WW 2013 Edition: The Conglomerate

Count on bigred anyone?

Originally Posted by wufwugy

besides, keith, in what universe am i trying to stop the pascal wagon when it hits NINE/TEN with under an hour left, and the only thing im focusing on is trying to figure out why dtb (a supposed fellow wolf) is a better option

apparently im a magic man who can be two things at the same time

i went back and checked you disappeared from posting for an hour after DTB outed himself . You stayed lynching the outed seer, gabe told you that not lynching and outed seer is the only play to make yet you still try to stop the pascal wagon and work out how to lynch an outed seer.then only once pascal is dead you miraculously believe you can prove DTB is lieing and that pascal is probably a wolf as well.real convenient timing .Only a wolf takes these actions.

Originally Posted by Keith

i went back and checked you disappeared from posting for an hour after DTB outed himself . You stayed lynching the outed seer, gabe told you that not lynching and outed seer is the only play to make yet you still try to stop the pascal wagon and work out how to lynch an outed seer.then only once pascal is dead you miraculously believe you can prove DTB is lieing and that pascal is probably a wolf as well.real convenient timing .Only a wolf takes these actions.

keith - a Wufwugy lynch is a bad idea

I'll put Bigred back on bold if we can get one more. I'm not leaving Wuf tied at this time. I think we can visit all this with more time, and we can let the DTB thing play out tonight. If he's a wolf it will reveal itself, the wolves can't let him keep looking them up if he is.

40 mins to go

Originally Posted by daven

keith, imagine a world (for a moment) where you are not able to vote to lynch wufwugy tonight. Who is the best lynch target?

everyone else could be the seer even DTB has 0.000001% chance. Wuf is never the seer here which is why he is the best choice . A villager would recognise that we have to protect the seer and would be willing to die for the village . A wolf never wants to die for the village . they may sacrifice for the wolf team with fake outs etc. but then thats to force a real seer out. I have many times in the past said lynch xxx and if i'm wrong lynch me . if you are willing to put your game life on the line it helps prove your villagerness. The village is greater than the individual. EGO wuf comes before anything .

lol someone saying lynch xxxx and if I'm wrong lynch me doesn't prove shit or mean shit.

If DTB has evn the smallest chance of being the seer then you can't vote Wuf at this time keith, you have to let the DTB thing play out first. If your protecting 'DTB over Wuf and DTB survives the night your putting yourself on the block

Originally Posted by rong

Count on bigred anyone?

looks like 3, Gator, Rong, Me

If I pull off of Wuf it's a 3 way tie with 4 each. One more Bigred vote and I will switch.

pull off of DTB that is.

DTB is far less likely to be seer than any other player but more likely than wuf. If wuf comes back wolf as i expect then we confirm two wolves with one lynch.

Originally Posted by Keith

DTB is far less likely to be seer than any other player but more likely than wuf. If wuf comes back wolf as i expect then we confirm two wolves with one lynch.

You really think DTB fake outted and claimed to have looked up another wolf?

And that he claimed that wolf as a villager?

Then claimed Boog as a wolf knowing we have all this info?

we need sdm back to take all the heat from keith's delusions

The DTB and bigred wagons need to consolidate into one wagon, it's going to be way too close otherwise.

daven/rong will you vote for DTB instead?

if we lynch anyone but wuf , tomorrow we can have wuf DTB and JV and all the same arguments since if JV really is vig the wolves act before him tomorrow so they have no need to kill him today and can keep pointing suspicion at him tomorrow.

Yep, wuf has a big enough ego to think that he can use wolf naming him as a villager in an outing post as proof that he's a villager which is what he's been doing all day quoting "game theory " all the time. Wolves were under time pressure and voting pressure when this all went down , it was a hurried plan that wasn't thought through as a result.

Originally Posted by Keith

if we lynch anyone but wuf , tomorrow we can have wuf DTB and JV and all the same arguments since if JV really is vig the wolves act before him tomorrow so they have no need to kill him today and can keep pointing suspicion at him tomorrow.

