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Hi Keith
I agree with your assessment that because I lost there that there must be something wrong with the site and not the player. I do understand that I was somewhat "raw" and honestly didn't expect to win. I also didn't expect to lose so many times to a "suck out," or to players who seemingly knew what I had...or consistently being put all-in...this stuff happened repeatedly...no one is that unlucky...skill or no skill..suck outs happen, along with other things, but not all the time...every time. So...I left the site and went to Deuces Cracked to learn and get better...I happened to respond to a "thread" and began discussing Bovada...a week or so goes by...and the following came up on the thread without me asking for it...it came from a staunch Bovada player...the site that you will see below has the complete report which is fairly long...have culled a couple of paragraphs from the entire report to put here...so, if you care to read it, please do so...what I would really like to know is: are there any sites that we can trust not to be corrupt. Unfortunately, black Friday happened and US players are at the mercy of sites emanating from China, Costa Rico, etc. Read the following and, if you care to, let me know what you think.
Thread can be found on Deuces Cracked:
player (who was a grinder and proud of it) writes the following:
"Wait till you guys see this....2+2 pulled it off the shelves." ("it refers to Bovada)
Now go to this site: https://medium.com@dataminepoker/rep...c41#.e4o7jzmpt
He also writes that: "DC (meaning Deuces Cracked) might too who knows" (might pull it)
The following directly from the Datamine report:
"Based on these findings, our team can easily confirm that Bovada Poker is a haven for collusion activity. When visiting tables, it does not take many hands to see tables where players are chip dumping and blinds stealing. For the average player, it would be almost impossible to track because of the anonymous nature of Bovada. However, Bovada, should be taking action against these players and should be doing so within the few minutes of collusion activity. Most other online poker rooms have this functionality perfected, and based on the full report that will be released following this initial public report, our team will show how our team was easily caught by other online poker room security (BetOnline, SportsBetting) within 1 session and less than 20 hands."
The report goes on about the Bovada Bot:
"Using some of the functions located within the Poker.js.library, the bot can easily calculate the current hand and tap in to a function that can judge the odds of winning the hand. Following the simple limit Texas Holdem poker algorithms, the bot places a limit dollar value based on the odds of winning the hand. Then, based on the difference between the dollar value and the current bet, the bot decides to check, call, bet, or fold. Following this simple limit value formula, it becomes very easy to build a winning bot system." My words: they cheat and I am sure of it.
The conclusion of the report states the following:
"Based on all of the separate tests completed by our contracting team, it is evident that there are massive issues at Bovada Poker. There are issues with the number of multi large hands, collusion teams and bots. All of these situations were PROVEN (my emphasis) through data collection (again my words here: million upon millions of hands) analysis and then using the techniques ourselves to increase our ability to win over average players.
Through each stage of testing, our team was extremely surprised by the lack of security within the Poker Room software. Most of these blatant gaps came from the JavaScript Mobile Web application. However, Bovada's anonymous poker room style provides security for collusion teams and other forms of cheaters from the average player."
A lot to read, I know...apologies for the length....I still think Bovada is crooked. I suck and am a fish...but am not stupid. I want to improve and hopefully I will.
Thanks again for your response to what I wrote....write back if you care to
Dan
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