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  1. #11701
    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I just... I don't get it. I use public restrooms too, and I have lived with small children who are inconsiderate pricks and piss on the seat-- When I need to defecate, I too must sit on the seat. However, I never would ever dream of sitting on any toilet seat without giving it at least a quick glance first. The seedier the place, the closer the inspection.

    How is it that someone, whose entire toilet career consists of sitting, is capable of neglecting such a basic tenet of personal bathroom hygene? When I've had chats with women about how it's a bit absurd to take such a hard stance and make such a big issue about putting the seat back down, they often cite such incidences in which they sat down while the seat was still up, thereby sitting on the bare rim of the bowl. I mean.. come on.. take on some personal responsibility.
    boost, it was explained to me by my wife that the toilet only has one mode in the female mind, and that the "seat up" position is outside their mental grasp. she sat on cold porcelain a couple times and i've basically caved in to her demands. hashtag married life?
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    s1 e08 of the wire. i remain committed through the end of s2.
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    bikes, I thought you worked for an Injun outfit. Charity casinos in Illinois were run by carnies.

    eug, see, you caved, and that's fine, you gotta make sacrifices in a relationship-- however, I'm not sure I could do it. The logic of "I can't be bothered to check, so you need to ensure I don't have to" is painful to even try to wrap my head around.

    As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure a formula can be devised to show what ratio of men to women you need for more people to be inconvenienced by the seat always being left down. I think one shit and four pisses a day seems fair, so when 4m > 5f+1m a default seat down position is worse for the group. Also, by just leaving the seat in the position you used it in, you eliminate the potential for a double move where the following user needs to move the seat before using it as well as yourself needing to move the seat after you're done.


    And yes, I've been thinking about this a lot. dealwithit.jpg
  4. #11704
    In German households men are even often required to sit to do their business.
  5. #11705

    Caption reads "Please sit down to pee."
  6. #11706
    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    eug, see, you caved, and that's fine, you gotta make sacrifices in a relationship-- however, I'm not sure I could do it. The logic of "I can't be bothered to check, so you need to ensure I don't have to" is painful to even try to wrap my head around.
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  7. #11707
    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I just... I don't get it. I use public restrooms too, and I have lived with small children who are inconsiderate pricks and piss on the seat-- When I need to defecate, I too must sit on the seat. However, I never would ever dream of sitting on any toilet seat without giving it at least a quick glance first. The seedier the place, the closer the inspection.

    How is it that someone, whose entire toilet career consists of sitting, is capable of neglecting such a basic tenet of personal bathroom hygene? When I've had chats with women about how it's a bit absurd to take such a hard stance and make such a big issue about putting the seat back down, they often cite such incidences in which they sat down while the seat was still up, thereby sitting on the bare rim of the bowl. I mean.. come on.. take on some personal responsibility.
    I do somewhat blame myself, but the thing is - I never go out of my way to scrutinize the seat because I always look at it before sitting down and I've always detected piss there. It's been readily apparent, so I didn't feel the need to actually stop and make sure because I've always spotted it first. I have no idea how I didn't see it this time.

    Nonetheless, I don't want to be cleaning some random dickweed's piss off a seat I'm about to sit on. Personal responsibility on my part aside, dude's a gross asshole. I don't think women should be expected to clean piss off seats. Sure you should be careful, and trust me I will be extra careful from now on, but either way it's a really disgusting thing to do.

    Even my brother does it at the house an he's an ostensibly civilized human. I mean, come on. It's not excusable.

    (Lol we are both "I mean come on"ers)
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    eug, see, you caved, and that's fine, you gotta make sacrifices in a relationship-- however, I'm not sure I could do it. The logic of "I can't be bothered to check, so you need to ensure I don't have to" is painful to even try to wrap my head around.

    As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure a formula can be devised to show what ratio of men to women you need for more people to be inconvenienced by the seat always being left down. I think one shit and four pisses a day seems fair, so when 4m > 5f+1m a default seat down position is worse for the group. Also, by just leaving the seat in the position you used it in, you eliminate the potential for a double move where the following user needs to move the seat before using it as well as yourself needing to move the seat after you're done.
    I've gone through the exact same process and am totally on board with you here.