Yep, wuf has a big enough ego to think that he can use wolf naming him as a villager in an outing post as proof that he's a villager which is what he's been doing all day quoting "game theory " all the time. Wolves were under time pressure and voting pressure when this all went down , it was a hurried plan that wasn't thought through as a result.

No I don't because under no circumstance do I survive a look up if I do that as a wolf

Fix your shit, Keith. NO WOLVES take this much heat purposely while a seer is alive. Well, no wolves other than you, but you're delusional. I'm not. It has been established that I don't make sick moves but simply try to do the best to help my team win

Going to bed.

Lynch DTB

don't forget , wuf went missing for the same amount of time that DTB went missing after DTB outed himself. Then DTB decided it wwas a good time to stay away from the internet and take a shower. Wuf conveniently had to help put racks in his brothers van. they needed discussion time whilst the shit was hitting the fan and had to work out what they were going to do especially as it was pascal's wagon that took off rather than a resurrection of the jyms wagon.

Looks like the wolves successfully led the village to lynching 2 specials.

On the bright side, the next three actions are forced and will clear up some confusion:

Wuf is eaten tonight....BooG gets lynched tomorrow....JV gets eaten tomorrow night (assuming he's the vig).

rong - dtb
daven - bigred
jyms - dtb
aubrey - dtb
hoopy - dtb
bikes - dtb
gizmo - wuf
gator - bigred
ong - rong
boog - wuf
keith - wuf
jv - wuf
dtb - boog
wuf = dtb

dtb = 6
bigred = 2
wuf = 4
rong = 1
boog = 1

Originally Posted by DropTheBanana

Looks like the wolves successfully led the village to lynching 2 specials.

On the bright side, the next three actions are forced and will clear up some confusion:

Wuf is eaten tonight....BooG gets lynched tomorrow....JV gets eaten tomorrow night (assuming he's the vig).

o hai nice to see you pop and be all seery

Originally Posted by Keith

don't forget , wuf went missing for the same amount of time that DTB went missing after DTB outed himself. Then DTB decided it wwas a good time to stay away from the internet and take a shower. Wuf conveniently had to help put racks in his brothers van. they needed discussion time whilst the shit was hitting the fan and had to work out what they were going to do especially as it was pascal's wagon that took off rather than a resurrection of the jyms wagon.

i think you have blinkers on re Wufwugy.
He shouldn't be at risk of being lynched tonight.
I don't like lynching Dropthebanana as possible seer. I like lynching Wufwugy even less. There are better lynch targets than either of them.

Originally Posted by wufwugy

No I don't because under no circumstance do I survive a look up if I do that as a wolf

Fix your shit, Keith. NO WOLVES take this much heat purposely while a seer is alive. Well, no wolves other than you, but you're delusional. I'm not. It has been established that I don't make sick moves but simply try to do the best to help my team win

you didn't expect to take any heat from the village as a result of DTB naming you and for a lot of today you didn't . You took heat as a result of your actions today forcing an examination of your antics on the previous days deadline wagons. That examination made you look wolfy as hell

Originally Posted by wufwugy

o hai nice to see you pop and be all seery

I'm trying to leave the village with facts and not arrogant misdirected ramblings.

Sorry, I'll try to be more like you next time.

Originally Posted by daven

I don't like lynching Dropthebanana as possible seer. I like lynching Wufwugy even less. There are better lynch targets than either of them.

This

Originally Posted by DropTheBanana

On the bright side, the next three actions are forced and will clear up some confusion:

Wuf is eaten tonight....BooG gets lynched tomorrow....JV gets eaten tomorrow night (assuming he's the vig).

If this happens we are in a rough spot.

Originally Posted by jyms

If this happens we are in a rough spot.

Obv, since y'all are out of specials. But the lines that have been drawn should be clearer after the dust settles.

Originally Posted by Hoopy

The DTB and bigred wagons need to consolidate into one wagon, it's going to be way too close otherwise.

daven/rong will you vote for DTB instead?

i won't vote Wufwugy. I prefer to lynch Bigred over lynching Dropthebanana. I can move to Dropthebanana if necessary to prevent Wufwugy from being lynched. I can't see the wolves being cavalier enough to try and take down Wufwugy in the last ten minutes.

