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Old 11-17-2007, 02:42 PM     Post subject: Play against the donks (4 1/2 hands) #1 (permalink)  
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I just joined the table but it is supposed to be super juicy (like 40bb average pot and 40% see flop). Check or bet the flop? turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($394.20)
Hero ($192.90)
MP3 ($189.50)
CO ($303.70)
Button ($172.45)
SB ($180.05)
BB ($299.75)
UTG ($178.50)
UTG+1 ($200)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, K.
3 folds, Hero raises to $8, MP3 calls $8, 2 folds, SB calls $7, 1 fold.

Flop: ($26) 3, T, Q (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, MP3 calls $18, SB calls $18.

Turn: ($80) 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets $56, SB calls $56, Hero

Preflop was a misclick and I understand my flop play was probably shitty. Villain here has minraised me twice before on A-high boards, once I folded, another time he folded when I made a small reraise.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Button ($187.55)
SB ($108)
BB ($326.65)
UTG ($199)
Hero ($313.70)
CO ($1168.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , .
UTG raises to $8, Hero raises to $18, 1 fold, Button calls $18, 2 folds, UTG calls $10.

Flop: ($57) , , (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($57) (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $34, Button raises to $68, UTG folds, Hero

I really wanted to c/f this hand. This guy is a weak tight regular and is almost always online when I play. K10 is definitely a hand he calls with PF.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP2 ($204.75)
MP3 ($110.95)
CO ($43.75)
Button ($46)
Hero ($198)
BB ($220.65)
UTG ($525.75)
UTG+1 ($273.95)
MP1 ($132.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, MP2 calls $2, 3 folds, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, UTG calls $10, MP2 calls $10.

Flop: ($38) , , (3 players)
Hero bets $26, UTG calls $26, MP2 folds.

Turn: ($90) (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $50, Hero calls $50.

River: ($190) (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $110, Hero

I figured someone would tell me if they had a set. Man I hate these spots. Played OK? Plan if original bettor or cold-caller reraises? UTG got his huge sstack by running super hot weak tight. Other guy idk.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP1 ($232.70)
MP2 ($91)
CO ($216.65)
Button ($221.80)
SB ($192)
Hero ($220.30)
UTG ($1073.20)
UTG+1 ($397)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, MP1 calls $2, 2 folds, Button calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $14, UTG calls $12, MP1 calls $12, Button calls $12.

Flop: ($57) , , (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $12, MP1 calls $12, Button folds, Hero raises to $58

And I just wanted to post a hand stacking wufuguy because there is nothing more satisfying than taking away a fellow poster's chips.

POKERSTARS GAME #13286557152: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/11/16 - 22:33:24 (ET)
Table 'Nauplius IV' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: EMPshockwave ($196 in chips)
Seat 2: kemikar ($219.60 in chips)
Seat 3: wufwugy ($170.50 in chips)
Seat 4: jimmy lsdhu ($131.05 in chips)
Seat 5: capaneo ($413.50 in chips)
Seat 6: aragon ($223.20 in chips)
Seat 7: daddae2 ($131.80 in chips)
Seat 8: bobby727 ($122 in chips)
Seat 9: BklynPok ($437.65 in chips)
kemikar: posts small blind $1
wufwugy: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kemikar [Kd Kc]
jimmy lsdhu: folds
capaneo: folds
aragon: folds
daddae2: folds
bobby727: folds
BklynPok: folds
EMPshockwave: folds
kemikar: raises $6 to $8
wufwugy: raises $16 to $24
kemikar: calls $16
*** FLOP *** [7s 3s Ks]
kemikar: checks
wufwugy: bets $36
kemikar: raises $60 to $96
wufwugy: raises $50.50 to $146.50 and is all-in
kemikar: calls $50.50
*** TURN *** [7s 3s Ks] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [7s 3s Ks 4d] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kemikar: shows [Kd Kc] (a full house, Kings full of Sevens)
wufwugy: mucks hand
kemikar collected $338 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $341 | Rake $3
Board [7s 3s Ks 4d 7c]
Seat 1: EMPshockwave (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: kemikar (small blind) showed [Kd Kc] and won ($338) with a full house, Kings full of Sevens
Seat 3: wufwugy (big blind) mucked [Ac As]
Seat 4: jimmy lsdhu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: capaneo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: aragon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: daddae2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bobby727 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: BklynPok folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:26 PM #2 (permalink)  
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1. I bet turn, but don't see how you can fold as played.

2. Since you kinda have a read the hand is very read dependent. I probably play this one standard and bet flop, but as played and vs this villian you don't wanna fold turn. A rr is bad too so just call.

3. Who's the reg? Assuming you know him well enough, you're so beat by river. I almost put him on 55 more often than KT. A river bet this size from this type of player is usually about them compensating for not getting more in on earlier streets.

4. A little unnecessary fps. Just bet out, and probably don't fold. This is a very good flop for you, only problem is it's fourhanded. The crai line gets less from hands you beat, and doesn't limit losses when you're beat. There are two more streets where you'll check then JJ may think it's the best hand or T9 may wanna bluff. It is a tough spot, though.

5. Oooooh now that I know your sn prepare to get PWNTTTT. Not really. I avoid decent regs. Doesn't mean I dont PWNNNN them when they make the egregious mistake of not auto-folding in any pot I enter.

I almost posted this hand in that other thread with the monotone flop as an example of when we are getting the odds to play further with an overpair and fd. What is your range here? I put you on AA, KK, and an occasional to seldom yet unnecessary AK.
 
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