any questions

Originally Posted by HalvSame

I find that I'm bleeding chips out of the BB in 3/6+ where alot of the btn/co stealers aren't total idiots. Can you say something smart about blind defense?

reraise alot. if you ever flat call c/r scary flops, lead at random times too, but also lead with good hands some to balance

Originally Posted by benny999

i've got that problem too halvsame especially just calling them.

i have another question...do you study regulars in PT?
i sorta assume you do, but can you give any examples of stuff you look for? I think I need to start doing this.

of course, but really only if im having trouble with someone. looking at how they played in big pots is the easiest way. other things include knowing their AF numbers and how much they open raise from different spots is helpful for knowing when to reraise

Gabe, what type of flops are you c/r'ing and with what type of hands?

Here's a common spot. The BTN opens and you call with 89s. The flop come 942. Is this a flop you c/r or a flop you like to lead?

I rarely if ever c/r. What are the benefits of c/r'ing? Would you agree that getting to see more turns b/c of the threat is one of them?

normally id fold 89s to just a button raise

i wouldnt c/r a pair there though. also, that board isnt scary so i dont think i would c/r bluff it either. if board was like 567 two tone, thats a great board to c/r with any hand you call with (even KQ type hands). if board was 9 high with 89s i probably lead and check call 50 50

when you started out moving up the stakes, how many tables were you able to effectively play at one time?

you said earlier

"ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS LOG HOURS AND THINK ANALYTICALLY ABOUT EVERY HAND YOU PLAY AND IMPLEMENT YOUR FINDINGS.

how can you do this and still multi table? i know thinking analytically every time is just an ideal to try and achieve...but i was wondering if it would help my game more to play only 2 tables and reduce my hourly rate...

thanks for this sweet thread.

the analytical thinking comes AFTER you play a session. like when u are sitting around bored or right before u fall asleep is when you think about that shit.

i played 4/5 tables when i played $100nl and just moved up slowly from there. i dont remember specifics

What would be the number one thing you would tell $100NL players to work on for making that first big jump to $200NL?

Did you use pokerstove or any other programs to help when analyzing PT at anytime, ala: Townsends video on CR, to learn about equity's?

Did you ever spend a little bit of your BR while grinding to enjoy the fruits or was it strictly targeting the next level?

I'm just tryign out the move from sng/mtts to short handed ring, so excuse the noobishness of questions.

How do I prevent a hand like JJ from turning into air?

If I'm holding AA, should I be re-re-raising, or should I just call? What about QQ?

Limping/calling/raising with PPs - any advice?

Can you give an example of notes and abbreviations you use when noting players to develop reads? In other words, notes specific to what actions and how you abbrv to save space? 3bet tendencies, cbet, amounts bet, etc.
Maybe a cut and pasted example of a random player.

Originally Posted by gabe

Originally Posted by givememyleg

Could you explain just about everything you do? For example, if someone was sitting next to you while you were playing could you answer if they were asking "why did you do that?" to everything? I find one of my biggest problems is I do something and someone asks why and I say "man I really don't know." I imagine it gets better over time but is everything pretty much automatic?

r u a bot?

ps if this makes no sense it's cuz i havent slept in 28 hours.

sure i could answer, but some portion of the answers would be me saying "poker instinct!"

When you get back to VA after whatever summer travels you have planned, could I hang with you for a bit and pretty much do the above?

Thoughts on HU cash? When in your poker career did you start playing HU? Is it a big part of your profit?

I play 2/4nl but started practicing HU at .5/1 and it seems like a really really high winrate is possible if you use game selection.

HU also seems to require more effort and more thinking than 6max. HU play should help handreading at 6max?

sorry for missing these questions the first time around, i was out of town and someone just reminded me of this thread

Originally Posted by baron_greenback

I'm just tryign out the move from sng/mtts to short handed ring, so excuse the noobishness of questions.

How do I prevent a hand like JJ from turning into air?

If I'm holding AA, should I be re-re-raising, or should I just call? What about QQ?

Limping/calling/raising with PPs - any advice?

about JJ - i play alot of air so when i get JJ its like the nuts. hard for me to give a good answer that would help you here because it doens't really fit my style of play.

you make money from bad players mostly because they call too much. reraise AA and QQ definitely.

depends on the table. if no one is raising and they call too much, limping makes alot more sense that raising.

Originally Posted by Silly String

Can you give an example of notes and abbreviations you use when noting players to develop reads? In other words, notes specific to what actions and how you abbrv to save space? 3bet tendencies, cbet, amounts bet, etc.
Maybe a cut and pasted example of a random player.

i try not to focus on preflop too much, but i will write general things like '3 bets light.' i try to define the player as a whole from what i know, then later ill hope what i wrote in the past was accurate enough that i can make specific assumptions close enough. this backfires sometimes obv but seems to work ok.

Originally Posted by JeffreyGB

Originally Posted by gabe

Originally Posted by givememyleg

Could you explain just about everything you do? For example, if someone was sitting next to you while you were playing could you answer if they were asking "why did you do that?" to everything? I find one of my biggest problems is I do something and someone asks why and I say "man I really don't know." I imagine it gets better over time but is everything pretty much automatic?

r u a bot?

ps if this makes no sense it's cuz i havent slept in 28 hours.

sure i could answer, but some portion of the answers would be me saying "poker instinct!"

When you get back to VA after whatever summer travels you have planned, could I hang with you for a bit and pretty much do the above?

how about you come on next ftr trip and ill bring my laptop or you bring one??

Originally Posted by Harry

Thoughts on HU cash? When in your poker career did you start playing HU? Is it a big part of your profit?

I play 2/4nl but started practicing HU at .5/1 and it seems like a really really high winrate is possible if you use game selection.

