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chardrian's Rebuy Strategy
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Ok - this post is probably going to be coming in segments. Instead of posting my entire hand history, I've decided to post pertitent hands and discuss how they did or maybe did not go with my overall strategy.
First of all - a little background. I started really getting into rebuys less than 6 months ago. I have a fulltime non-poker job so I am not playing multiple tournies a day. However, I am playing multiple tournies a week. When I first started, I was one of those guys who bought in once and then treated it like a freezeout with a huge payout structure. My goal then was just to make the money. I have now seen the . The goal for these tournies now is to make the final table and win it all. To do this you need to be willing to rebuy immediately, rebuy twice if you get beat, rebuy twice again and buy an add-on - you need to be appropriately bankrolled. I think 7 total buyins is totally fine. If you luck out you will only need 3. 5 is common. And 7 also happens to be pretty common for me.
I have gone up to something like 15 when I just kept repeatedly taking bad beats, but this is not profitable (you basically HAVE to make the FT just to recoup your entries). So for me now, I will play loose as a goose for my first and second rebuys (4 total entries), I'll then tighten up a bit when I rebuy again (for etries number 5-6), and I will rebuy once more after that but basically play tighter than tight. So 9 total rebuys is my new maximum.
Rebuys are freaky. The rebuy hour is total loosey goosey play. Focus and patience really are not extremely important during the rebuy hour. As soon as the first real hour begins, however, you need to become an extremely focused, patient, and well just a good poker player. These things last a long long time. If you can't remain focused for 6 hours, you are going to be depending more on luck than skill. My biggest leaks were (and occassionally still are) becoming impatient and making that one big bonehead move that everyone else is waiting for you to make. What follows are some general ideas with some hands as examples. The word "general" is in bold for a reason. You can't play a tourney by a book; you need to use your own style and your own reads. I have seen both very loose and very tight players do well. Watch how others at your table are playing, learn from that, and oh yeah have fun - I have been noticing how many other players lately really are not enjoying themselves. Although these tournies do take a lot of focus, that does not mean you need to have a rod up your ass making your eyes go .
I'm trying to think of a few odds and ends that I woulda found helpful: In general my major rebuy tourney is the nightly Paradise $30 Rebuy. I would say in general you are going to see somewhere around 200-250 hands before you make a final table. I will keep adding to this as I see fit.
REBUY HOUR
As others have already posted, the rebuy hour is basically its own separate tournament. Just a couple of months ago I thought it was an ok strategy to buy in once and just hope for the best. Although this can work occassionally, it is a really really bad strategy. You gotta be bankrolled to take bad beats and rebuy again. The whole point of these tournies is to make the final table - cuz if you do the payouts are huge.
In general I try to see as many hands as possible and I give myself as many outs as possible.
Some examples:
Table "$20,000 R&A 19" (MTT) -- Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: vincentdimeglio (1,880 in chips)
Seat 2: NOGERA (1,500 in chips)
Seat 3: DzNutz (1,490 in chips)
Seat 4: Rekopduts (1,420 in chips)
Seat 5: tucisloose (3,000 in chips)
Seat 6: chardrian (2,790 in chips)
Seat 7: Big_Col (3,000 in chips)
Seat 8: Araiza (2,920 in chips)
Seat 9: POKERMAN05 (1,500 in chips)
Seat 10: randomisgood (3,000 in chips)
Rekopduts: Post Small Blind (10)
tucisloose: Post Big Blind (20)
Dealing...
Dealt to chardrian [ Ac ]
Dealt to chardrian [ 2h ]
chardrian: Call (20)
Big_Col : Call (20)
Araiza : Call (20)
POKERMAN05: Call (20)
randomisgood: Call (20)
vincentdimeglio: Call (20)
NOGERA : Fold
DzNutz : Fold
Rekopduts: Call (10)
tucisloose: Check
*** FLOP *** : [ 5d 4c Js ] pot = 160
Rekopduts: Bet (170)
tucisloose: Fold
chardrian: Call (170)
Big_Col : Fold
Araiza : Fold
POKERMAN05: Fold
randomisgood: Fold
vincentdimeglio: Call (170)
I call this during the rebuy hour cuz I gave myself 7 outs. If an A or 3 hit the turn I bet out.
*** TURN *** : [ 5d 4c Js ] [ 2d ]
Rekopduts: Bet (650)
chardrian: Fold
vincentdimeglio: Fold
Rekopduts: Winner -- doesn't show cards
Some would call that bet as well thinking 2 more outs have been added. I'm ok with giving hands up during the rebuy hour.
The very next hand...