The wolves don't have to do anything right now if DTB comes up seer. We aren't forcing much hand. Although we do get Boog tomorrow.

Dtb isn't the seer lol

I've cleared Wuf, seems like the only logical choice they have. No way they leave the only confirmed villager around to lead the way.

Have to post before the deadline on the slight chance that DTB shows seer and I'm nom'd tonight

This would mean that lynching the seer was actually a really great move because the wolves very specifically planned to make a terrible move of not nomming him so they could pull a trick later. I think that trick would be for them to play a certain way on a DTB-lynching wagon, and I think that way would be high reluctance so they can claim "yeesh I knew all along he was a seer. Ah schucks."

This would mean you guys need to look hard at Rong, Jyms, and probably Daven because they have all been dancing around the DTB lynch unlike the others

I'm typing this up and posting it right before the deadline regardless of who is lynched. It won't matter though because DTB will flip wolf



Other than that, we need to look at some of those who magically disappeared. Like Ong. I am shocked that he wasn't around for the final hours and is leaving his vote on Rong. I'm a little surprised Gator wasn't around either. Everybody on my wagon (other than Keith) seem to be so confident in their decision that they're not around in the final hours....


FWIW if DTB flips seer, don't get mad at me. I had little choice to stop your structurally bad decision in lynching me that I had to force his lynch to keep you from messing up even worse by lynching me. This is for the reasons I've already stated, but also because it would make you believe he really is the seer (since I will flip villager), then you would lynch Boog, and he would so often come back as villager too and you would find you left an outed seer that NOBODY believes live far too long and contort your behavior

I want a re-do

I'm the vig guys

gotcha

TIme extension!!!!

If your the Vig you really fucked this game as a villager

hehe

I'm The Angel!!!

HES THE WUFINATOR

Final Vote Count 3.04

Boog(1): DTB,
Rong(1):, ong
Wufwugy(4): Keith, JV, Boog , ng
Bigred(2):, Gator, daven
DTB(6): wufwugy, bikes, hoopy, Aubrey, jyms, rong

Notvoting:,bigred

Deadline has been reached! With 6 votes, DTB has been lynched through deadline!

You stand.

A sweet and sultry voice, “By majority's consent, this council has condemned DropThyBanana to die.”

Without a moments reflection your hand moves from within your coat to before your eyes, balancing an elegant blade between your thumb and fingertips. You inspect the steel, folded 1001 times in the fashion of the old iron masters. The blade swirls of the grays, blacks, and silvers of its composite elements; the handle soft and smooth, of white gold set against a beautiful ivory. The edge it holds could cut the world in two.

You slide the knife up beneath the buttons of your shirt, baring your chest to the dark. You run the flat blade against your ribcage just to the left of your sternum feeling the distinct ridges of the bones and hardened cartilage. You rest the point high on your chest, angling toward your heart and thrust against yourself. The blade parts flesh and opens into a pounding chamber of your heart.

You see yourself as a young man, in the army fatigues of a country long past; the night you slipped out for some victimless philandering; the unceremonious letter that relieved you of your duties; the fragments of nights run together running with the wrong crowd you fell right into; that first morning in the cell; all the mornings in the cell; the day of your release, when you felt the sun bothering eyes much older than they should be; the first day at sea on the salvage tug La Liberté; the day you discovered the sunken Spanish merchant ship beneath the waves of a cold and murky sea; the agreement with Spanish authorities to become a nationalized maritime company in exchange for the return of the lost riches; the growth of the operation into an international shipping company and the first moment you felt a king; the day you met a true king; the moment you laid eyes on the most beautiful woman in the world and still the first moment you felt human; how quickly and passionately you fell together, mending your cleaved world together; how she... how she...

You reach but haven't the strength to remember. “No.”

All that you can hold are those eyes, huge, blue, and deep; oceans of warmth laughing back at you. “I know this.” But not for the fading life of you can you understand the purpose of those eyes smiling.

DroptheBanana, a wolf, has been lynched!

