25/50 NL on stars

Discuss...

see you there

Quite fishy, but I suggest you try the 100NL games if you have the BR needed since the play is almost as bad there.

Originally Posted by Al4As

Quite fishy, but I suggest you try the 100NL games if you have the BR needed since the play is almost as bad there.

Originally Posted by midas06

see you there

Watch you there!

Originally Posted by Al4As

Quite fishy, but I suggest you try the 100NL games if you have the BR needed since the play is almost as bad there.

They are talking about 25/50 blinds, so the buyin would be $5000.

Originally Posted by Al4As

Quite fishy, but I suggest you try the 100NL games if you have the BR needed since the play is almost as bad there.

OWN3D

it was filled with fish the first day, it will be interested to see how it develops

Thanks for the precision Arkana

you going to pwn H@ll itdepends? :P

Originally Posted by Al4As

Quite fishy, but I suggest you try the 100NL games if you have the BR needed since the play is almost as bad there.

I just leave the tables open all day and check the hand histories through out the day.
im amazed how ofted big pots are won by big hand vs semi bluff or total bluff.
this game is very aggressive, with almost every pot raised pre flop, and very little limping.

this one had me scratching my head a little...
PokerStars Game #5468140389: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/05 - 23:51:44 (ET)
Table 'Katharina II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: steamraise ($5807 in chips)
Seat 2: Empire2000 ($6347 in chips)
Seat 3: animal4414 ($1800 in chips)
Seat 4: DuyTheMaster ($10439 in chips)
Seat 6: hazards21 ($7273 in chips)
Seat 7: copi ($2619 in chips)
Seat 8: LittleV1 ($3497 in chips)
Seat 9: KRISTEN03 ($3683 in chips)
Empire2000: posts small blind $25
animal4414: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
DuyTheMaster: folds
hazards21: raises $150 to $200
copi: folds
LittleV1: folds
KRISTEN03: raises $440 to $640
steamraise: folds
Empire2000: folds
animal4414: folds
hazards21: calls $440
*** FLOP *** [6s 5s 9c]
hazards21: checks
KRISTEN03: bets $1400
hazards21: raises $5233 to $6633 and is all-in
KRISTEN03: calls $1643 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [6s 5s 9c] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [6s 5s 9c Qd] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hazards21: shows [Js As] (high card Ace)
KRISTEN03: shows [5h Ah] (a pair of Fives)
KRISTEN03 collected $7438 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7441 | Rake $3
Board [6s 5s 9c Qd 2c]
Seat 1: steamraise (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Empire2000 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: animal4414 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: DuyTheMaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: hazards21 showed [Js As] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 7: copi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: LittleV1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: KRISTEN03 showed [5h Ah] and won ($7438) with a pair of Fives

sickening hand:

PokerStars Game #5477596096: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/06 - 22:48:55 (ET)
Table 'Pafuri' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: calluch ($12817.60 in chips)
Seat 2: JERRRY ($5645 in chips)
Seat 3: TheBusDriver ($7562.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Hold_emNL ($5000 in chips)
Seat 5: H@££INGGOL ($5976 in chips)
Seat 6: captZEEbo ($7213 in chips)
Seat 7: Nicole_Katz ($2144 in chips)
Seat 8: StackChipz71 ($4700 in chips)
Seat 9: Spoony135 ($4200 in chips)
H@££INGGOL: posts small blind $25
captZEEbo: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Nicole_Katz: folds
StackChipz71: folds
Spoony135: folds
calluch: raises $100 to $150
JERRRY: calls $150
TheBusDriver: folds
Hold_emNL: calls $150
H@££INGGOL: folds
captZEEbo: folds
*** FLOP *** [8s 9c 9h]
calluch: checks
JERRRY: checks
Hold_emNL: checks
*** TURN *** [8s 9c 9h] [2d]
calluch: checks
JERRRY: bets $300
Hold_emNL: raises $820 to $1120
calluch: calls $1120
JERRRY: folds
*** RIVER *** [8s 9c 9h 2d] [Kc]
calluch: bets $600
Hold_emNL: raises $3130 to $3730 and is all-in
calluch: calls $3130
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hold_emNL: shows [8d 8c] (a full house, Eights full of Nines)
calluch: shows [9s 9d] (four of a kind, Nines)
calluch collected $10522 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10525 | Rake $3
Board [8s 9c 9h 2d Kc]
Seat 1: calluch showed [9s 9d] and won ($10522) with four of a kind, Nines
Seat 2: JERRRY folded on the Turn
Seat 3: TheBusDriver folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Hold_emNL (button) showed [8d 8c] and lost with a full house, Eights full of Nines
Seat 5: H@££INGGOL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: captZEEbo (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Nicole_Katz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: StackChipz71 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Spoony135 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Im on the list. I will be shor-stack ninjaing if I get on.

