06-20-2023 02:22 PM
#3151
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06-20-2023 02:30 PM
#3152
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06-20-2023 02:33 PM
#3153
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06-20-2023 02:45 PM
#3154
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06-20-2023 08:12 PM
#3155
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One could use the term loosely to describe a court hastily put together, an ad hoc court if you will. There's another term for such a court. Giraffe court I think. | |
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06-20-2023 08:17 PM
#3156
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Oxford Dictionary, considered by many as "prestige", simply defines it as such... | |
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06-21-2023 05:06 AM
#3157
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Ok, you do that. | |
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06-21-2023 05:14 AM
#3158
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Laws aren't made by courts. What are you talking about? | |
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06-21-2023 08:53 AM
#3159
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06-21-2023 09:21 AM
#3160
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06-21-2023 09:36 AM
#3161
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Your mistake is that you think I'm arguing with you. | |
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06-21-2023 09:48 AM
#3162
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You're not adding anything to the debate, you're just complaining about me calling out Ong's bullshit. If you're so authoritarian that you're going to ban me for arguing with your friend, then go ahead. | |
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06-21-2023 10:10 AM
#3163
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I'm just going to put out that there's a debate about whether or not the Nuremberg Trials were or were not a kangaroo court. That's because the term kangaroo court if very much subjective. | |
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06-21-2023 10:13 AM
#3164
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Are those arguments based on the idea that Nuremberg was powerless and didn't actually hang anyone, or are they concerned with its legitimacy as being set up by the occupying powers? | |
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06-21-2023 10:14 AM
#3165
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06-21-2023 10:15 AM
#3166
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06-21-2023 10:21 AM
#3167
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The point of the Oxford definition is it broadly concurs with the MW one- the kangaroo court is illegimate and doesn't follow what are considered fair procedures according to legal norms. What it doesn't concur with is your argument that a kangaroo court has no power. | |
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06-21-2023 10:22 AM
#3168
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06-21-2023 10:33 AM
#3169
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If there is something going on that is stressing you out beyond this forum, then I'm here to listen about that. | |
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06-21-2023 10:40 AM
#3170
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The only thing bothering me is you. Me and Ong were having a fun debate and then you stuck your nose in and tried to be the referee. I don't want to fight with you either, so let's just leave it. | |
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06-21-2023 10:41 AM
#3171
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06-21-2023 10:45 AM
#3172
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We can agree a kangaroo court is an unfair one or an illegal one, for the most part. The subjectivity arises there. Fair and legal are nowhere near synonymous. Fair is subjective, law is not supposed to be but still is. | |
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06-21-2023 11:03 AM
#3173
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It seemed that you managed to work your way around to a general argument that terms aren't always strictly defined, rather than the specific argument that a kangaroo court is powerless. Ok fine, I would be happy to go along with that. | |
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06-21-2023 11:05 AM
#3174
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06-21-2023 11:08 AM
#3175
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"rather than the specific argument that a kangaroo court is powerless." | |
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06-21-2023 11:28 AM
#3176
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I didn't mean to referee anything, really, though I can see how my statements were in that tone. | |
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06-21-2023 11:34 AM
#3177
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06-21-2023 11:35 AM
#3178
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Wasn't the original point that Bojo saying the parliamentary court was a KC somehow a criminal offense? | |
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06-21-2023 11:39 AM
#3179
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If a court had no power to enforce it's ruling, no-one would give a shit about it, whether it was otherwise fair or not, they'd just ignore it. They'd say 'sure anteater court, I'm sentenced to life on the moon. whatever, your honor. see ya.' | |
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06-21-2023 11:54 AM
#3180
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Not a criminal offense, a contempt of parliament. He couldn't go to jail for it. Afaik the PC's power is limited to suspending MPs from sitting in parliament as an MP for a term anywhere from 1 day to life, and some other relatively minor punishments like taking away their pass so they can't use the tea room for cheap meals or some shit. | |
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06-21-2023 12:03 PM
#3181
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Last edited by Poopadoop; 06-21-2023 at 12:06 PM.
