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  1. #1

    Default Tourney Fixed Limit Omaha H/L Tips

    Ive been doing really REALLY well at the MTT for Omaha H/L. And here a some general guidelines to do well in them.

    1. Dont go into a pot just because you have an A-2 in your hand- I cant stress this enough, you want to win the High hand. I Dont know how many times ive seen people flush there bankroll drawing to the low to find out that 3 other people had an A-2 in there hand. Plus when you have the made low hand what happens when you pair your 2 or ace on the turn or the river?? YOU LOSE. The only time Ill play A-2 is if i have a 3 and a 4 or 5. Id rather hit my low with A-3 with a two on the board. Or Ill play A-2 if my ace is suitted. I like to realy on low hands if I dont hit my high.

    2. Early dont even bother playing playing crap like 6-7-9-10 double suitted. Ive seen many people flop a nut straight and lose to a higher one, people dont fold early. People always lose to higher flushes and dont get to carried away if you have 2-pair with these hands. Ive seen people make a full boat on the turn after having 2-pair on the flop and lose to higher boats. So what im trying to say is Fold these shit hands pre-flop.

    3. Early only goto a showdown with the nuts. And dont be afraid to fold a hand that was good on the flop like this. You have AH-AD-2H-3C pre-flop and you raise and all but 2 people call the raise (THIS WILL HAPPEN ALOT). the board is Ac-Qh-8c, you flopped trips the best hand right now so you bet and everyone but 1 person calls. Then the Kc come and now what do you do??? You check/fold, I promise you someone has a K-J in there hand or the flush. Dont get caught up in hands like this you will lose eventually.

    4. In Limit Omaha H/L tourneys there usually isnt any antes you can only lose money in the blinds. This means you dont have to get desperate early. play tight solid poker and eventually you will win a hand (My goal the first hour is to win 2 monster pots and fold all others). Later after the first hour people will tighten up because most of the idiots will just lose there stacks most people left are the people who have been playing tight just like us. So exploit there tightness (Most people continue to play tight and get blinded to death), its time to turn up the aggression, I will usually try to steal blinds if there isnt any limpers in front of me and im in the CO or button position. You wont usually get paid of with nut hands now so you need to just take blinds and build a stack.

    5. If you ever make it to the FT you will want to play hyper-aggressive. YOur goal now is to look like complete ass-clown and win chips off sheer aggresion. Alot of the time you will end up splitting the pot if you get down to 2-players post flop (doesnt sound good but it is because you will gain 1/2 of the blinds and at the final table this is alot of chips). But the beauty of this is when you do pick up a monster you will get some sort of action, if not you will win the blinds or the high.

    6. HU- Same idea as above eventually you will get a high hand where no low hands quilify and you will win!

    So in my expeirience the more people that get knocked out the higher your aggression level should be. This works for me very well. Ive won over 10 of these tourneys in the past 2 months playing like this! Im hoping to put 3 video's up. early play, middle play and FT.
  2. #2

    Default Re: Tourney Fixed Limit Omaha H/L Tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Slash
    1. Dont go into a pot just because you have an A-2 in your hand- I cant stress this enough, you want to win the High hand.
    The object of the game is definately to scoop and not play for one side of the pot. A lot of texts lead you to believing that A2 is playable in any position. Its not in tighter games. It definately needs something working for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slash
    I Dont know how many times ive seen people flush there bankroll drawing to the low to find out that 3 other people had an A-2 in there hand.
    Bankroll? Are we not talking about MTT's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slash
    The only time Ill play A-2 is if i have a 3 and a 4 or 5. Id rather hit my low with A-3 with a two on the board. Or Ill play A-2 if my ace is suitted. I like to realy on low hands if I dont hit my high.
    I think this is a bit extreme. There are other hands with A2 that play decent. hands like A2JT A2KQ A2KK AA2x etc... Have the aces suited up is a huge +