Alot of these guys seem to open so loose, shortstack hit and run could prove very profitable.

He's in. GL Aces.

Who is that guy NexEternity? He seems pretty laggy - I watch the big game on stars occasionally, but I haven't seen him before.

Originally Posted by Jimmy Mac

Alot of these guys seem to open so loose, shortstack hit and run could prove very profitable.

Bingo

GL sir.

h@ll 3 tabling with 2 1/2 buyins up when ive just looked.
gl aces :P

Looks like a pretty tough game overall with a couple of huge fish.

Originally Posted by mcatdog

Looks like a pretty tough game overall with a couple of huge fish.

i thought that

god i love the br to sit behind H@ll at that table

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

Originally Posted by mcatdog

Looks like a pretty tough game overall with a couple of huge fish.

i thought that

god i love the br to sit behind H@ll at that table

Just need to pick up a hand one time he raises. Had AA utg raise to 150 folds around..O well

hopped on table nemo too.

PokerStars Game #5478783846: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 00:20:45 (ET)
Table 'Nemo' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Spoony135 ($10126 in chips)
Seat 2: Hold_emNL ($4750 in chips)
Seat 3: NexEternity ($5000 in chips)
Seat 4: TheBusDriver ($7513 in chips)
Seat 5: SLYGREEK ($4382.50 in chips)
Seat 6: H@££INGGOL ($6817 in chips)
Seat 7: WDPS ($7068.80 in chips)
Seat 8: ilikeaces86 ($1375 in chips)
Seat 9: check@call_y ($7238 in chips)
check@call_y: posts small blind $25
Spoony135: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ilikeaces86 [Qc Qs]
Hold_emNL: folds
NexEternity: folds
TheBusDriver: folds
SLYGREEK: raises $200 to $250
H@££INGGOL: folds
WDPS: folds
ilikeaces86: raises $1125 to $1375 and is all-in
check@call_y: folds
Spoony135: folds
SLYGREEK: calls $1125
*** FLOP *** [7s Kc 7d]
*** TURN *** [7s Kc 7d] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [7s Kc 7d 4h] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SLYGREEK: shows [7c 8h] (three of a kind, Sevens)
ilikeaces86: mucks hand
SLYGREEK collected $2822 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2825 | Rake $3
Board [7s Kc 7d 4h 5d]
Seat 1: Spoony135 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Hold_emNL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: NexEternity folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: TheBusDriver folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SLYGREEK showed [7c 8h] and won ($2822) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 6: H@££INGGOL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: WDPS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ilikeaces86 (button) mucked [Qc Qs]
Seat 9: check@call_y (small blind) folded before Flop

SLYGREEK: i like 7/8

Originally Posted by mcatdog

Looks like a pretty tough game overall with a couple of huge fish.

This is the guy I was talking about when I posted this comment. What you have here?

PokerStars Game #5478783846: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 00:20:45 (ET)
Table 'Nemo' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Spoony135 ($10126 in chips)
Seat 2: Hold_emNL ($4750 in chips)
Seat 3: NexEternity ($5000 in chips)
Seat 4: TheBusDriver ($7513 in chips)
Seat 5: SLYGREEK ($4382.50 in chips)
Seat 6: H@££INGGOL ($6817 in chips)
Seat 7: WDPS ($7068.80 in chips)
Seat 8: ilikeaces86 ($1375 in chips)
Seat 9: check@call_y ($7238 in chips)
check@call_y: posts small blind $25
Spoony135: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Hold_emNL: folds
NexEternity: folds
TheBusDriver: folds
SLYGREEK: raises $200 to $250
H@££INGGOL: folds
WDPS: folds
ilikeaces86: raises $1125 to $1375 and is all-in
check@call_y: folds
Spoony135: folds
SLYGREEK: calls $1125
*** FLOP *** [7s Kc 7d]
*** TURN *** [7s Kc 7d] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [7s Kc 7d 4h] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SLYGREEK: shows [7c 8h] (three of a kind, Sevens)
ilikeaces86: mucks hand
SLYGREEK collected $2822 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2825 | Rake $3
Board [7s Kc 7d 4h 5d]
Seat 1: Spoony135 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Hold_emNL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: NexEternity folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: TheBusDriver folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SLYGREEK showed [7c 8h] and won ($2822) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 6: H@££INGGOL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: WDPS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ilikeaces86 (button) mucked
Seat 9: check@call_y (small blind) folded before Flop

And he gives it right back to H@LL...