Table "$20,000 R&A 19" (MTT) -- Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: vincentdimeglio (1,690 in chips)
Seat 2: NOGERA (1,500 in chips)
Seat 3: DzNutz (1,490 in chips)
Seat 4: Rekopduts (1,900 in chips)
Seat 5: tucisloose (2,980 in chips)
Seat 6: chardrian (2,600 in chips)
Seat 7: Big_Col (2,980 in chips)
Seat 8: Araiza (2,900 in chips)
Seat 9: POKERMAN05 (1,480 in chips)
Seat 10: randomisgood (2,980 in chips)
tucisloose: Post Small Blind (10)
chardrian: Post Big Blind (20)
Dealing...
Dealt to chardrian [ 2c ]
Dealt to chardrian [ Ah ]
Big_Col : Call (20)
Araiza : Call (20)
POKERMAN05: Call (20)
randomisgood: Fold
vincentdimeglio: Raise (190)
NOGERA : Fold
DzNutz : Fold
Rekopduts: Fold
tucisloose: Fold
chardrian: Call (170)
Big_Col : Call (170)
Araiza : Call (170)
POKERMAN05: Fold
*** FLOP *** : [ As 8s 7c ] pot = 770
chardrian: Bet (910) - in case you didn't notice, this bet puts me down to 1500 chips so I can rebuy again if I'm beat or outdrawn. I am more than willing to call an all-in reraise here.
Big_Col : Fold
Araiza : Call (910)
vincentdimeglio: Call (910)
*** TURN *** : [ As 8s 7c ] [ Qh ] pot= 3500
chardrian: Check
Araiza : Check
vincentdimeglio: Check
*** RIVER *** : [ As 8s 7c Qh ] [ 2d ] pot = 3500
chardrian: Bet (1,500)
Araiza : Fold
vincentdimeglio: Call All-in (590)
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 4,700 | Board: [ As 8s 7c Qh 2d ]
vincentdimeglio lost 1,690 (showed hand) [ 5h 5d ] (a pair of fives)
NOGERA didn't bet (folded)
DzNutz didn't bet (folded)
Rekopduts didn't bet (folded)
tucisloose lost 10 (folded)
chardrian bet 2,600, collected 5,610, net +3,010 (showed hand) [ 2c Ah ] (two
pair, aces and twos)
Big_Col lost 190 (folded)
Araiza lost 1,100 (folded)
POKERMAN05 lost 20 (folded)
randomisgood didn't bet (folded)
When I get what is generally a so/so hand during a rebuy hour... I raise. Some examples:
Game #961744549 - Tournament $20,000 R&A - 15/30 No Limit Texas Hold'em -
2005/09/05-12:23:52.7 (CST)
Table "$20,000 R&A 19" (MTT) -- Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: vincentdimeglio (3,000 in chips)
Seat 2: NOGERA (1,995 in chips)
Seat 3: DzNutz (2,900 in chips)
Seat 4: Rekopduts (1,720 in chips)
Seat 5: tucisloose (4,150 in chips)
Seat 6: chardrian (4,440 in chips)
Seat 7: Big_Col (4,310 in chips)
Seat 8: Araiza (4,805 in chips)
Seat 9: POKERMAN05 (2,970 in chips)
Seat 10: randomisgood (2,710 in chips)
chardrian: Post Small Blind (15)
Big_Col : Post Big Blind (30)
Dealt to chardrian [ As ]
Dealt to chardrian [ 7s ]
Araiza : Call (30)
POKERMAN05: Fold
randomisgood: Fold
vincentdimeglio: Fold
NOGERA : Call (30)
DzNutz : Fold
Rekopduts: Fold
tucisloose: Fold
chardrian: Raise (150)
Big_Col : Fold
Araiza : Call (135)
NOGERA : Call (135)
*** FLOP *** : [ 3d 6d 7c ]
chardrian: Bet (550)
Araiza : Call (550)
NOGERA : Fold
*** TURN *** : [ 3d 6d 7c ] [ 2c ]
chardrian: Bet (2,200)
Araiza : Call (2,200)
*** RIVER *** : [ 3d 6d 7c 2c ] [ 9c ]
chardrian: Bet (1,525)
Araiza : Call (1,525)
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 9,075 | Board: [ 3d 6d 7c 2c 9c ]
vincentdimeglio didn't bet (folded)
NOGERA lost 165 (folded)
DzNutz didn't bet (folded)
Rekopduts didn't bet (folded)
tucisloose didn't bet (folded)
chardrian bet 4,440, collected 9,075, net +4,635 (showed hand) [ As 7s ] (a
pair of sevens)
Big_Col lost 30 (folded)
Araiza lost 4,440 (showed hand) [ 6s Jd ] (a pair of sixes)
POKERMAN05 didn't bet (folded)
randomisgood didn't bet (folded)
Table "$20,000 R&A 19" (MTT) -- Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: vincentdimeglio (3,000 in chips)
Seat 2: NOGERA (1,830 in chips)
Seat 3: DzNutz (2,535 in chips)
Seat 4: Rekopduts (1,720 in chips)
Seat 5: tucisloose (4,150 in chips)
Seat 6: chardrian (8,995 in chips)
Seat 7: Big_Col (4,265 in chips)
Seat 8: Araiza (2,325 in chips)
Seat 9: POKERMAN05 (2,970 in chips)
Seat 10: randomisgood (2,710 in chips)
Araiza : Post Small Blind (15)
POKERMAN05: Post Big Blind (30)
Dealing...
