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  1. #1

    Default Finding a place to fold?

    These two hands happened about 3 hands between each other..was there a place I should have played it differently? Losing these put me way below the average stack and the blinds eventually just ate me.

    Stage #146042766: Holdem Multi ARP Tournament No Limit $100 [ 2005-06-27 17:59:15 ]
    *** ANTE [dealer 5] ***
    Seat 6 - TRENCH_FOOT $1925 in chips
    Seat 7 - JVNF18 $10840 in chips
    Seat 8 - MADARN $9040 in chips
    Seat 9 - BONES826 $5905 in chips
    Seat 1 - GMCZ71 $4925.50 in chips
    Seat 2 - SUPERIOR $5039.50 in chips
    Seat 3 - M8TRIX $3652 in chips
    Seat 4 - SEATTLE24 $3421 in chips
    Seat 5 - GBGOTMEFADED $4468 in chips
    GMCZ71 - Ante $25
    SUPERIOR - Ante $25
    M8TRIX - Ante $25
    SEATTLE24 - Ante $25
    GBGOTMEFADED - Ante $25
    TRENCH_FOOT - Ante $25
    JVNF18 - Ante $25
    MADARN - Ante $25
    BONES826 - Ante $25
    TRENCH_FOOT - Post small blind $100
    JVNF18 - Post big blind $200
    SUPERIOR - Pocket [Ad,Qc]
    MADARN - Folds
    BONES826 - Folds
    GMCZ71 - Folds
    SUPERIOR - Raises $200 to $600
    M8TRIX - Folds
    SEATTLE24 - Folds
    GBGOTMEFADED - Folds
    TRENCH_FOOT - All-In(Raise) $500 to $1900
    JVNF18 - Folds
    SUPERIOR - Calls $1300
    *** FLOP [Qd,As,Jd] ***
    *** TURN [Qd,As,Jd,Kc] ***
    *** RIVER [Qd,As,Jd,Kc,2h] ***
    SUPERIOR - Show cards [Ad,Qc]
    TRENCH_FOOT - Show cards [10d,Ah]
    *** RESULT ***
    Total Pot($4225)
    Board [Qd,As,Jd,Kc,2h]
    GMCZ71 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    SUPERIOR - HI:Two pair, aces and queens [Ad,Qc - B:As,P:Ad,B:Qd,P:Qc,B:Kc]
    M8TRIX - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    SEATTLE24 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    GBGOTMEFADED - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    TRENCH_FOOT - Total ($4225) All-In HI$4225)Straight, ten to ace [10d,Ah - B:As,B:Kc,B:Qd,B:Jd,P:10d]
    JVNF18 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    MADARN - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    BONES826 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    ################################################## ######
    Stage #146044617: Holdem Multi ARP Tournament No Limit $100 [ 2005-06-27 18:02:57 ]
    *** ANTE [dealer 9] ***
    Seat 1 - GMCZ71 $4425.50 in chips
    Seat 2 - SUPERIOR $3039.50 in chips
    Seat 3 - M8TRIX $3552 in chips
    Seat 4 - SEATTLE24 $8517 in chips
    Seat 5 - GBGOTMEFADED $4368 in chips
    Seat 6 - TRENCH_FOOT $3950 in chips
    Seat 7 - JVNF18 $11565 in chips
    Seat 8 - MADARN $8640 in chips
    Seat 9 - BONES826 $1159 in chips
    GMCZ71 - Ante $25
    SUPERIOR - Ante $25
    M8TRIX - Ante $25
    SEATTLE24 - Ante $25
    GBGOTMEFADED - Ante $25
    TRENCH_FOOT - Ante $25
    JVNF18 - Ante $25
    MADARN - Ante $25
    BONES826 - Ante $25
    GMCZ71 - Post small blind $100
    SUPERIOR - Post big blind $200
    SUPERIOR - Pocket [As,Qs]
    M8TRIX - Folds
    SEATTLE24 - Calls $200
    GBGOTMEFADED - Folds
    TRENCH_FOOT - Folds
    JVNF18 - Folds
    MADARN - Raises $200 to $800
    BONES826 - All-In(Raise) $800 to $1134
    GMCZ71 - Folds
    SUPERIOR - Raises $934 to $3014
    SEATTLE24 - Folds
    MADARN - Folds
    SUPERIOR - returned ($1880) : not called
    *** FLOP [Ac,8h,3h] ***
    *** TURN [Ac,8h,3h,2h] ***
    *** RIVER [Ac,8h,3h,2h,5h] ***
    SUPERIOR - Show cards [As,Qs]
    BONES826 - Show cards [Ad,10h]
    *** RESULT ***
    Total Pot($3593)
    Board [Ac,8h,3h,2h,5h]
    GMCZ71 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    SUPERIOR - HI:One pair, aces [As,Qs - P:As,B:Ac,P:Qs,B:8h,B:5h]
    M8TRIX - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    SEATTLE24 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    GBGOTMEFADED - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    TRENCH_FOOT - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    JVNF18 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    MADARN - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    BONES826 - Total ($3593) All-In HI$3593)Flush, ten high [Ad,10h - P:10h,B:8h,B:5h,B:3h,B:2h]
  2. #2
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    bad beat post anyone?
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    The sooner you can realize that calling an all-in bet before the flop is no guarantee to win chips the better player you will become. Even aces get beat
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  5. #5
    the only way to play them differently was to fold preflop.


    beyond that they both came down to a coin flip and unfortunately you lost both
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotalus
    the only way to play them differently was to fold preflop.


    beyond that they both came down to a coin flip and unfortunately you lost both
    They were not coinflips. He was ~75% leader goin in.

    Either he just wants us to pity him. or he dosnt really understand the object of poker.
  7. #7
    BAD BEAT ALEERT BAD BEAT ALERT!
  8. #8
    I'm just trying to figure out if I'm correct making those pushes, or if I should find a better place than with AQ.
  9. #9
    Generally I'd say fold the second one if you had a bigger stack (20xBB+), but you have to play here, plus maybe MADARN was very agg, what could he have there that he would fold? very low PP? strange play.
  10. #10
    IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO TAKE A 3:1 PF ADV WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO WAIT FOR ???

    THESE ARE BAD BEAT POSTS, PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

    If you had won both of these hands would you have still posted them asking for advice ?
    Poker is all about the long long long long long long long term . . .
    Barney's back . . . back again . . .
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Toasty
    If you had won both of these hands would you have still posted them asking for advice ?
    Well said If you don't realise that your posting bad beats, your probably tilted. If you don't realise your tilted, your going to lose money.
  12. #12
    the first hand was fine, the second hand was a definite fold. there are better hands to put your chips in behind a raise and a reraise all in than AQ especially at a full table.

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