PokerStars Game #5478811850: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 00:23:17 (ET)
Table 'Nemo' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Spoony135 ($10051 in chips)
Seat 2: Hold_emNL ($4925 in chips)
Seat 3: NexEternity ($4950 in chips)
Seat 4: TheBusDriver ($7413 in chips)
Seat 5: SLYGREEK ($5904.50 in chips)
Seat 6: H@££INGGOL ($6992 in chips)
Seat 7: WDPS ($7068.80 in chips)
Seat 8: ilikeaces86 ($1500 in chips)
Seat 9: check@call_y ($7213 in chips)
NexEternity: posts small blind $25
TheBusDriver: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
SLYGREEK: calls $50
H@££INGGOL: raises $150 to $200
WDPS: folds
ilikeaces86: folds
check@call_y: folds
Spoony135: folds
Hold_emNL: folds
NexEternity: folds
TheBusDriver: folds
SLYGREEK: calls $150
*** FLOP *** [3h Kd 2d]
SLYGREEK: checks
H@££INGGOL: bets $300
SLYGREEK: calls $300
*** TURN *** [3h Kd 2d] [Qd]
SLYGREEK: checks
H@££INGGOL: bets $750
SLYGREEK: calls $750
*** RIVER *** [3h Kd 2d Qd] [Jd]
SLYGREEK: checks
H@££INGGOL: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SLYGREEK: shows [3s 5d] (a flush, King high)
H@££INGGOL: shows [3d 6d] (a flush, King high - Six higher)
H@££INGGOL collected $2572 from pot
H@££INGGOL is sitting out
H@££INGGOL has returned
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2575 | Rake $3
Board [3h Kd 2d Qd Jd]
Seat 1: Spoony135 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Hold_emNL (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: NexEternity (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: TheBusDriver (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: SLYGREEK showed [3s 5d] and lost with a flush, King high
Seat 6: H@££INGGOL showed [3d 6d] and won ($2572) with a flush, King high
Seat 7: WDPS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ilikeaces86 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: check@call_y folded before Flop (didn't bet)

see above your post

looks like you sat one chair too far to the left, that guy on ur right is pwning on katharina

haha, way to go lee

PokerStars Game #5478861378: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 00:27:48 (ET)
Table 'Katharina II' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: Hold_emNL ($4850 in chips)
Seat 3: Nicole_Katz ($950 in chips)
Seat 5: arbianight ($19390 in chips)
Seat 6: ilikeaces86 ($1647 in chips)
Seat 7: TheKidJNel15 ($850 in chips)
Seat 8: Empire2000 ($6319 in chips)
Seat 9: NexEternity ($13658.50 in chips)
NexEternity: posts small blind $25
Hold_emNL: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Nicole_Katz: calls $50
arbianight: folds
ilikeaces86: raises $125 to $175
TheKidJNel15: folds
Empire2000: folds
NexEternity: folds
Hold_emNL: folds
Nicole_Katz: calls $125
*** FLOP *** [Js 7d 9s]
Nicole_Katz: checks
ilikeaces86: bets $420
Nicole_Katz: raises $355 to $775 and is all-in
ilikeaces86: calls $355
*** TURN *** [Js 7d 9s] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [Js 7d 9s Kc] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Nicole_Katz: shows [6s 7s] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
ilikeaces86: shows [Qs Qd] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
ilikeaces86 collected $1972 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1975 | Rake $3
Board [Js 7d 9s Kc Kh]
Seat 2: Hold_emNL (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Nicole_Katz showed [6s 7s] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 5: arbianight folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ilikeaces86 showed [Qs Qd] and won ($1972) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 7: TheKidJNel15 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Empire2000 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: NexEternity (small blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #5478946522: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 00:35:45 (ET)
Table 'Nemo' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Spoony135 ($4800 in chips)
Seat 2: Hold_emNL ($4775 in chips)
Seat 3: NexEternity ($5569 in chips)
Seat 4: TheBusDriver ($7263 in chips)
Seat 5: SLYGREEK ($13815 in chips)
Seat 7: WDPS ($5340.80 in chips)
Seat 8: ilikeaces86 ($1375 in chips)
Seat 9: check@call_y ($7213 in chips)
ilikeaces86: posts small blind $25
check@call_y: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Spoony135: folds
Hold_emNL: raises $100 to $150
NexEternity: calls $150
TheBusDriver: folds
SLYGREEK: calls $150
WDPS: folds
ilikeaces86: raises $1225 to $1375 and is all-in
check@call_y: folds
Hold_emNL: folds
NexEternity: folds
Spoony135 said, "this should be grosssssssssss"
SLYGREEK: calls $1225
*** FLOP *** [Qs 8s Th]
*** TURN *** [Qs 8s Th] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 8s Th 8c] [Jd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ilikeaces86: shows [Ad Qh] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
SLYGREEK: shows [Ac 3h] (a pair of Eights)
ilikeaces86 collected $3097 from pot
SLYGREEK said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3100 | Rake $3
Board [Qs 8s Th 8c Jd]
Seat 1: Spoony135 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Hold_emNL folded before Flop
Seat 3: NexEternity folded before Flop
Seat 4: TheBusDriver folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SLYGREEK showed [Ac 3h] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 7: WDPS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ilikeaces86 (small blind) showed [Ad Qh] and won ($3097) with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 9: check@call_y (big blind) folded before Flop

wow this guy is bad..