    I held out against this bullshit for my entire relationship but then when my wife was 7+ months pregnant and a month or two after giving birth, it was just a mean fight to keep up. Of course, since I "caved" that meant it would be a bigger battle to go back the proper way. So my solution is to not only lower the toilet seat but to lower the lid as well when I'm done. Now she still has to do the same amount of work as me when she goes to the bathroom and she can't bitch about it because I can argue it looks nicer and that's why the lid's there.


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  9. #11709
    I clean PISS off seats before shitting. I'm not happy about it but it beats the alternatives.

    PISS IN MY ASSHOLE
  10. #11710
    ... does your asshole make contact with the toilet seat the way you do things, or am I understanding you wrongly?
  11. #11711
    I mostly don't understand why other women care so much about the toilet seat lid. It makes sense if you're gonna be nasty and piss all over the rim. If you're like that, yeah, at least put the damn lid down so we don't need to check our gag reflexes every time we go to the bathroom.

    Also it can be frustrating at night if you're sleepily plodding to the bathroom and just sit without thinking. Personally this isn't a big deal to me because, and maybe it's just my toilet, it's not like I actually fall in the water. But again, the lid is usually not clean. So... that's gross.

    If you're hygienic nothing should be that big a deal. If you're not, then I think the onus is on you to at least keep other people from having to sit in it or see it.

    Sometimes there is piss on the seats in women only restrooms as well. I mean, w t f. Just WTF. How? Why? What did you do?

    Actually that could be the result of people crouching on the lid because of germs, which I understand. Those women are no better (the ones who do that and don't wipe off the tinkle sprinkle). CLEAN THE DAMN SEAT. Fucking nasty people.
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  12. #11712
    My lesbian friend's toilet has book shelves over the tank. I'm not sure if they designed it this way but the bottom shelf sticks out just far enough that you cannot leave the seat up.

    On a related note: you know there are no men in the house if they leave magazines and such beside the toilet.
  13. #11713
    Quote Originally Posted by aubreymcfate View Post
    Sometimes there is piss on the seats in women only restrooms as well. I mean, w t f. Just WTF. How? Why? What did you do?

    Actually that could be the result of people crouching on the lid because of germs, which I understand. Those women are no better (the ones who do that and don't wipe off the tinkle sprinkle). CLEAN THE DAMN SEAT. Fucking nasty people.
    this. so much fucking this.
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  14. #11714
    On a related note, once you have children, particularly boys, you learn to look at the seat. And how anyone doesn't look at the seat and give it a wipe in public I will never know.

    Also, just to point out, Mythbusters did a whole show on germs in public bathrooms. Toilet seats aren't the dirtiest spot in bathrooms. Also, shopping cart handles can have twice the germs of any public toilet seat.
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    Ya, pee is pretty sterile even if does end up on the seat. Your hands, on the other hand, are germ infested awful things. I don't want to know how many germs are on my keyboard. Not that it bothers me a whole lot. I lol at germaphobes.
  16. #11716
    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    On a related note, once you have children, particularly boys, you learn to look at the seat...
    Father of two young boys checking in. Religious seat checking confirmed.
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    Toilet seat: It's on a hinge. Figure it out.

    Sitting in toilet water: People move stuff around... pay attention to where you're going.

    Blaming me when you sit in toilet water: I have no patience for melodrama and invented conflicts, so if you aren't willing to pay attention to your environment, don't pretend it's my fault.
  18. #11718
    Quote Originally Posted by eugmac View Post
    Ya, pee is pretty sterile even if does end up on the seat. Your hands, on the other hand, are germ infested awful things. I don't want to know how many germs are on my keyboard. Not that it bothers me a whole lot. I lol at germaphobes.
    this is true. Remembering that pee is sterile calmed me down a bit. It's still really skeevy to have a stranger's piss on you. Esp a random stranger in NYC.
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  19. #11719
    Look, the point is... Just fucking wipe your piss off of things that other people are going to sit on. And if you don't want to have to worry about moving the stupid seat, just clean the rim if you piss on it. That's it. Paying attention to your environment, which yes, you should do, doesn't mean you have the responsibility of cleaning off other people's pee. That's all I ask.
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  20. #11720
    Quote Originally Posted by Galapogos View Post
    I've gone through the exact same process and am totally on board with you here.