Dealt to chardrian [ Ts ]
Dealt to chardrian [ 9s ]
randomisgood: Fold
vincentdimeglio: Fold
NOGERA : Fold
DzNutz : Fold
Rekopduts: Call (30)
tucisloose: Call (30)
chardrian: Raise (150)
Big_Col : Fold
Araiza : Call (135)
POKERMAN05: Fold
Rekopduts: Call (120)
tucisloose: Call (120)
*** FLOP *** : [ 2c 5s Tc ]
Araiza : Check
Rekopduts: Check
tucisloose: Bet (300)
chardrian: Raise (1,000)
Araiza : Fold
Rekopduts: Fold
tucisloose: Call (700)
*** TURN *** : [ 2c 5s Tc ] [ 8s ]
tucisloose: Check
chardrian: Bet (3,000)
tucisloose: Call All-in (3,000)
*** RIVER *** : [ 2c 5s Tc 8s ] [ 3c ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 8,630 | Board: [ 2c 5s Tc 8s 3c ]
vincentdimeglio didn't bet (folded)
NOGERA didn't bet (folded)
DzNutz didn't bet (folded)
Rekopduts lost 150 (folded)
tucisloose lost 4,150 (showed hand) [ 5c Kh ] (a pair of fives)
chardrian bet 4,150, collected 8,630, net +4,480 (showed hand) [ Ts 9s ] (a
pair of tens)
Big_Col didn't bet (folded)
Araiza lost 150 (folded)
POKERMAN05 lost 30 (folded)
randomisgood didn't bet (folded)
And when u get beat, u just shrug it off and say nh:
Table "$20,000 R&A 19" (MTT) -- Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: vincentdimeglio (3,000 in chips)
Seat 2: NOGERA (1,830 in chips)
Seat 3: DzNutz (2,535 in chips)
Seat 4: Rekopduts (1,570 in chips)
Seat 5: tucisloose (3,000 in chips)
Seat 6: chardrian (13,475 in chips)
Seat 7: Big_Col (4,265 in chips)
Seat 8: Araiza (2,175 in chips)
Seat 9: POKERMAN05 (2,940 in chips)
Seat 10: randomisgood (2,710 in chips)
POKERMAN05: Post Small Blind (15)
randomisgood: Post Big Blind (30)
Dealing...
Dealt to chardrian [ As ]
Dealt to chardrian [ Js ]
vincentdimeglio: Call (30)
NOGERA : Call (30)
DzNutz : Fold
Rekopduts: Call (30)
tucisloose: Fold
chardrian: Raise (150)
Big_Col : Fold
Araiza : Call (150)
POKERMAN05: Fold
randomisgood: Fold
vincentdimeglio: Raise (2,970)
NOGERA : Fold
Rekopduts: Fold
chardrian: Call (2,850)
Araiza : Fold
*** FLOP *** : [ Ah 2d 4h ]
*** TURN *** : [ Ah 2d 4h ] [ 2h ]
chardrian said, "nh"
*** RIVER *** : [ Ah 2d 4h 2h ] [ 9d ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 6,255 | Board: [ Ah 2d 4h 2h 9d ]
vincentdimeglio bet 3,000, collected 6,255, net +3,255 (showed hand) [ Kh 8h ]
(a flush, ace high)
NOGERA lost 30 (folded)
DzNutz didn't bet (folded)
Rekopduts lost 30 (folded)
tucisloose didn't bet (folded)
chardrian lost 3,000 (showed hand) [ As Js ] (two pair, aces and twos)
Big_Col didn't bet (folded)
Araiza lost 150 (folded)
POKERMAN05 lost 15 (folded)
randomisgood lost 30 (folded)
And when you get a monster. You try to get 1-2 others in the pot with you and get as much value as possible. If you get bad beat, better now than during the next hour. If not, you are rolling:
Game #961777268 - Tournament $20,000 R&A - 50/100 No Limit Texas Hold'em -
2005/09/05-12:51:12.0 (CST)
Table "$20,000 R&A 19" (MTT) -- Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: vincentdimeglio (2,565 in chips)
Seat 2: NOGERA (10,100 in chips)
Seat 3: DzNutz (2,310 in chips)
Seat 4: DJCBoston (0 in chips)
Seat 5: tucisloose (9,965 in chips)
Seat 6: chardrian (10,460 in chips)
Seat 7: Big_Col (1,930 in chips)
Seat 8: Araiza (2,000 in chips)
Seat 9: POKERMAN05 (6,930 in chips)
Seat 10: randomisgood (5,950 in chips)
chardrian: Post Small Blind (50)
