NFL week 2 Thread

[Lukie]

The Browns FO spent the entire offseason, all the minicamps, practices, training camp, and preseason, with a QB controversy. I was confident that they 'knew what they were doing' and was satisfied when Romeo Crennel, the coach that never has his team pumped up and ready to play, or pumped up OR ready to play, said he had a plan.

Alas, Charlie Frye was named the starter. No reason to throw Brady Quinn to the wolves just yet, especially facing some tough defenses early in the year. Midway through the second quarter he was benched, and got traded to Seattle for a likely-worthless '08 draft pick. THIS WAS OUR STARTING FREAKING QUARTERBACK.

:bullet in head:

cincy by 30.

[Lukie]

fwiw, I said steelers by 30+ last week a few minutes into the game and I was confident in that prediction. didn't quite get there but only because Tomlin showed some class and didn't run up the score.

[bode]

wait, what happened to Brady Quinn? i didnt get to watch any football this weekend.

[Zee Devee]

Week 2: Favre will throw all over the Giants. Packers on their way to a perfect season.

[Lukie]

wait, what happened to Brady Quinn? i didnt get to watch any football this weekend.

He's the new #2. He missed 16 days of training camp.

My prediction is that when the rough stretch early in the season is over.. which includes the patriots and 3 division games, things will be cleared for him to play. maybe in week 8, after the bye.

I think the Browns have a really solid, young QB corps. It's gonna take a little time though.

[UG]

did you really mean to call this post the "Week Two Cleveland Browns Thread" by chance?



P.S. If the Browns played the Chiefs this year I think it would set professional football back at least fifteen years, maybe more.

[Anosmic]

At least with the Chiefs the Bears could possibly win either if they can't keep hold of a football.

[ns78711]

I watched the 49ers game last night. Even though they played a rough side of the offense I can see 49ers maybe making the playoffs this year. What do you think?

[bigred]

Week 2: Favre will throw all over the Giants. Packers on their way to a perfect season.

I will be at this game, look for me!!!!!

Sunday night pats vs chargers is best game of weekend.

LT, all your signals are belong to us.

[Hawk]

I don't know anything about Frye, though I assume if he was starting (even on a bad team) he's probably not a horrible guy for a backup.

This was a good pickup for us, not so much because of Frye himself, but it allows us to use Seneca Wallace as a WR now that DJ Hackett is out for a while.

I was a little disappointed that we traded Bryce Fisher to make room for him, but that was more because he was a good guy, easy to root for, than because he was a great player.

I thought it was very strange though to go from #1 guy, to being benched 20 mins into week 1, then traded for almost nothing...I wonder if he pissed someone off somehow.

[mcatdog]

Other than Indianapolis, New England, and San Diego which are obviously the three best teams in the NFL right now, which teams do people think actually have a chance to do anything this year?

I think Pittsburgh, Chicago, Seattle, Cincinnati, and Baltimore all look pretty good, and I'm not too impressed with Denver, New Orleans, or Philadelphia. Any other teams worth mentioning?

[kmind]

Panthers obv.

[Lukie]

did you really mean to call this post the "Week Two Cleveland Browns Thread" by chance?



P.S. If the Browns played the Chiefs this year I think it would set professional football back at least fifteen years, maybe more.

The Browns DID play the Chiefs this year. Game 1 of the preaseason.

I know, you shouldn't put too much stock in the preseason. The chiefs really stood out in how bad and horribly unprepared and uninspired they were, though.

Browns -3 vs Chiefs in the regular season on a neutral field? Or am I giving my team too much respect?

[Lukie]

I watched the 49ers game last night. Even though they played a rough side of the offense I can see 49ers maybe making the playoffs this year. What do you think?

Nolan is super calm on the sidelines (looks good in a suit too), but he had the 49ers JACKED. Willis was all over the place. I dunno though, it's hard to say. I've never been high on Alex Smith to be honest.

[Lukie]

I don't know anything about Frye, though I assume if he was starting (even on a bad team) he's probably not a horrible guy for a backup.

This was a good pickup for us, not so much because of Frye himself, but it allows us to use Seneca Wallace as a WR now that DJ Hackett is out for a while.

I was a little disappointed that we traded Bryce Fisher to make room for him, but that was more because he was a good guy, easy to root for, than because he was a great player.

I thought it was very strange though to go from #1 guy, to being benched 20 mins into week 1, then traded for almost nothing...I wonder if he pissed someone off somehow.

He's a good, hardworking guy. Drafted early in the 3rd round a few years ago.. he just doesn't have the skill-set to be an NFL starting QB though (IMO). Too weak of an arm and he looked like a deer in headlights against Pitt, and that's an understatement.