PokerStars Game #5479088763: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 00:49:36 (ET)
Table 'Nemo' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Spoony135 ($5797 in chips)
Seat 2: Hold_emNL ($4950 in chips)
Seat 3: NexEternity ($5918 in chips)
Seat 4: TheBusDriver ($7610 in chips)
Seat 5: SLYGREEK ($11429 in chips)
Seat 6: H@££INGGOL ($9552 in chips)
Seat 7: WDPS ($4865.80 in chips)
Seat 8: ilikeaces86 ($2972 in chips)
Seat 9: check@call_y ($6563 in chips)
Hold_emNL: posts small blind $25
NexEternity: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ilikeaces86 [Ac Qc]
TheBusDriver: folds
SLYGREEK: calls $50
H@££INGGOL: folds
WDPS: folds
ilikeaces86: raises $125 to $175
check@call_y: folds
Spoony135: folds
Hold_emNL: folds
NexEternity: folds
SLYGREEK: calls $125
*** FLOP *** [Ad 6h 7s]
SLYGREEK: checks
ilikeaces86: bets $350
SLYGREEK: calls $350
*** TURN *** [Ad 6h 7s] [2c]
SLYGREEK: checks
ilikeaces86: bets $800
SLYGREEK: calls $800
*** RIVER *** [Ad 6h 7s 2c] [Ah]
SLYGREEK: checks
ilikeaces86: bets $1647 and is all-in
SLYGREEK: calls $1647
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ilikeaces86: shows [Ac Qc] (three of a kind, Aces)
SLYGREEK: mucks hand
ilikeaces86 collected $6016 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6019 | Rake $3
Board [Ad 6h 7s 2c Ah]
Seat 1: Spoony135 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Hold_emNL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: NexEternity (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: TheBusDriver folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SLYGREEK mucked [7h Jh]
Seat 6: H@££INGGOL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: WDPS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ilikeaces86 showed [Ac Qc] and won ($6016) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 9: check@call_y folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Is it really possible for a player to be this bad? 64o no good, bro.

PokerStars Game #5479253424: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 01:06:55 (ET)
Table 'Nemo' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Spoony135 ($4975 in chips)
Seat 2: Hold_emNL ($5922 in chips)
Seat 3: NexEternity ($9689 in chips)
Seat 4: TheBusDriver ($6960 in chips)
Seat 5: SLYGREEK ($1811 in chips)
Seat 6: H@££INGGOL ($10624 in chips)
Seat 7: WDPS ($8384.80 in chips)
Seat 8: Empire2000 ($5672 in chips)
Seat 9: check@call_y ($6735 in chips)
WDPS: posts small blind $25
Empire2000: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
check@call_y: folds
Spoony135: folds
Hold_emNL: folds
NexEternity: raises $125 to $175
TheBusDriver: folds
SLYGREEK: calls $175
H@££INGGOL: calls $175
WDPS: folds
Empire2000: folds
*** FLOP *** [3h 7s Js]
NexEternity: bets $400
SLYGREEK: calls $400
H@££INGGOL: folds
*** TURN *** [3h 7s Js] [Kd]
NexEternity: checks
SLYGREEK: bets $350
NexEternity: calls $350
*** RIVER *** [3h 7s Js Kd] [6h]
NexEternity: checks
SLYGREEK: bets $886 and is all-in
NexEternity: calls $886
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SLYGREEK: shows [6s 4c] (a pair of Sixes)
NexEternity: shows [7c Tc] (a pair of Sevens)
NexEternity collected $3869 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3872 | Rake $3
Board [3h 7s Js Kd 6h]
Seat 1: Spoony135 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Hold_emNL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: NexEternity showed [7c Tc] and won ($3869) with a pair of Sevens
Seat 4: TheBusDriver folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SLYGREEK showed [6s 4c] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 6: H@££INGGOL (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: WDPS (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Empire2000 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: check@call_y folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Strange hands. What would happen if someone plays a standard 15/8 TAG game at these tables? +EV?

Or is this just a irrelevant question because preflop stats don't matter much?

