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Top Pair Flush Draw, What's Next Step?

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  1. #1

    Default Top Pair Flush Draw, What's Next Step?

    What would you do?
    -----Hand 11-----
    Hero's M = 6.40
    PokerStars Game #6440607074: Tournament #32691411, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/09/27 - 17:17:21 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '32691411 1' 10-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (2720 in chips)
    Seat 3: omasmoney (3767 in chips)
    Seat 6: Louis244 (1595 in chips)
    Seat 7: la tropa (4230 in chips)
    Seat 10: gman580 (2688 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 25
    Louis244: posts small blind 100
    la tropa: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Jd Qh]
    gman580: folds
    Hero: calls 200
    omasmoney: folds
    Louis244: raises 400 to 600
    la tropa: folds
    Hero: calls 400
    *** FLOP *** [4d 6d 3h]
    Louis244: checks
    Hero: checks
    *** TURN *** [4d 6d 3h] [Qd]
    Louis244: bets 600
    Hero: ?????????????????
  2. #2
    raise or fold pre flop.

    as played, I would call just in case he has total air, but doesn't he only have like 400 left? It doesn't really matter how you play from here, you certainly aren't folding.
  3. #3
    Preflop, I would fold, don't limp call at these blind levels with an M of 6, its awful. Its raise / fold poker, Q-J UTG+1, even 5 handed, is a fold for me.

    As played, I would push, if your not ahead, you should have plenty of outs.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by caesar66
    Preflop, I would fold, don't limp call at these blind levels with an M of 6, its awful. Its raise / fold poker, Q-J UTG+1, even 5 handed, is a fold for me.

    As played, I would push, if your not ahead, you should have plenty of outs.
    What he said. Limp/calling at these blind levels, 5-handed, is terrible.
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    Easy fold pre, as limped, fold to the raise.
    When you call the preflop raise, the flop check I think is good. Although I could be wrong here. (meaning, it might be worth betting the flop when checked to).

    But on the turn you've got to raise for the rest of your stack. Unfortunately it's a scary raise to be making when you aren't really sure of the strength of your opp's hand relative to the board. This situation can be avoided by folding pre.
  6. #6
    No idea why i am going to say this since everyone has already said it..ok so basically everyone is right, you shouldnt play these kinds of hans with this blinds, at least not limp them, maybe you can raise but from UTG + 1 Im folding. This is probably a huge flawe in your game, you seriously need to learn how to play SNG's in the later stages (when to steal blinds, with what hands etc etc). As played you should just push all in on the turn IMO
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  7. #7
    Thanks all. Knew straight away I shouldn't have been involved, slip of concentration.

    Turns out he had AA and I didn't hit trips or a flush. Lesson learnt.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by marmot
    Thanks all. Knew straight away I shouldn't have been involved, slip of concentration.

    Turns out he had AA and I didn't hit trips or a flush. Lesson learnt.

    Hmm if the flush was hit, it would have been ok.


    But yeah dont limp call flat with JQ suited this deep id raise or fold probably fold about 80% of time if table is tight id raise its ep. But from that flop damn..Youve got to put him a big pair.


    What cant fish do or Ftr's do? Fold AA KK QQ JJ with no overs its the NUTSZZ even with fold equity it doesnt even make this play profitable as your behind with no ace or king.
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    Still looking for my royal flush.
  9. #9
    Your M is under 5 (after the preflop action) with the blinds on you soon. I think it's a must-call as played.

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