Big_Col : Post Big Blind (100)
Dealt to chardrian [ Kd ]
Dealt to chardrian [ Kh ]
DJCBoston said, "pooopi3e"
Araiza : Fold
POKERMAN05: Fold
randomisgood: Fold
vincentdimeglio: Raise (650)
NOGERA : Fold
DzNutz : Fold
tucisloose: Call (650)
chardrian: Call (600)
Big_Col : Fold
*** FLOP *** : [ Qc Th Qd ]
chardrian: Check
vincentdimeglio: Bet (1,800)
tucisloose: Call (1,800)
chardrian: Raise (4,000)
vincentdimeglio: Call All-in (115)
tucisloose: Fold
*** TURN *** : [ Qc Th Qd ] [ 4d ]
*** RIVER *** : [ Qc Th Qd 4d ] [ 4h ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 7,680 | Board: [ Qc Th Qd 4d 4h ]
vincentdimeglio lost 2,565 (showed hand) [ 6d Td ] (two pair, queens and tens)
NOGERA didn't bet (folded)
DzNutz didn't bet (folded)
DJCBoston didn't bet
tucisloose lost 2,450 (folded)
chardrian bet 4,650, collected 9,765, net +5,115 (showed hand) [ Kd Kh ] (two
pair, kings and queens)
Big_Col lost 100 (folded)
Araiza didn't bet (folded)
POKERMAN05 didn't bet (folded)
randomisgood didn't bet (folded)
Game #961781191 - Tournament $20,000 R&A - 50/100 No Limit Texas Hold'em -
2005/09/05-12:54:13.9 (CST)
Table "$20,000 R&A 19" (MTT) -- Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: vincentdimeglio (3,000 in chips)
Seat 2: NOGERA (10,100 in chips)
Seat 3: DzNutz (1,410 in chips)
Seat 4: DJCBoston (3,000 in chips)
Seat 5: tucisloose (5,515 in chips)
Seat 6: chardrian (15,575 in chips)
Seat 7: Big_Col (1,780 in chips)
Seat 8: Araiza (4,950 in chips)
Seat 9: POKERMAN05 (6,930 in chips)
Seat 10: randomisgood (5,950 in chips)
Araiza : Post Small Blind (50)
POKERMAN05: Post Big Blind (100)
Dealing...
Dealt to chardrian [ Jh ]
Dealt to chardrian [ Jc ]
randomisgood: Fold
vincentdimeglio: Fold
NOGERA : Call (100)
DzNutz : Fold
DJCBoston: Raise (300)
tucisloose: Call (300)
chardrian: Raise (3,000)
Big_Col : Fold
Araiza : Fold
POKERMAN05: Fold
NOGERA : Fold
DJCBoston: Call All-in (2,700)
tucisloose: Fold
DJCBoston said, "gmable again...y not"
*** FLOP *** : [ 2d 4c 9c ]
tucisloose said, "a q"
DJCBoston said, "6666666666"
DJCBoston said, "6666666666"
DJCBoston said, "6666666666"
*** TURN *** : [ 2d 4c 9c ] [ 3d ]
DJCBoston said, "5"
DJCBoston said, "5"
DJCBoston said, "5"
*** RIVER *** : [ 2d 4c 9c 3d ] [ As ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 6,550 | Board: [ 2d 4c 9c 3d As ]
vincentdimeglio didn't bet (folded)
NOGERA lost 100 (folded)
DzNutz didn't bet (folded)
DJCBoston lost 3,000 (showed hand) [ 6h 6d ] (a pair of sixes)
tucisloose lost 300 (folded)
chardrian bet 3,000, collected 6,550, net +3,550 (showed hand) [ Jh Jc ] (a
pair of jacks)
Big_Col didn't bet (folded)
Araiza lost 50 (folded)
POKERMAN05 lost 100 (folded)
randomisgood didn't bet (folded)
I ended this hour in first place with over 19,000 chips. With such a big stack, do you need to bother to add-on? Yes.
I also think it's important to note that once you do get a big stack in the rebuy hour you can tighten up a bit. My two big hands - KK and JJ came at the end of the hour and I'm not letting these suckers go preflop during a rebuy. However, with the stack I had, I would be willing to let hands like 77 or ATs go to huge preflop bets.
I saw 50% of the hands that hour - I think that's about right for the rebuy hour.
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