    I held out against this bullshit for my entire relationship but then when my wife was 7+ months pregnant and a month or two after giving birth, it was just a mean fight to keep up. Of course, since I "caved" that meant it would be a bigger battle to go back the proper way. So my solution is to not only lower the toilet seat but to lower the lid as well when I'm done. Now she still has to do the same amount of work as me when she goes to the bathroom and she can't bitch about it because I can argue it looks nicer and that's why the lid's there.
    I like your style.

    Quote Originally Posted by aubreymcfate View Post
    I do somewhat blame myself, but the thing is - I never go out of my way to scrutinize the seat because I always look at it before sitting down and I've always detected piss there. It's been readily apparent, so I didn't feel the need to actually stop and make sure because I've always spotted it first. I have no idea how I didn't see it this time.

    Nonetheless, I don't want to be cleaning some random dickweed's piss off a seat I'm about to sit on. Personal responsibility on my part aside, dude's a gross asshole. I don't think women should be expected to clean piss off seats. Sure you should be careful, and trust me I will be extra careful from now on, but either way it's a really disgusting thing to do.

    Even my brother does it at the house an he's an ostensibly civilized human. I mean, come on. It's not excusable.

    (Lol we are both "I mean come on"ers)
    We're talking about two things here-- one is whether it should be compulsory to put the seat down after pissing, the other is the act of not lifting the seat and pissing on it. The latter is unacceptable, and is completely gross. The only time I do this, is in bars where the bathrooms aren't maintained by the staff and the clientele has already saturated the seat with piss. At that point, it's a free for all, and you may as well enjoy the opportunity to piss all over the place.

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    Enjoy celibacy or homosexuality!
    I do just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Toilet seat: It's on a hinge. Figure it out.

    Sitting in toilet water: People move stuff around... pay attention to where you're going.

    Blaming me when you sit in toilet water: I have no patience for melodrama and invented conflicts, so if you aren't willing to pay attention to your environment, don't pretend it's my fault.
    This.

    Quote Originally Posted by aubreymcfate View Post
    Look, the point is... Just fucking wipe your piss off of things that other people are going to sit on. And if you don't want to have to worry about moving the stupid seat, just clean the rim if you piss on it. That's it. Paying attention to your environment, which yes, you should do, doesn't mean you have the responsibility of cleaning off other people's pee. That's all I ask.
    Again, I don't think anyone is arguing that pissing on the seat is ok. It's not. But the fact is, we live among seat pissers, and so pissed on seats is a fact of life. I wholeheartedly agree that these people are gross-- however I do not sympathize with you for having sat in their urine. You failed to do your due diligence, and you got a strangers pee on your butt. It is your personal responsibility to not come into physical contact with random people's piss, and, like it or not, sometimes wiping a strangers piss off the seat is enveloped in that responsibility.

    (I hate my habit of "I mean..", it's like saying like, like all the time.. yet I really don't care to put the effort into stopping, sooo, I mean, whatever.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    (I hate my habit of "I mean..", it's like saying like, like all the time.. yet I really don't care to put the effort into stopping, sooo, I mean, whatever.)
    A+
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I like your style.



    We're talking about two things here-- one is whether it should be compulsory to put the seat down after pissing, the other is the act of not lifting the seat and pissing on it. The latter is unacceptable, and is completely gross. The only time I do this, is in bars where the bathrooms aren't maintained by the staff and the clientele has already saturated the seat with piss. At that point, it's a free for all, and you may as well enjoy the opportunity to piss all over the place.



    I do just fine.



    This.



    Again, I don't think anyone is arguing that pissing on the seat is ok. It's not. But the fact is, we live among seat pissers, and so pissed on seats is a fact of life. I wholeheartedly agree that these people are gross-- however I do not sympathize with you for having sat in their urine. You failed to do your due diligence, and you got a strangers pee on your butt. It is your personal responsibility to not come into physical contact with random people's piss, and, like it or not, sometimes wiping a strangers piss off the seat is enveloped in that responsibility.

    (I hate my habit of "I mean..", it's like saying like, like all the time.. yet I really don't care to put the effort into stopping, sooo, I mean, whatever.)
    fair enough. It doesn't change the fact that he shouldn't have peed on the seat. (which yes, I know you acknowledged - let's not go back and forth with that, haha). That was my main gripe.

