3 bet pot with KQ... 200nl

Villain is xxpoboleroxx, decent winner in the games

Ive got him at 30/21

He opens the button wide and doesnt fold to many three bets.

No out of line dynamic between us atm and I dont have any reason to think he may think Im light here.

Thoughts on river??


No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($204.35)
Hero (BB) ($261.90)
UTG ($200)
MP ($142.10)
CO ($225.95)
Button ($200)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, Q
3 folds, Button bets $6, 1 fold, Hero raises $18, Button calls $14

Flop: ($41) 10, 4, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $22, Button calls $22

Turn: ($85) A (2 players)
Hero bets $41, Button calls $41

River: ($167) Q (2 players)
Hero ???
preflop 3bet was to $20

c/f?

Any merit to shoving as a bluff?.... like what can he have here

I would just check and hope he checks down Tx or some low pair.

After he calls the turn he can have flushes sometimes. A lot of people will also float this type of flop with AJ/AQ, so I wouldn't be surprised if he had AQ here sometimes.

Could even have A8/AT that isn't jamming on the flush card turn.

c/f and hope for showdown I think.

Yeah I don't think he's folding anything better except like maaaaybe QT

The entire hand seems pretty meh but I think both shoving river and c/fing are about equal.

I think shoving river as bluff is absolutely terrible. I'd bet $83 for value and fold to a shove.

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

The entire hand seems pretty meh but I think both shoving river and c/fing are about equal.

I agree with most of this. Although I think c/f is better than shoving.

I would c/fold as well and I really don't think there's any value on this river except as a bluff.

Originally Posted by Ravageur

I would c/fold as well and I really don't think there's any value on this river except as a bluff.

Yah this. You need a really bad image/villain needs to be a big station to get value here imo.

Originally Posted by griffey24

Yah this. You need a really bad image/villain needs to be a big station to get value here imo.

I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be folding any pair for $83 more vs me on this river.

Why do you feel compelled to 3-bet with KQo OOP? Are you trying to win a tiny preflop pot? What if he calls or worse reraises? You have to fold to a 4-bet with that weak hand. If he calls, you're behind. It's that simple. You're only going to hit a K or Q 33% of the flops, and what if an ace accompanies it? 67% of the time, you've forced yourself to c-bet with nothing OOP and praying for a fold. Does that sound like a good strategy to you?