Aces: Why the short stack strategy? Skill level + BR is high enough to play fullstacked right?

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

Strange hands. What would happen if someone plays a standard 15/8 TAG game at these tables? +EV?

Or is this just a irrelevant question because preflop stats don't matter much?

Aces: Why the short stack strategy? Skill level + BR is high enough to play fullstacked right?

The BR is big enough but the skill level is not. I don' t think I have an edge playing in that game full stacked but I know I have an edge shorstacked for some reasons I don't want to get into.

back at it like a crack addict.

PokerStars Game #5480103824: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 03:11:18 (ET)
Table 'Nemo' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: steamraise ($8269 in chips)
Seat 2: 38 unk ($3696 in chips)
Seat 3: ilikeaces86 ($1269 in chips)
Seat 4: HoldumGod ($12113 in chips)
Seat 5: kurosh ($1122 in chips)
Seat 6: H@££INGGOL ($16083 in chips)
Seat 7: TheBusDriver ($5000 in chips)
Seat 8: Empire2000 ($5219 in chips)
Seat 9: StackChipz71 ($11854 in chips)
kurosh: posts small blind $25
H@££INGGOL: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ilikeaces86 [Ac Kc]
TheBusDriver: raises $150 to $200
Empire2000: folds
StackChipz71: folds
steamraise: folds
38 unk: calls $200
ilikeaces86: raises $1069 to $1269 and is all-in
HoldumGod: folds
kurosh: folds
H@££INGGOL: folds
TheBusDriver: calls $1069
38 unk said, "2 many good hands"
38 unk: folds
*** FLOP *** [9h 8s Kd]
*** TURN *** [9h 8s Kd] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [9h 8s Kd 8h] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TheBusDriver: shows [Qd Ah] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
ilikeaces86: shows [Ac Kc] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
ilikeaces86 collected $2810 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2813 | Rake $3
Board [9h 8s Kd 8h Qs]
Seat 1: steamraise folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: 38 unk folded before Flop
Seat 3: ilikeaces86 showed [Ac Kc] and won ($2810) with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 4: HoldumGod (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kurosh (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: H@££INGGOL (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: TheBusDriver showed [Qd Ah] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 8: Empire2000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: StackChipz71 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Originally Posted by ilikeaces86

The BR is big enough but the skill level is not. I don' t think I have an edge playing in that game full stacked but I know I have an edge shorstacked for some reasons I don't want to get into.

...because all-in protects you from difficult decisons that these guys will put you to and because they're making terrible errors in a short money game.

some of these people are real bad....

PokerStars Game #5480353682: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 04:10:38 (ET)
Table 'Pafuri' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: ilikeaces86 ($1300 in chips)
Seat 3: HoldumGod ($13778.50 in chips)
Seat 4: 38 unk ($2447 in chips)
Seat 5: H@££INGGOL ($17033 in chips)
Seat 6: B Buddy ($5122 in chips)
Seat 7: steamraise ($3474.15 in chips)
Seat 8: StackChipz71 ($18067.50 in chips)
Seat 9: aba20 ($5000 in chips)
aba20: posts small blind $25
ilikeaces86: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
HoldumGod: folds
38 unk: raises $150 to $200
H@££INGGOL: calls $200
B Buddy: folds
steamraise: folds
StackChipz71: folds
aba20: folds
ilikeaces86: folds
*** FLOP *** [9c 2c 4d]
38 unk: bets $350
H@££INGGOL: raises $4350 to $4700
38 unk: calls $1897 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [9c 2c 4d] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [9c 2c 4d 7d] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
38 unk: shows [Td Ad] (high card Ace)
H@££INGGOL: shows [6c 5c] (a pair of Sixes)
H@££INGGOL collected $4966 from pot

h@ll has more money sitting in front of him then i've made in my entire life

Originally Posted by Fnord

Originally Posted by ilikeaces86

The BR is big enough but the skill level is not. I don' t think I have an edge playing in that game full stacked but I know I have an edge shorstacked for some reasons I don't want to get into.

...because all-in protects you from difficult decisons that these guys will put you to and because they're making terrible errors in a short money game.