HU also seems to require more effort and more thinking than 6max. HU play should help handreading at 6max?

when i started really getting good at reading people my HU game increased 10 fold. i got started in it during party days when i hated joining wait lists and would start tables by myself.

if you are a 2/4 player and playing .5/1 for HU learning purposes, screw game selection. sit against some TAGs and learn how to pwn them and you will be a much better poker player.

yea it definitely helps handreading. also i cant play as many tables when i have a few HU tables mixed in because i have to focus more. if you want to play HU at low stakes im game anytime... although i have no prob taking your money (ask sauce!! zing)

haha I'd rather play against small stakes TAGs where I can become a better player while still being +EV.

I don't use game selection at .5/1 but what I was thinking is that once you become a decent HU player, you can probably make sick money at mid stakes+ using game selection, since you are directly against the fish in every hand, instead of 6max where you are sharing the fish with other regs.

yea youre right, although i hate people that do that.

yea but it's all about the scrilla

The thing about playing very good HU players is the ranges get so wide that anyone who is a good hand reader at 1/2 gets completely lost on what to put someone on.

Question:
I moved to 400nl recently and have run into some hyperaggro regs that im not use to playing at all. Clearly, im getting into situations im not familiar with and figuring out what to do in them will take some experience (Pretty much when to play back and what situations should i call down thin).

Any advice on how to handle hyperaggro threebetting ranges and general sloppiness?

i.e. I ran into a guy who was calling threebets of mine with all his sc's and suited gappers. Clearly, this is super exploitable but im not sure exactly how i can (Should i be threebetting just much tighter, should i also be threebetting low cards because he's not going to get any credit on flops with high cards, or should i threebet higher cards so i can felt any pair?)

did you have any money stuck in neteller?

if you dont like variance since u just moved up, just play tight

otherwise go to war....

him calling all your 3 bets with decent cards (if he has position) isnt as exploitable as you think if he plays well postflop. when u 3 bet him, overplay TPTK (like if you 3 bet from blinds with KJ, he calls, 259 flop, you bet he calls, J turn, you value push everytime). also start taking this same line with weak draws like bare overcards. make him adjust to you.

I'm experimenting with my standard c-bet size... but does it really matter? For example, here are my current standard c-bets:

20 into 28
24 into 32
28 into 40

What kind of effect, if any, would increasing it to the follow have:

24 into 28
28 into 32
32 into 40

It may just be in my mind (i've only increased them for the last 800 hands or so) but it seems to be inducing passivity into my opponents, if that makes sense.

think about it......

when you see people make small cbets, dont you bluff raise more? dont you bluff raise less when they make big cbets?

like if someone bets 1 into 25, thats good spot to bluff raise, and if someone bets 50 into 25 thats a bad spot. these are extreme examples but they show the psychological impact of bet sizing. so bet big when u dont want to get raised, and bet smallish when you dont mind (either you are bluffing or your hand is awesome)

sauce might be able to comment on this too...

when i first started playing poker my standard cbet was like 1/2-2/3 of the pot.

then the games got better and i bet 2/3

then the games got better and i bet 3/4

then the games got better and i bet 4/5

now im just saying fuck it and going all in for 13 times the pot if i have a pair or a draw.

Originally Posted by gabe

think about it......

when you see people make small cbets, dont you bluff raise more? dont you bluff raise less when they make big cbets?

like if someone bets 1 into 25, thats good spot to bluff raise, and if someone bets 50 into 25 thats a bad spot. these are extreme examples but they show the psychological impact of bet sizing. so bet big when u dont want to get raised, and bet smallish when you dont mind (either you are bluffing or your hand is awesome)

sauce might be able to comment on this too...

I really agree with this. I know in HU you have to c/r a lot of flops, and idk why (obviously psychological) but it takes more balls for me to raise a pot cbet than a 2/3rd or 3/4th one.

What you longest break even stretch?

Why do 3/6 regs own me?

Cuz u lick shoes

Originally Posted by Harry

What you longest break even stretch?

Why do 3/6 regs own me?

100k hands, ish

post more hands?

Originally Posted by gabe

Originally Posted by JeffreyGB

When you get back to VA after whatever summer travels you have planned, could I hang with you for a bit and pretty much do the above?

how about you come on next ftr trip and ill bring my laptop or you bring one??

I wish...still fairly new at work - can't take the time off that soon.

I've been getting owned alot recently with AK after 3-betting vs regs. I've been c-betting most flops and getting raised pretty consistently. I started checking real low flops since I figured they're calling any PP, which is a big part of their range, but I'm also getting raised on boards up to Q-hi.

Since these hands aren't going to showdown, I can't tell if I'm just being easily exploited since AK and AQ are such a huge part of my 3-bet range, or if they are just hitting the flop a lot.

Should I be checking more flops after 3-betting?

I have a nasty leak in my game and it goes something like this:
eff stacks 100BBs, position CO.
Hole cards:
UTG limps, folded to me I raise to 5xBB, Bu calls, UTG calls
Flop J high, or Q high,
I cbet say 10-12BBs, Bu calls, UTG folds and I c/f blank turn.

Do you have any tips to help me stop bleeding chips with these sorts of hands?

How in the world do you 12tbl 6max?

Do you have any secrets you'd like to share? Do you use and scripts? Did you work your way up by adding an additional table at a time?

no scripts

just started with 4 then added one because it was boring repeat repeat repeat

What is your BR? What stakes do u play nowadays?

$500, .5/1 stud and some razz

RazzHU4Rollz?

here is my question - Who hacked your account? Your ruining your WPP count and i thought that was pretty important to you.....

just playin' - this is a great read -