The Conglomerate

Living Members of the board
Boog690
Hoopy
Rong
Bikes
Jyms
Wufwugy
Ongbonga
Jackvance
Daven
Gator
Aubrey
NightGizmo
Keith
Bigred

10 Villagers
1 Seer
1 Even Night Vigilante
2 Wolves

The Deceased
Fulksy, The Angel, Lynched Day 1
TLR, Regular Villager, Killed Night 1
Pascal, Wolf, Lynched Day 2
Gabe, Regular Villager, Killed Night 2
XTR1000, Regular Villager, Killed Night 2
Dropthebanana, Wolf, Lynched Day 3

It is now Night 3. Night will last for 24 hours, unless the wolves decide to extend it to 48. The vigilante may not fire tonight.

You die.

Rong, a villager, has been killed!

The Conglomerate

Living Members of the board
Boog690
Hoopy
Bikes
Jyms
Wufwugy
Ongbonga
Jackvance
Daven
Gator
Aubrey
NightGizmo
Keith
Bigred

9 Villagers
1 Seer
1 Even Night Vigilante
2 Wolves

The Deceased
Fulksy, The Angel, Lynched Day 1
TLR, Regular Villager, Killed Night 1
Pascal, Wolf, Lynched Day 2
Gabe, Regular Villager, Killed Night 2
XTR1000, Regular Villager, Killed Night 2
Dropthebanana, Wolf, Lynched Day 3
Rong, Regular Villager, Killed Night 3

It is now Day 4. Deadline will be 72 hours from now. With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

Probably actually a good nom because Rong did seem like he could be the seer

JV not dying means that either 1) he's a wolf or 2) the wolves either believe or have been clarified to by JKDS that the vig doesn't act before the wolves in the night phase. Normally, the vig always acts first, but JKDS did say otherwise in the opener. I have half a mind to think that may have been a typo though.

Anyways, we don't really have much left to do because I have found the final wolf. We can lynch him and then the vig will shoot JV and we'll be done


lynch boog


"Why", you might ask? Here's the step by step of shit

Step 1: DTB outs as seer at end of Day 2 and nobody believes him.

Step 2: For this reason, the wolves know that the village won't follow DTB, so this gives them a reason to have DTB name a wolf as a wolf, thereby tricking the village

Step 3: Boog likes this idea because that's how he rolls, and JV can't be the one named; therefore, Boog is named

Step 4: DTB and Boog fight back and forth on Day 3, but it seemed a wee contrived and Boog never bolded or tried to get DTB lynched. This is peculiar since if Boog is a villager and DTB names him wolf then Boog KNOWS FOR A FACT that DTB is a lying wolf, and he won't be prone to let DTB off the hook

Step 5: Boog makes a case against me. Notice that out of the blue big ass Keith-esque post Boog made against me, but he never really seemed to care too much. He dilly-dallies around with lynching me, then finally does it and disappears during the end period of the day. So that means Boog, who KNOWS FOR A FACT that DTB is lying felt it wouldn't be of any worth to try to lynch DTB or even hop off the Wuf wagon in order to lynch DTB


Boog is our final wolf


And I have now finally, finally gotten that goat soulpwn of teh wolves I've been trying to since my very first game. No need to shower me with praise; knowing I did my job is reward enough

Originally Posted by wufwugy

"Why", you might ask? Here's the step by step of shit

Step 1: DTB outs as seer at end of Day 2 and nobody believes him.

Step 2: For this reason, the wolves know that the village won't follow DTB, so this gives them a reason to have DTB name a wolf as a wolf, thereby tricking the village

Step 3: Wuf likes this idea because it appeals to his ego and he knows his actions on the end of the wagon are dodgy as hell.

Step 4: DTB and Wuf need to find a victim to name as their lookup and if he could also be the seer so much the better.Boog is a perfect choice as they know that keith will continue to press for a boog lynch and they think they can steamroller a lynch through especially nce the boog vote goes in from keith. When boog dies and is shown to be a villager then wuf can target keith.

FYP . Care to explain how yesterday you kept repeating that DTB would never name a fellow wolf as a villager with a live seer when the person being accused of being a wolf was you. Now all of a sudden , Its the central theme of why boog is a wolf. If it applies to Boog it applies equally to you.