    I also never even mentioned nor thought about the flipping up of the seat - that wasn't even my concern. That convo came after.

    Besides, again... I've seen pee on seats many times in the past before. I DID look at the toilet - I just somehow, no idea how it happened, didn't see it. You're kind of a cold sumabitch for not feeling at least a little bad for me ;P
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    tl;dr people are assholes
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    jesus fucking balls you dorks love talking about piss

    if you piss standing up, your jeans get splatter. otoh, pissing sitting down means there is a non-zero chance your dick touches the inside rim. which is pretty much bay of pigs
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    jesus fucking balls you dorks love talking about piss
    i almost snortloled right in front of my boss
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    I really dislike loudness.
    I will destroy you with sunshine and kittens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelle View Post
    I really dislike loudness.
    plz tell me that means you had speakers rly loud and people around if/when you played the "piss in the ass" video
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer View Post
    plz tell me that means you had speakers rly loud and people around if/when you played the "piss in the ass" video
    Rofl, I wish. That'd be great. But, thankfully I've seen this scene from South Park, and I would know better to play it. No, I just dislike loudness. I don't like yelling, or music that is overly loud when you go to a concert type of thing and you can feel it in your chest. Shit fucks with me.


    so today I had the photoshoot, and dear god, i spent like 2 fucking hours on hair+makeup, mostly on hair, and lol maybe 15-20 minutes worth of posing/photography. I also walked past a huge ass group of teenagers in a park with the outfit/makeup on, because I got lost, boyfran thought it was hilarious, I just kept saying, " I hate my life. Fuck. Fuck. I hate you. This is not funny [boyfrans name], I hate you. " He enjoyed every moment of it.

    But uh, yeah, these pictures are creeping me the fuck out. I look soulless and demented.
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    Supposedly fake but still pretty cool...
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    this is an awesome costume.
  33. #11733
    Wow that is some truly frightening shit. If that image disturbed you as much as it did me then watch this Carrie Pom Pom harajuku video as an antidote.
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    Freakiest clown picture I ever saw, no kidding..
  35. #11735
    Quote Originally Posted by abelardx View Post
    Wow that is some truly frightening shit. If that image disturbed you as much as it did me then watch this Carrie Pom Pom harajuku video as an antidote.
    what. the. fuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelle View Post
    what. the. fuck.
    Did you like that, Chelle? Your avatar is an example of Japanese kawaii or cuteness, stuff like Pikachu. Kyary Pamyu Pamyu is the J-pop princess of kawaii.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abelardx View Post
    Did you like that, Chelle? Your avatar is an example of Japanese kawaii or cuteness, stuff like Pikachu. Kyary Pamyu Pamyu is the J-pop princess of kawaii.
    Hello Kitty is different. J-pop fucking scares me.
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    lip bites are the the hottest thing in the whole god damn world.


    example.




    second example.

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    Bikes has excellent taste in laydees
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    Blondie looks like she's really into it.
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    She looks like a porn star overselling it.

    Edit: Looked it up to see if it was real and here's a video of it. The video's even funnier because her arm is in frame and you can see her reach for him.

    Edit 2: Will include actual video now - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB_Eqg1_6ME
    Last edited by Galapogos; 10-09-2013 at 04:24 PM.


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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    You're too suspicious of women paid to be on camera.
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    After seeing the video, she really does want a slice of that emotional wall of well-accented meat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galapogos View Post
    Edit 2: Will include actual video now - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB_Eqg1_6ME
    Haha awesome. I saw this kind of thing too when the olympics were held in the UK and some of the female reporters weren't quite hiding their admiration.
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    Proof that sexism sucks: women adore awesome muscley man body, but most people don't realize it because women are often looked down upon if they express that, or a related, opinion. It's kinda only after I got fat that I have noticed how big of a difference it is. I used to get soooooooooooooo much attention when I had a really athletic body, but I have gotten very little attention since I added 50 pounds of fat to that.