SHHHHHH

*** HOLE CARDS ***
aaabbbccc joins the table at seat #9
H@££INGGOL: folds
PoorUser: raises $150 to $200
Speareman: calls $200
xxSAMMYxx: folds
B Buddy: folds
AnalAce: calls $200
Empire2000: folds
HoldumGod: calls $150
*** FLOP *** [9d 5c 9s]
HoldumGod: checks
PoorUser: bets $400
Speareman: calls $400
AnalAce: raises $700 to $1100
HoldumGod: calls $1100
PoorUser: folds
Speareman: calls $700
*** TURN *** [9d 5c 9s] [6c]
HoldumGod: checks
Speareman: checks
AnalAce: checks
*** RIVER *** [9d 5c 9s 6c] [6h]
HoldumGod: checks
Speareman: checks
AnalAce: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HoldumGod: shows [5d 5s] (a full house, Fives full of Nines)
Speareman: shows [9c 9h] (four of a kind, Nines)
AnalAce: mucks hand AA
Speareman collected $4522 from pot

yay passive 4ok

PokerStars Game #5480467531: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 04:45:17 (ET)
Table 'Pafuri' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: Empire2000 ($5247 in chips)
Seat 3: HoldumGod ($10198.35 in chips)
Seat 5: H@££INGGOL ($14121 in chips)
Seat 6: B Buddy ($11566 in chips)
Seat 7: PoorUser ($6572 in chips)
Seat 8: ElkY ($5000 in chips)
Seat 9: aba20 ($5047 in chips)
Empire2000: posts small blind $25
HoldumGod: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
H@££INGGOL: raises $150 to $200
B Buddy: folds
PoorUser: folds
ElkY: folds
aba20: folds
Empire2000: folds
HoldumGod: raises $400 to $600
H@££INGGOL: calls $400
*** FLOP *** [Td Ks Th]
HoldumGod: bets $500
H@££INGGOL: calls $500
*** TURN *** [Td Ks Th] [6c]
HoldumGod: checks
H@££INGGOL: bets $1450
HoldumGod: raises $1450 to $2900
H@££INGGOL: raises $1450 to $4350
HoldumGod: folds
H@££INGGOL collected $8022 from pot
H@££INGGOL: shows [8s 5s] (a pair of Tens)

HoldumGod: damn
HoldumGod: only had QQ

blimey.

insane

Aces, how did you end up doing?

that quads vs full hand is reall fucked up.
why on earth isnt 9999 betting?

h@ll's bluffs are pretty sick.

im addicted to watching these games

sick hand!
PokerStars Game #5480759043: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 06:35:32 (ET)
Table 'Pafuri' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: hellcat15 ($1469 in chips)
Seat 3: steamraise ($9502 in chips)
Seat 4: arbianight ($13783.50 in chips)
Seat 5: H@££INGGOL ($20257.50 in chips)
Seat 6: B Buddy ($4900 in chips)
Seat 7: stinkypete13 ($1047 in chips)
Seat 8: lucky karma ($7972 in chips)
Seat 9: aba20 ($12994 in chips)
stinkypete13: posts small blind $25
lucky karma: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
aba20: folds
hellcat15: folds
steamraise: raises $150 to $200
arbianight: raises $577 to $777
H@££INGGOL: folds
B Buddy: folds
stinkypete13: folds
lucky karma: folds
steamraise: calls $577
*** FLOP *** [6c 3h As]
steamraise: checks
arbianight: checks
*** TURN *** [6c 3h As] [3d]
steamraise: checks
arbianight: bets $1333
steamraise: raises $7392 to $8725 and is all-in
Empire2000 is disconnected
arbianight: calls $7392
*** RIVER *** [6c 3h As 3d] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
steamraise: shows [4d 5d] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
arbianight: mucks hand
steamraise collected $19076 from pot
arbianight said, "SO SICK"
arbianight said, "73"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $19079 | Rake $3
Board [6c 3h As 3d 2h]
Seat 1: hellcat15 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: steamraise showed [4d 5d] and won ($19076) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 4: arbianight mucked
Seat 5: H@££INGGOL folded before Flop (didn't bet)



Seat 6: B Buddy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet
Seat 7: stinkypete13 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: lucky karma (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: aba20 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

arbianight said, "4 OUTER"
arbianight said, "WELL PLAYED ****HEAD"
steamraise leaves the table

steamraise is a sick player, daniel alaei (sp?)

Originally Posted by gabe

steamraise is a sick player, daniel alaei (sp?)

So sick he can luckbox with 8 outs! We need to replace sick with crazy aggressive.

Seat 1: westmenloAA ($4900 in chips)
Seat 2: H3IN3K3N ($3930 in chips)
Seat 3: Gabfield ($4800 in chips)
Seat 5: flower2 ($1044 in chips)
Seat 6: Empire2000 ($20332 in chips)
Seat 7: 10Gunman ($5973 in chips)
Seat 8: smokingjoep ($4025 in chips)
Seat 9: bernstein ($775 in chips)
Gabfield: posts small blind $25
Boston Billy: is sitting out
flower2: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Boston Billy leaves the table
Empire2000: folds
10Gunman: folds
smokingjoep: folds
bernstein: raises $725 to $775 and is all-in
westmenloAA: calls $775
H3IN3K3N: folds
Gabfield: folds
flower2: folds
*** FLOP *** [2d Ks Kh]
*** TURN *** [2d Ks Kh] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [2d Ks Kh Ad] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bernstein: shows [Th 2h] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
westmenloAA: shows [Qd As] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
westmenloAA collected $1622 from pot

is that really daniel? he IS crazy aggressive.
CR all in with a gutshot....crazy.