And I have now finally, finally gotten that goat soulpwn of teh wolves I've been trying to since my very first game. No need to shower me with praise; knowing I did my job is reward enough

Don't you think it might be wise to wait until you've been shown to be right before you inflate your ego so much. Luckily its easy for us to find out if the wolves named a fellow wolf by lynching both of you. And since you think that the wolves have done this, i'm sure you'll be happy to have your theory proven and give it some validity by proving that you are a villager so that we can then safely lynch boog and give you the praise that you crave.

in order to validate wufs theory ......and cos i still think that wuf is a wolf for all the reasons i gave yesterday.

lynch WUF

off to bed now

I love you Keith. Thanks for making it short so I can actually respond

Originally Posted by Keith

FYP . Care to explain how yesterday you kept repeating that DTB would never name a fellow wolf as a villager with a live seer when the person being accused of being a wolf was you. Now all of a sudden , Its the central theme of why boog is a wolf. If it applies to Boog it applies equally to you.

Not sure I actually did that, but okay. I probably said it, but you'll notice I say a lot of things for largely "devil's advocate" type of reasons.

Don't you think it might be wise to wait until you've been shown to be right before you inflate your ego so much.

Of course not, what would be the fun in that? The difference between Keith's ego and egowugy is that egowugy knows it's a joke

Luckily its easy for us to find out if the wolves named a fellow wolf by lynching both of you. And since you think that the wolves have done this, i'm sure you'll be happy to have your theory proven and give it some validity by proving that you are a villager so that we can then safely lynch boog and give you the praise that you crave.

in order to validate wufs theory ......and cos i still think that wuf is a wolf for all the reasons i gave yesterday.

lynch WUF

off to bed now

Pascal? Check

DTB? Check

JV? Check

Do you seriously think I have been trying to off my ENTIRE team so I can be the last man standing? You do realize the seer is still alive and can look me up any time right? Not to mention the vig could find all my talky-talk gives him an itchy finger.



So how's that theory of yours where I was protecting Pascal by trying to get DTB lynched doing for you?

Wuf, your theory is soso awful. You DO know that I've played almost every game for years now. You think I'd put any effort into trying to get DTB lynched? I know that there's a zero percent chance of DTB EVER getting lynched at that point. And I was sleeping when the DTB bandwagon started and ended. I would quote the part where you swore an unconfirmed seer/wolf was a better lynch candidate than you. Horrible logic but you somehow got that through.

Anyway, lynch Wufwugy because his ego blinds him every game and for reasons I said before.

Also, both wolves had you when they named "confirmed villagers." Just saying.

i think boog is the best lynch today from a game theory perspective

I'm torn between Wuf and Boog. Leaning towards Wuf. Double lynch?

lynch boog shoot wuf imo

i should clarify lynch boog and if boog isn't a wolf shoot wuf

oh lynch boog

DTB more than capable of making the big plays

Originally Posted by BooG690

Anyway, lynch Wufwugy because his ego blinds him every game and for reasons I said before.

Having clawed my way to life and getting DTB wannabe-seer wolf killed while also having made a great case against Pascal still makes you think I'm a wolf?

Why exactly do you think I'm a wolf, Boog? This isn't revenge-wolf where you get to say stuff yet not back it up. You don't have actual good reasons to think I'm a wolf. Sure, you have reasons to not necessarily want me around (curiously, EXACTLY the same reasons for your other main wanna-lynch in Bigred), but you don't have any real reasons for thinking I'm a wolf

That's an important distinction. You do realize that JV wasn't nom'd right? You do, right? So me having pushed soooooooo hard - as you claimed was one reason you wanted to lynch me so badly was - showed him to be a wolf due to the fact that he wasn't nom'd last night as the wannabe-vig, and yet you still want to lynch me?

I see right through your thick wool coat. If you were playing for the village, you would have second thoughts on thinking I'm a wolf. I've been integral in gatting DTB, outing JV, and was the first to make a legit good case against Pascal, and you still wanna lynch me? Have at it, hoss. This will not end well for you and your snarling buddy, JV

you do realize you have to die eventually right? the same with me and everyone else good at this game

Originally Posted by bikes

i should clarify lynch boog and if boog isn't a wolf shoot wuf

Actually, it's "lynch Boog shoot JV", lest we forget the so-called "vig" stopped caring about the game after he outed and since has survived the night phase

Originally Posted by bikes

you do realize you have to die eventually right? the same with me and everyone else good at this game

omg did you just say im good at this game?