    Moral of the story: women like sexy bodies as much as men do. We tend to think they don't because they're not "allowed" to
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    It's just a lady looking to open up to his winning demeanor. Shirtless, muscle bound, and vulnerable serves a man well.
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    She is actually a freind of his and his fiance who is also there during the interview, but you can tell she wants some of it.
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    Well that makes even more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supa View Post
    Fuck off. It's my birthday bitches!!!
    Happy fucking birthday!
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer View Post
    Enjoy celibacy or homosexuality!
    No, it's called being a man and not handing your nuts over in a silk purse.
    Once they get such a victory then it's game over and they'll boss every other major decision.
    The seat has a hinge. It's not unreasonable to expect them to use it just as much as men.
    And FYI I'm now happily married to a gorgeous Courtney-Cox-circa-1995 looking woman.
    Last edited by Nemesis; 10-10-2013 at 08:56 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Proof that sexism sucks: women adore awesome muscley man body, but most people don't realize it because women are often looked down upon if they express that, or a related, opinion. It's kinda only after I got fat that I have noticed how big of a difference it is. I used to get soooooooooooooo much attention when I had a really athletic body, but I have gotten very little attention since I added 50 pounds of fat to that.

    Moral of the story: women like sexy bodies as much as men do. We tend to think they don't because they're not "allowed" to
    Yes, some women do adore muscled bodies - as you experienced - but it's nowhere near on the same level as men liking shapely women. It's nothing to do with one man experiences like yours - studies have been carried out not only gauging body language, including swelling (or not) of lips, cheeks and eyes but also measuring the electrical impulses and heart rate of men and women. "Not allowed" doesn't even come into it.

    You got attention from the women who like muscles. My mate gets attention from women who like the cute, little boy look but it doesn't mean women feel socially-compelled to say they prefer Brad Pitt.

    Whilst taste in looks vary, the one constant is that women are attracted to men with power - which harks back to hunter-gather days and the increased chance of survival that meant for her and her offspring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galapogos View Post
    She looks like a porn star overselling it.

    Edit: Looked it up to see if it was real and here's a video of it. The video's even funnier because her arm is in frame and you can see her reach for him.

    Edit 2: Will include actual video now - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB_Eqg1_6ME
    youtube comments, as always, are great. "I swear to god you could drown a toddler in my panties right now."
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    No, it's called being a man and not handing your nuts over in a silk purse.
    Once they get such a victory then it's game over and they'll boss every other major decision.
    The seat has a hinge. It's not unreasonable to expect them to use it just as much as men.
    And FYI I'm now happily married to a gorgeous Courtney-Cox-circa-1995 looking woman.
    YOU DA MAN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Proof that sexism sucks: women adore awesome muscley man body, but most people don't realize it because women are often looked down upon if they express that, or a related, opinion. It's kinda only after I got fat that I have noticed how big of a difference it is. I used to get soooooooooooooo much attention when I had a really athletic body, but I have gotten very little attention since I added 50 pounds of fat to that.

    Moral of the story: women like sexy bodies as much as men do. We tend to think they don't because they're not "allowed" to
    Uh, you're not exactly cracking the case wide open here Holmes. Sexism has been acknowledged for decades now and I don't think anyone here believes women aren't attracted to muscular bodies.

    Someone give wufwugy something to debate, here's getting REALLY bored here!


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
  55. #11755
    When I was a kid I kind of wanted a bird as a pet. My parents would be like, "No, they're gross and their cage smells bad.", so then I stopped wanting a bird. Instead of birds I got cats, and I really love cats. Then I got dogs, and I really love dogs. Then I got two pet rats, and I really liked them.

    Now when I see animals in a cage though, it kind of fucks with me, and it kind of always has on a certain level. When I see wild animals that have been caged, this fucked up part of me wants to go unlock the cage and be like "whatever" if someone gets mauled. Obviously I have more sense than doing this, because I would be mauled in the process, and eventually they'd kill the animal that I let out. All of this kind of smacked me in the face a couple days ago when I went to drop off my painting and at the fair they have some tigers in very small fucking cages, too small for a god damn tiger.

    To me I see it as this, we call ourselves great and mighty creatures, and sure, we are on certain levels. But, when we're treating other creatures with such fucking disrespect for their quality of life, and we're only looking at our financial gain, or how much power it gives us, it's pretty fucked. We're the "civilized" culture, and yet we have so much god damn fucking war, hate, backstabbing, manipulative shit going on in the everyday life, we don't really bat an eyelash unless it really 100% effects us in a way that makes something a little inconvenient. I mean, we're all guilty of it on a certain level, because we've been in this fucked society since birth.

