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    Default FR. QQ in BB , Sqz pot Ott.

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 100.28 BB (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
    Hero (SB): 103.12 BB
    BB: 66.16 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
    UTG: 113.48 BB (VPIP: 38.89, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
    UTG+1: 163.68 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 18.80, 3Bet Preflop: 8.57, Hands: 120)
    UTG+2: 60.12 BB (VPIP: 15.12, PFR: 12.45, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 261)
    MP: 220.28 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 14.55, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 55)
    MP+1: 123.32 BB (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 5.77, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
    CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.75, PFR: 18.36, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 456)

    Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q Q

    UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 2 BB, fold, CO calls 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, BB calls 9 BB, fold, MP calls 8 BB, fold

    Flop: (34 BB, 3 players) 2 5 9
    Hero bets 22.4 BB, fold, MP calls 22.4 BB

    Turn: (78.8 BB, 2 players) 3
    Hero?

    don't know much about villain 45 hands) . especially not in a spot like this. My main question is , can i ever bet/fold turn? or should i simply shove since i have about a potbet left. I gues she could have a hand like TT or JJ with a heart. Maybe AK with a heart. thnx
  2. #2
    b/f turn is absurd based on stacks.

    bet flop more so turn shove is standard. As played, I guess I just shove now anyway.
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    On the flop you need a plan. The plan should be:

    1) sizing for three streets and three bets
    2) sizing for two streets and two bets

    Which one was your plan? Stick with it imo. If that was two streets then shove.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    On the flop you need a plan. The plan should be:

    1) sizing for three streets and three bets
    2) sizing for two streets and two bets

    Which one was your plan? Stick with it imo. If that was two streets then shove.
    IF the pot was HU i would have gone for 3 streets. this wasn't the case so i was basically betting the flop and planning to shove any non A, K turncard
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    just bet all of the money. He probably can't' have kk/aa and a lot of the fd's push the flop to your mammoth c-bet.
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    that's a pretty big cbet, if you're going to go that big then you should consider simply overbet shoving.
    you can't bet-fold that turn given stack and pot sizes. Put the chips in.
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    I think that you should bet to 65BB or go all-in, because the opponent have a chance to make a flush on the turn.
    In other way in poker is more important to get money as much as you can and be safety on your position, than to risk and to don't get nothing.
    So for my opinion, in this situation the best move is to make big raise or go all-in.
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    no one likes a turn c/f ? based on action and stakes i incline to think we have no reason to shove here.
    All posts are just my own opinion about a hand or a general situation... not advices on how you should play...
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    As soon as there is a possible flush on the table it can be very difficult sometimes to see past it. I have seen so many people checking the turn in situations like this and then folding to a bet on the turn or the river. The min raise from UTG was probably a small to mid pair and the call from MP could be no more than a value call especially given his stack size. When it gets down to you and MP I would be playing the hand aggressively. Your bet on the flop was okay and I would bet out again on the turn and perhaps even push at that stage to try and stop the runner runner flush.
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