Originally Posted by ilikeaces86

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

Strange hands. What would happen if someone plays a standard 15/8 TAG game at these tables? +EV?

Or is this just a irrelevant question because preflop stats don't matter much?

Aces: Why the short stack strategy? Skill level + BR is high enough to play fullstacked right?

The BR is big enough but the skill level is not. I don' t think I have an edge playing in that game full stacked but I know I have an edge shorstacked for some reasons I don't want to get into.

QFT

You can force someone into a bad posistion because they are playing a preflop game designed to win against other bigstacks...

Short stack ninja can be a very effective tatic... And actually give you a nice edge...

It's also high variance

plus people will hate you

why?
he puts the money in with probably the best cards most of the time and waits for the money to roll in at a decent rate.

hollingol getting his ass handed to him by zeebo

PokerStars Game #5488092880: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 23:21:57 (ET)
Table 'Pafuri' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: bet2win ($5000 in chips)
Seat 2: hoodiewho ($1000 in chips)
Seat 3: captZEEbo ($12249 in chips)
Seat 4: Empire2000 ($7036.60 in chips)
Seat 5: H@££INGGOL ($10785.50 in chips)
Seat 6: poopsie79 ($2094 in chips)
Seat 7: mullett ($3117.25 in chips)
Seat 8: Nicole_Katz ($7058.15 in chips)
Seat 9: tpreston ($2962.40 in chips)
mullett: posts small blind $25
Nicole_Katz: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
tpreston: folds
bet2win: folds
hoodiewho: folds
captZEEbo: raises $150 to $200
Empire2000: folds
H@££INGGOL: raises $450 to $650
poopsie79: folds
mullett: folds
Nicole_Katz: folds
captZEEbo: raises $1600 to $2250
H@££INGGOL: calls $1600
*** FLOP *** [9s Kd 5h]
captZEEbo: bets $2500
H@££INGGOL: calls $2500
*** TURN *** [9s Kd 5h] [4c]
captZEEbo: bets $3000
H@££INGGOL: raises $3035.50 to $6035.50 and is all-in
captZEEbo: calls $3035.50
*** RIVER *** [9s Kd 5h 4c] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
captZEEbo: shows [Ks Kc] (three of a kind, Kings)
H@££INGGOL: mucks hand
captZEEbo collected $21643 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21646 | Rake $3
Board [9s Kd 5h 4c As]
Seat 1: bet2win folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: hoodiewho folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: captZEEbo showed [Ks Kc] and won ($21643) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 4: Empire2000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: H@££INGGOL mucked
Seat 6: poopsie79 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mullett (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Nicole_Katz (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: tpreston folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Nicole_Katz: nice 21.643 hollingfish

then 3 hands later

PokerStars Game #5488133110: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/07 - 23:25:07 (ET)
Table 'Pafuri' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: bet2win ($4950 in chips)
Seat 2: hoodiewho ($1000 in chips)
Seat 3: captZEEbo ($23106.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Empire2000 ($7186.60 in chips)
Seat 5: H@££INGGOL ($5000 in chips)
Seat 6: poopsie79 ($2094 in chips)
Seat 7: mullett ($3092.25 in chips)
Seat 8: Nicole_Katz ($6983.15 in chips)
Seat 9: tpreston ($2887.40 in chips)
bet2win: posts small blind $25
hoodiewho: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
captZEEbo: folds
Empire2000: calls $50
H@££INGGOL: raises $150 to $200
poopsie79: folds
mullett: folds
Nicole_Katz: calls $200
tpreston: folds
bet2win: folds
hoodiewho: folds
Empire2000: calls $150
*** FLOP *** [8s 4h Qh]
Empire2000: bets $400
H@££INGGOL: calls $400
Nicole_Katz: folds
*** TURN *** [8s 4h Qh] [Jh]
Empire2000: bets $1050
H@££INGGOL: raises $3350 to $4400 and is all-in
Empire2000: calls $3350
*** RIVER *** [8s 4h Qh Jh] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Empire2000: shows [3h Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
H@££INGGOL: mucks hand
Empire2000 collected $10272 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10275 | Rake $3
Board [8s 4h Qh Jh 7c]
Seat 1: bet2win (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: hoodiewho (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: captZEEbo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Empire2000 showed [3h Ah] and won ($10272) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: H@££INGGOL mucked
Seat 6: poopsie79 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mullett folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Nicole_Katz folded on the Flop
Seat 9: tpreston (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I wouldn't exactly call it getting owned. H@ll ran bluffs into 2 people who had the nuts when he was bluffing them. Lesser hands would certainly lay down there.

i believe i used the phrase "getting his ass handed to him"

Originally Posted by Laeelin

You can force someone into a bad posistion because they are playing a preflop game designed to win against other bigstacks...