    I feel like I'm becoming some tree-hugger. Idk.
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    I agree with you that cruelty, even negligent cruelty, can be an ugly fact of life to come to terms with. Especially when it seems gratuitous and ignorant.

    The ruthless struggle for power is even more evident in the plant world than the animal world. You can still safely hug trees, but if you're patient and observant, you will notice how trees compete for their resources, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    The ruthless struggle for power is even more evident in the plant world than the animal world.
    You ever seen a tree fight? Very low action, pretty boring, D- would not watch again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Bored by genocide? You're jaded man.
    As a proud veteran of the ADD generation, i demand my genocides be quick and flashy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I agree with you that cruelty, even negligent cruelty, can be an ugly fact of life to come to terms with. Especially when it seems gratuitous and ignorant.

    The ruthless struggle for power is even more evident in the plant world than the animal world. You can still safely hug trees, but if you're patient and observant, you will notice how trees compete for their resources, too.
    Sick quote from Dawkins: “The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so. If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice.”
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    I hate the argument that justifies our own savagery simply because savagery exists in nature (Dawkins doesn't make this argument, but I've still heard it). Go live under an African warlord for a couple years and let me know how well human savagery works out.
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    Possibly worse-- when people willfully remain ignorant of facts because they are comfortable with the implications those facts could be making.

    For example, a popular argument against the ideas of evolution, big bang, etc, because they seem to imply that there is no need for an all powerful guiding hand, is "well, what would be the point then?" You may be uncomfortable with there not being a point, but fortunately your comfort doesn't dictate the veracity of facts.
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    Uh, you're not exactly cracking the case wide open here Holmes. Sexism has been acknowledged for decades now and I don't think anyone here believes women aren't attracted to muscular bodies.

    Someone give wufwugy something to debate, here's getting REALLY bored here!
    I was referencing how much, not just the existence of misunderstanding. Most who claim women feel such n such about so n so sexual thing still view it in quite a diminished way from what it really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    Yes, some women do adore muscled bodies - as you experienced - but it's nowhere near on the same level as men liking shapely women. It's nothing to do with one man experiences like yours - studies have been carried out not only gauging body language, including swelling (or not) of lips, cheeks and eyes but also measuring the electrical impulses and heart rate of men and women. "Not allowed" doesn't even come into it.

    You got attention from the women who like muscles. My mate gets attention from women who like the cute, little boy look but it doesn't mean women feel socially-compelled to say they prefer Brad Pitt.

    Whilst taste in looks vary, the one constant is that women are attracted to men with power - which harks back to hunter-gather days and the increased chance of survival that meant for her and her offspring.
    Show the studies

    I wouldn't make a small-scale anthropological argument on this because foraging societies demonstrate the opposite of what you think. The adoration of power is more of a civilization thing, and equality in sexual expression across the sexes is more of a tribal thing

    It's not a coincidence that with greater equality of the sexes, we find that women have vastly more open and aggressive sexual tastes than they used to mere years/decades ago. We're still deeply in a place where sex and gender roles have substantive impact on what people express about their feelings (or how they're even able to create those feelings in the first place)
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    Got a PR problem with your town's annual dolphin slaughter? Open a Sea World!
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    You know what's really good? Iced coffee and diet coke. I might never sleep again.
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    add free education and the Reserve Bank of Australia, and America would again become the envy of the world
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    Reserve Bank of Australia because it's the only central bank that understands monetary policy includes forward guidance dependent upon the state of the economy. So basically they don't have recessions anymore. Small ones, but when the central bank targets preferred growth level, recessions then are about small unseen blips or real supply shocks. 2008 was neither, it was idiot American central bankers who have always adored manufacturing recessions without realizing they're manufacturing recessions. Same with the Great Depression. Beware prosperity in the US because there's always a few central bankers lurking in the shadows, wary of things not sucking. So they say "hey look it's a bubble, let's pop it." but really all they did was target unusually and unsustainably low growth, and the rest of the economy adjusted to their unnecessary belt tightening
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  74. #11774
    That explain-it guy is really good. I liked the one about What is the UK? That was kinda confusing.
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    Big Japanese pop star goes out on the town. Same age as Miley and the Bieb. Compare and contrast.

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