YOU CANT TAKE IT BACK. NOT EVER. I WONT LET YOU

Seriously though, no need to kill us since Boog and JV are the lockiest locks in all lockland

Originally Posted by wufwugy

Actually, it's "lynch Boog shoot JV", lest we forget the so-called "vig" stopped caring about the game after he outed and since has survived the night phase

if boog is a wolf it really doesnt matter which order it goes it because its either lynch boog shoot jv and lynch wuf or lynch boog shoot wuf and lynch jv should any of that fail

Originally Posted by bikes

i think boog is the best lynch today from a game theory perspective

Just for shits and giggles, how is this so, from a game theory perspective, I mean?

Originally Posted by wufwugy

You do realize that JV wasn't nom'd right? You do, right? So me having pushed soooooooo hard - as you claimed was one reason you wanted to lynch me so badly was - showed him to be a wolf due to the fact that he wasn't nom'd last night as the wannabe-vig, and yet you still want to lynch me?

This is hardly convincing evidence. It's more likely that the wolves were hoping to kill the seer, expecting to be able to kill JV tonight before he can fire a shot. And you agree:

Originally Posted by wufwugy

JV not dying means that either 1) he's a wolf or 2) the wolves either believe or have been clarified to by JKDS that the vig doesn't act before the wolves in the night phase. Normally, the vig always acts first, but JKDS did say otherwise in the opener. I have half a mind to think that may have been a typo though.

Those posts were 2 hours apart.

Originally Posted by NightGizmo

This is hardly convincing evidence. It's more likely that the wolves were hoping to kill the seer, expecting to be able to kill JV tonight before he can fire a shot. And you agree:



Those posts were 2 hours apart.

That's why I'm not lynching JV today. There is still a remote possibility that the wolves did exactly as you said.

I'm unconvinced though. Partly because Ong's case for JV was legit as fuck - which is why I hopped onto it - but mainly because JV has been lackadaisical since. Outed specials hold unique positions where they get to tell the village what they think before they die, but JV has not done this. Just like his fellow wolf, all he has done is "lynch watwagy".

Wuf, I made my case for thinking you're a wolf. Just because the day ends, the evidence doesn't suddenly fly out the window. You make it seem that I'M the one "revenge voting" when I actually made a case for you yesterday. There's nothing revenge about it so why would you place it in that light? Also, it's ridiculous that "I like to fling mud around" is your defense for almost everything.

ugh i may end up pitching this theory. gin is making this hard to think

Originally Posted by BooG690

Wuf, I made my case for thinking you're a wolf. Just because the day ends, the evidence doesn't suddenly fly out the window. You make it seem that I'M the one "revenge voting" when I actually made a case for you yesterday. There's nothing revenge about it so why would you place it in that light? Also, it's ridiculous that "I like to fling mud around" is your defense for almost everything.

Because if you were a villager, you would rethink it based on the recent developments of the Pascal DTB JV roles and my place in making them apparent.

I haven't done everything here, far from it, but I've done a lot. DTB would be alive if it wasn't for me, and JV is looking like a wolf because of Ong and me.

Your insistence that I'm the droid you're looking for does not make you look legit

Wufwugy(4): Keith, JV, Boog , ng

DTB(6): wufwugy, bikes, hoopy, Aubrey, jyms, rong


the last wolves are certainly among these people. its def not danarong cause hes obv dead and its def not me

Originally Posted by bikes

ugh i may end up pitching this theory. gin is making this hard to think

do it do it do it do it do it doit doit doit doit doit doit

i am more inclined to think there is a wolf among jyms wuf hoopy and aubrey

UR GIN IS NO MATCH FOR MY VODKA

If we're going to discuss what should be done if I come up wolf, what should be done if I come up villager should also be discussed. I think an obvious Wuf death is the answer.

rescind whoever lynch jyms

i am tired of his too busy arguement. he's not playing like he usually does and he's def had plenty of time to start playing again.