression Frequencies (bet+raise divided by bet+raise+call). Comes with PokerAce. Normally between 50 & 60 is about right. Higher is very aggressive, lower is more passive.

And yes my WWSF is high.... I like it like that. I play based on position, aggressiveness, & cards, not simply cards. The higher the better.

Your 1/2 right. The higher the better is not true though. If your allways winning when you see the flop, your not seeing the flop enough. If your WWSF is 60% your leaving alot of coin on that table. If people fear you that much all the more reason to play back. WWSF should be 40% top. You might be missing alot of value also by not showing down made hands,.