I went into the season thinking that whoever was the starter, Frye or Anderson, would probably be the worst starting QB in the league, or at least very close. I think they are both serviceable backups and both have in-game regular season experience. Frye has more of that (and more teams were probably interested in him), but Anderson has the bigger arm and more upside.

basic summary: Frye will pick up the offense quicker than most and be an OK backup. It'll let Holmgren use all sorts of goofy plays with Wallace if that's what he chooses to do.

[Lukie]

Other than Indianapolis, New England, and San Diego which are obviously the three best teams in the NFL right now, which teams do people think actually have a chance to do anything this year?

I think Pittsburgh, Chicago, Seattle, Cincinnati, and Baltimore all look pretty good, and I'm not too impressed with Denver, New Orleans, or Philadelphia. Any other teams worth mentioning?

I really like Denver to be a real solid team this year. I think they are going to push SD hard for the division title.

They played pretty poorly this week though and are very lucky to have a win. I expect them to bounce back and mop up vs the raiders.

[a500lbgorilla]

Pats are cheaters.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

REDSKINS

[Jack Sawyer]

This week:

bet against the giants obv. Its pick right now.
Also bet moneyline against bills. The guy who was paralized was a terrible blow, they still didn't recover. Team spirit down.

I'll be making parlays full of favorites now, except those two in which i'll bet against them no matter what.

easy parlay
PIT
CIN
MIN
TB
DAL

and upset TEN

Lemme see if I'm still rusty.

[WildBobAA]

This week:

bet against the giants obv. Its pick right now.
Also bet moneyline against bills. The guy who was paralized was a terrible blow, they still didn't recover. Team spirit down.

I'll be making parlays full of favorites now, except those two in which i'll bet against them no matter what.

easy parlay
PIT
CIN
MIN
TB
DAL

and upset TEN

Lemme see if I'm still rusty.

The Lions are going to fuck the VIkings up

[bigspenda73]

easy parlay

lolololololololololololol

and ppl wonder why the casinos are so fucking huge.

[mcatdog]

I'll be making parlays full of favorites now, except those two in which i'll bet against them no matter what.

easy parlay
PIT
CIN
MIN
TB
DAL

and upset TEN

Lemme see if I'm still rusty.

[Jack Sawyer]

You uys laugh it up all you want

I'm talking current spread here, though. It doesn't matter who wins or loses, as long as you beat the spread.
Except in the GB game. What's NYG gonna do without Eli, Osi, and their #1 RB? Hmmm...


Also, will TEN get a beating by IND?

[Jack Sawyer]

Nice pic, mcatdog

[Jack Sawyer]

The Lions are going to fuck the VIkings up

hang on, lemme check the lions depth chart to know for sure

[Jack Sawyer]

The Lions are going to fuck the VIkings up

hang on, lemme check the lions depth chart to know for sure

Ok, here goes


Minnesotta:

* MIN are 9-2 ATS in their last 11 vs. NFC North.
* MIN are 14-5 ATS in their last 19 vs. NFC.

Detroit:

* DET are 3-8 ATS in their last 11 vs. NFC.

And I get 3 points free.
I think I'm taking MIN here.

[bigspenda73]

last year means nothing

The lines right now mean nothing

It's a lot of blind luck this early in the season, the oddsmakers will not have a handle on it for a little while, so try to find some exploitable lines and bet 'em big!

[Hawk]

And now for something completely different...

Who is that in your avatar 'spenda? I wouldn't have expected that one of the best looking avatars here would have a fully clothed beauty.

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming...

[dev]

natalie gulbis... it says on the back of the bike.

[lolzzz_321]

will the chiefs score a point v Chicago this week?

[Lukie]

Who are the 5 WORST teams in the NFL right now? Use whatever criteria you want.

In no particular order, I want to say:

chiefs
raiders
browns
falcons
i don't know

[Lukie]

there are too many bad teams to choose from and i'm not sure i want to group them with any of those 4 teams just yet.

[WildBobAA]

Chiefs
Raiders
Falcons
Browns
Cardinals

[mcatdog]

Chiefs
Browns
Falcons
Buccaneers
Dolphins

I think the Raiders could be a little bit better than that but they'll still be like 6-10.

[lolzzz_321]

The Cardinals Bob, you're [censored] retarded

[IowaSkinsFan]

Dolphins Defense is too good to be that bad.

Buccaneers I think will be the worst.

[WildBobAA]

The Cardinals Bob, you're [censored] retarded

I thought they had a shot to do something this year and they still may but they just looked awful against the 49ers. They are certainly worse than the Seahawks and Rams so if they can't beat the 3rd best team in their division when that team is playing horrible too, who can they beat?