And what is that game?..

Originally Posted by jackvance

Originally Posted by Laeelin

You can force someone into a bad posistion because they are playing a preflop game designed to win against other bigstacks...

And what is that game?..

...that is the play a ton of shit so when you get a set of kings you get pushed into for 200bb's game.

I don't get it??

PokerStars Game #5492473964: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/08 - 12:08:51 (ET)
Table 'Hecuba IV' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Bry23 ($3148 in chips)
Seat 2: mkking ($4850 in chips)
Seat 5: bet2win ($4383 in chips)
Seat 6: leled80 ($2444 in chips)
Seat 9: ragu46 ($1825 in chips)
mkking: posts small blind $25
bet2win: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
leled80: folds
ragu46: folds
Bry23: raises $150 to $200
mkking: folds
bet2win: calls $150
*** FLOP *** [2d 3s Jc]
bet2win: checks
Bry23: bets $350
bet2win: raises $500 to $850
Bry23: raises $2098 to $2948 and is all-in
bet2win: calls $2098
*** TURN *** [2d 3s Jc] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [2d 3s Jc 6d] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bet2win: shows [Qs Js] (a pair of Jacks)
Bry23: mucks hand
bet2win collected $6319 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6321 | Rake $2
Board [2d 3s Jc 6d 7c]
Seat 1: Bry23 (button) mucked
Seat 2: mkking (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: bet2win (big blind) showed [Qs Js] and won ($6319) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 6: leled80 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ragu46 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Originally Posted by Greedo017

...that is the play a ton of shit so when you get a set of kings you get pushed into for 200bb's game.

I think it's probably a bit more complicated than that..

Btw those are some sick hands that are being posted here..

jackvance, the deeper players here are raising a very wide range preflop like suited connectors and such, and are thus being put in a tough spot when ilikeaces pushes over their raise with a superior hand.

Originally Posted by Renton

jackvance, the deeper players here are raising a very wide range preflop like suited connectors and such, and are thus being put in a tough spot when ilikeaces pushes over their raise with a superior hand.

When they raise to $200 with 98s, and you push all in over them for $1,000 ...

Even worse for them, they can know EXACTLY what your going to do, and they still cant do anything about it.

To play correctly against against you they would need to play incorrectly against the other big stacks.

So at the real high stakes, that's how people play? What are their VPIP/PFR stats then, typically?

(I'd want to go take a look at this, but my Pokerstars client keeps trying to upgrade and crashing)

Absolutely incredible. I wish I had the roll/balls to do this...potential goldmine. Play an hour a day and clean house. Damn.

i just tried to fire up these tables and they werent there as of 10 pm on a sat. just some 10/20 tables, whats up?

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

i just tried to fire up these tables and they werent there as of 10 pm on a sat. just some 10/20 tables, whats up?

You so silly rilla!

ah, i had hide full tables on. they're all full.

Originally Posted by flaptornriver

Absolutely incredible. I wish I had the roll/balls to do this...potential goldmine. Play an hour a day and clean house. Damn.

Originally Posted by Al4As

Originally Posted by flaptornriver

Absolutely incredible. I wish I had the roll/balls to do this...potential goldmine. Play an hour a day and clean house. Damn.

It's not so easy :P

what, waiting for a good hand then
pushing over a laggy raise, or raising
3X and pushing over a flop raise?
Maybe not easy in the sense that you
need big cajones for the variance, but
technically it seems pretty simple?

Well, go there and make a living playing poker then.

Originally Posted by andr3w321

I wouldn't exactly call it getting owned. H@ll ran bluffs into 2 people who had the nuts when he was bluffing them. Lesser hands would certainly lay down there.

Yeah, that 4-bet preflop by villain who leads the king-high flop is 'sort-of' scary. An ace on the river came and H@L still lost. I don't know what he had, but I'm guessing it was a pretty horribly played AK. Maybe even a JJ/QQ type hand trying to pick off a bluff, which was just silly in that spot. Other guy that stacked him was another 2+2 guy, but it's kind of hard to deduce what h@l had so I'll withhold judgement on that one.

here I go again

GL.. how did it go last time btw?

Originally Posted by jackvance

GL.. how did it go last time btw?

Up like 4 that night.
On a side not my head really hurts