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06-21-2023 12:15 PM
#3182
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06-21-2023 12:19 PM
#3183
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Actually, if it were a kangaroo court, I guess he could say that. The problem for him is that no-one apart from him and a few of his lickspittles actually seem to think that it was a KC. It's just hard to imagine a parliamentary committee being set up, and its members agreed on by everyone in parliament, for the express purpose of railroading an MP. | |
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06-21-2023 12:22 PM
#3184
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06-21-2023 12:22 PM
#3185
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How can anyone be in contempt of an employment tribunal? | |
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06-21-2023 12:27 PM
#3186
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If they are using the word "contempt" to describe someone misleading them or insulting them, then they are behaving like a public authority. That's fine if they are a public authority, which I do believe they are. But they are basically nothing more than an employment tribunal dishing out slaps on wrists to people who are naughty. So they are acting like they have more authority than they do. | |
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06-21-2023 12:35 PM
#3187
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Ok Ong, whatever you say mate. | |
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06-21-2023 12:39 PM
#3188
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He also was facing a recall vote from his constituency for being suspended for more than ten days. He managed to duck that by resigning in disgrace rather than risk being voted out in disgrace by his constituents. | |
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06-21-2023 12:43 PM
#3189
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Motive may not matter in this case, but it does matter in absolute loads of cases. | |
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06-21-2023 12:48 PM
#3190
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06-21-2023 01:11 PM
#3191
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06-22-2023 10:52 AM
#3192
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Is the court of ong a Kangaroo court? Or an Anteater court? Or maybe a Zebra court? | |
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06-22-2023 01:37 PM
#3193
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"I hereby call this Court of Bullshit into order. Lord Ong, presiding." | |
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06-22-2023 01:50 PM
#3194
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With UK inflation and the base rate increase today, those at the poorest end of the scale are in for a rough ride. | |
06-23-2023 07:24 AM
#3195
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I'm not at the poorest end of the scale but I'm also in for a rough ride, with a mortgage renewal due in Feb. '24. Not food bank rough, but £500 more a month in mortgage payments would definitely be something I would feel in my wallet. | |
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06-23-2023 07:30 AM
#3196
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Oh I remember now. Not sure who said it but it was some high profile economist. He said inflation was being caused by a shortage of labour driving up wages and thus prices. He recommended increasing immigration. Too bad we aren't part of some kind of big trade bloc with free movement or labour or something. #MEGA | |
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06-23-2023 07:39 AM
#3197
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Energy prices going down in July according to BG. Don't know if the gov't is still doing the whole tax us to give us subsidies to pay the energy companies record profits thing or not, but if nothing else that should ease inflation. | |
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06-23-2023 09:14 AM
#3198
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You don't have to be a nutter to go on BBC Question Time. But it helps. | |
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06-26-2023 06:11 PM
#3199
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Well it's official now. None of the students in my department are graduating this year, at least not when they're supposed to. First and second-years are also screwed; they can't progress to their next year. | |
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06-26-2023 06:15 PM
#3200
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The Head of our School sent an email around staff a couple of weeks ago asking the people not on strike to do the marking for the people who are on strike. No-one volunteered. Solidarity, muthafuckas. | |
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06-26-2023 06:17 PM
#3201
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I really don't know what's holding this country together right now. It's certainly not Fishi telling everyone to 'hold their nerve.' | |
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06-26-2023 07:00 PM
#3202
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I'm not in favour of striking but even I wouldn't be volunteering to do strikers' work. I'm at least going to respect the strikers' free will, I certainly expect them to respect my decision to work. | |
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06-27-2023 08:49 AM
#3203
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@poopy re wont somebody think of the children! | |
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06-27-2023 11:56 AM
#3204
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07-13-2023 05:25 PM
#3205
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Media pretty quiet about "no graduation for you gate." I guess they got more important things to talk about like that pervy BBC announcer thing. Students are losing their shit; I feel sorry for them. | |
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07-13-2023 05:27 PM
#3206
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First it was "I was too stupid to understand my own covid rules," now it's "I forgot my PIN." | |
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07-13-2023 05:28 PM
#3207
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Oh wait. Good thing someone was keeping an eye on him. | |
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07-23-2023 08:36 AM
#3208
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Goddamn woke Eurolibtards, taking back control of their borders! | |
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07-23-2023 09:29 AM
#3209
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07-23-2023 10:46 AM
#3210
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Personally I refuse to go on holidays unless I'm guaranteed to spend at least 6 hours in a queue. That's what I work towards all year long. | |
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07-24-2023 11:14 AM
#3211
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I'm really not sure how a newspaper feels it's in the public interest to report on a bored family in a queue at a port. | |
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07-24-2023 12:34 PM
#3212
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Last edited by Poopadoop; 07-24-2023 at 12:37 PM.
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07-24-2023 12:56 PM
#3213
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07-24-2023 01:00 PM
#3214
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07-24-2023 01:02 PM
#3215
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And if I needed to go to Amsterdam, then I'm definitely not going Dover-Calais, I'll either fly or go via the East coast directly to Netherlands. Or just get the train from London. | |
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07-24-2023 01:10 PM
#3216
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Lol I just did a distance check on both those routes by car and the Great Yarmouth to Portsmouth drive is one minute shorter than Amsterdam to Calais. | |
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07-24-2023 01:23 PM
#3217
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I mean I'll have to take your word for it because I've never even heard of Great Yarmouth. But presumably they have to go through customs there too? So not sure how that make things any faster. | |
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07-24-2023 01:31 PM
#3218
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Just be American, damn it. | |
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07-24-2023 02:31 PM
#3219
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07-24-2023 02:42 PM
#3220
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To emphasise the point about how ludicrous it is to blame Brexit, this woman could have faced exactly the same delay travelling from the Isle of Wight to the mainland. You don't just walk on their ferries without them knowing who you are, so if there's nobody to do that, you're not sailing. | |
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07-24-2023 03:21 PM
#3221
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07-24-2023 03:31 PM
#3222
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The delays aren't because they can't load the boats fast enough at Dover, it's because they take forever to unload at Calais. There's only so many boats in the ferry fleet. | |
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07-24-2023 03:33 PM
#3223
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Oh, and naturally the port authorities are blaming the French for not having enough customs agents. Like it's their fault we left the EU and made it a lot more work for them to process tourists from the UK. Pathetic. | |
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07-24-2023 09:03 PM
#3224
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The Guardian are literally saying that the delays were caused by a technical fault in the Channel Tunnel, which in turn caused French workers delays getting to work. Link in your link. Point is, that can happen to anyone, from the captain to the cleaners. If staff can't get to work, delays happen. | |
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07-25-2023 03:50 AM
#3225
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You're like the guy who, when someone points out inflation is higher here than anywhere in the G7 ever since Brexit and points out the logic of why that is happening, turns around and says 'we've always had inflation, it's not a new thing,' like that's supposed to be an argument. | |
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