It could have been just a nightmare game but they get my vote for one of the top 5 worst right NOW.

[Lukie]

fwiw, cardinals and bucs were my 2 obvious choices to put in the bottom 5, but i want to see how both of them play in week 2 to decide.

ARI did look pathetic at times vs the 49ers on monday night though.

[a500lbgorilla]

Chiefs
Browns
Falcons
Buccaneers
Dolphins

I think the Raiders could be a little bit better than that but they'll still be like 6-10.

I disagree on the Dolphins. Solid D does not make for a bottom 5 teams unless ...

BOOM half a mil on BelliCHEAT + no first round pick in '08 hahahah

[mcatdog]

Well the Raiders had the best defense in the NFL last year (yes, they did) and they were the worst team in the NFL anyway. I don't think you can come up with a formula like "can't be bottom 5 if their D is solid" and besides the Dolphins offense is like worst in the NFL bad.

I agree they're the most questionable of the teams I picked.

[WildBobAA]

football is on

fox isn't carrying an early game in this area so i'm stuck watching colts/titans until the lions play at 4

[lolzzz_321]

I get to watch the Panthers and Texans!

[WildBobAA]

plz make the chiefs beat the bears

[lolzzz_321]

sry, no can do

[Anosmic]

How are the Browns only winning by 6?

[Lukie]

How are the Browns only winning by 6?

like poker, football is also rigged.

see: TD pass to TJ hoozyahmomma that didn't get overturned

[givememyleg]

i swear if cleveland wins

i picked cin in week 1 of the survival league

[Lukie]

i swear if cleveland wins

i picked cin in week 1 of the survival league

cincy beat baltimore in week 1 yo

[WildBobAA]

lol at the saints

[givememyleg]

34 - 24

[givememyleg]

i swear if cleveland wins

i picked cin in week 1 of the survival league

cincy beat baltimore in week 1 yo

ya i meant week 2... our league started week 2 since it was a last minute decision

[givememyleg]

40 - 31 wtfffffffffff

[Lukie]

As I told trip earlier, the Browns WILL find a way to lose this game.

It's 41-38 right now, browns starting their drive on their ~10 yard line when commercials end.

[Lukie]

browns pass protection just looks spectacular today... i knew we gave our LG $20+M guaranteed and drafted a LT at #3 overall for a reason.

[givememyleg]

48 - 38 /sigh

[givememyleg]

i hate my life

[givememyleg]

1:04 left, no tos, 92 yds, PLEASE GOD

[givememyleg]

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[UG]

Cincy was favored by seven or eight points and I was going to BET THE HOUSE on this game, err, bet all of the money I had left on Bodog......glad I didn't do it!

[WildBobAA]

THE LIONS ARE THE FUCKING SHIT

[Anosmic]

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I was rooting for the Browns and look what happened

I'm available for Week 3 at reasonable rates

Now to cheer the Bears to 40+ pts

[Anosmic]

Commentatorsnotsureoftherulesaments

[a500lbgorilla]

Trade Frank Gore (RB - SF) and Lee Evans (WR - BUF) for Steven Jackson (RB - STL) and Reggie Brown (WR - PHI)?

I have McNabbers as my QB

[WildBobAA]

ugh, kitna got hurt and now our offense looks like shit

[Anosmic]

Commentatorsnotsureoftherulesaments

[givememyleg]

why does nfl.com say the det min game is 17 - 11? im confused

[WildBobAA]

why the fuck does JT O'Sullivan suck so horribly

[UG]

WTF HAPPENED TO KITNA I HAVE HIM IN ALL THREE OF MY FANTASY LEAGUES MOTHER FUCKER BETTER NOT HAVE DIED


I know he's injured, but how bad? What's the story?



P.S. Chiefs suck, Devin Hester is a pretty good player. That is all.

[lolzzz_321]

Trade Frank Gore (RB - SF) and Lee Evans (WR - BUF) for Steven Jackson (RB - STL) and Reggie Brown (WR - PHI)?

I have McNabbers as my QB

no

[lolzzz_321]

GEROGE DID U C THAT FUCKING FLEA FLICKER TD THAT JUST GOT CALLED BACK

sadjoasihfoewrhofhighvasdfghlsdfnvgls

[a500lbgorilla]

Trade Frank Gore (RB - SF) and Lee Evans (WR - BUF) for Steven Jackson (RB - STL) and Reggie Brown (WR - PHI)?

I have McNabbers as my QB

no

Thanks for the insightful response.

[givememyleg]

uh oh here goes longwell

[givememyleg]

OFF THE GOAL POST YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

[givememyleg]

wowow that was so close

[givememyleg]

go lions wheeee