    Quote Originally Posted by Slash
    2. Early dont even bother playing playing crap like 6-7-9-10 double suitted. Ive seen many people flop a nut straight and lose to a higher one, people dont fold early. People always lose to higher flushes and dont get to carried away if you have 2-pair with these hands. Ive seen people make a full boat on the turn after having 2-pair on the flop and lose to higher boats. So what im trying to say is Fold these shit hands pre-flop.
    Good advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slash
    3. Early only goto a showdown with the nuts. And dont be afraid to fold a hand that was good on the flop like this. You have AH-AD-2H-3C pre-flop and you raise and all but 2 people call the raise (THIS WILL HAPPEN ALOT).
    Why would you want to raise up AA23 anyways in most loose situations? Raising preflop adds only marginally to your profits, yet increases your fluxations greatly. Also limping encourages multiway pots. This is the best hand in the game and we want to play with as many people in the pot. In a loose game balance is not important, so I will limp AA23 a lot more than I will raise it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Slash
    the board is Ac-Qh-8c, you flopped trips the best hand right now so you bet and everyone but 1 person calls. Then the Kc come and now what do you do??? You check/fold, I promise you someone has a K-J in there hand or the flush. Dont get caught up in hands like this you will lose eventually.
    Check folding is absolutely horrid in this spot. With this many people in the pot you have pot odds to draw to the boat. Your folding the draws to the nuts in both directions. While still having the possibility of being ahead for the high right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slash
    So in my expeirience the more people that get knocked out the higher your aggression level should be. This works for me very well. Ive won over 10 of these tourneys in the past 2 months playing like this! Im hoping to put 3 video's up. early play, middle play and FT.
    Overall I agree with your late - end play. As the MTT goes on the people tighten up and it plays more like a weak tight higher stakes cash game. You should never limp in first. Work on isolating donkeys. High hands go up in value when the pot can be contested HU or when you can get into multi-way pots cheaply in position.
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  3. #3

    Default Re: Tourney Fixed Limit Omaha H/L Tips

    Quote Originally Posted by ihategnomes
    Quote Originally Posted by Slash
    3. Early only goto a showdown with the nuts. And dont be afraid to fold a hand that was good on the flop like this. You have AH-AD-2H-3C pre-flop and you raise and all but 2 people call the raise (THIS WILL HAPPEN ALOT).
    Why would you want to raise up AA23 anyways in most loose situations? Raising preflop adds only marginally to your profits, yet increases your fluxations greatly. Also limping encourages multiway pots. This is the best hand in the game and we want to play with as many people in the pot. In a loose game balance is not important, so I will limp AA23 a lot more than I will raise it.
    You raise it because you have substantial multiway equity and you want to play a big pot against many loose players. I think you're wrong in your assessment that playing this monster hand aggressively only adds "marginally" to your profits.

    If it is raised in front of me, I would reraise to isolate and increase my scoop chances, and if I was facing a raise that was called several times, I would still most likely reraise to play a big multiway pot.
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    Because hand values are so close together we dont have HUGE mutliway advantage that you speak of. Thus we are increasing our fluxuations without adding much to our winrate. The comment wasnt so much directed at AA23 but the comment in general. If we have AA23 in EP, why raise and fold out hands? Doesnt make sense to fold out hands we want in the pot with us. If the game is tight, its a complete different story altogether
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  5. #5
    Here is an example of how A-A-2-3 plays against 3 other hands that loose players might hold (pot equity in bold):

    Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 376992 enumerated boards
    cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
    As Ac 2d 3h 97450 130831 243487 2674 75976 10646 51199 0.417
    Ks 5s 4d Kh 64713 88262 270659 18071 0 70527 30435 0.235
    7s 3d Ah Jh 51902 80163 293807 3022 6645 87062 51199 0.219
    4s 7c 5d 5h 14264 56685 301918 18389 1366 113105 30435 0.128
  6. #6
    In loose games we are generally up against more players and for this to be even remotely close to accurate, we need to have ranges for villians hands. We are also not even taking position into consideration. Rigged.
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