so Tapie proposed that he would pay the Rest of the worlds $184m by putting up $16m and then forcing the rest of the world to deposit and rake the remaining $168m.....wow ...just wow no doubt there'd be no rakeback either.
04-24-2012 08:48 PM
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so Tapie proposed that he would pay the Rest of the worlds $184m by putting up $16m and then forcing the rest of the world to deposit and rake the remaining $168m.....wow ...just wow no doubt there'd be no rakeback either. |
04-24-2012 09:06 PM
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04-24-2012 09:44 PM
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04-25-2012 03:04 AM
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yeah agreed GBT plan sounded pretty restrictive / horrible. At most, I would expect or hope that they would gradually unfreeze larger balances, but not release it as though it were some bonus you were entitled to (more or less). | |
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04-25-2012 05:29 AM
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Don't understand the concerns about a stars monopoly. The situation is no different to the current state of play. Sure some people may come back to FTP to play enough or whatever to withdraw. If they left stars in the first place for lack bonus/rakeback etc I can't see them heading back to ftp for what will inevitably be similar rewards system. |
04-25-2012 05:48 AM
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I also do not understand why people think that if stars buys FTP they would make it identical to stars with FULL TILT POKER written on top. | |
04-25-2012 07:10 AM
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04-25-2012 12:00 PM
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Even if they run two seperate brands it must make sense to run one player pool, tourney schedule etc, bigger tourneys->bigger prizes-> lures in the fish |
04-25-2012 12:07 PM
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04-25-2012 01:51 PM
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Why would they try and adapt the Full tilt software. Just redesign the stars table graphics into Full tilt Graphics. Its no different than what happens on merge, ipoker etc.Noone knows how many of the Full Tilt programmers are still employed .Massive cost saving if they don't have to rehire the programmers , fraud/security, customer support . |
04-25-2012 02:01 PM
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A lot of people who liked FTP more, liked it because they preferred the software. Skinning stars wouldn't satisfy any of those people, and then there's still the work of translating all of the FTP account data into stars, which is quite likely to be non-trivial. | |
04-25-2012 03:01 PM
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there never was any rush patent afaik | |
04-25-2012 03:02 PM
#1063
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although I've never really understood how much that matters | |
04-25-2012 03:53 PM
#1064
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04-25-2012 04:05 PM
#1065
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<3 full tilt software. I know a lot of grinders and mtt' pros who feel the same way. | |
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04-25-2012 05:09 PM
#1066
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ya, ftp's software was way better than stars. | |
04-25-2012 06:40 PM
#1067
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^ And these are the types of players PS can attract by simply not touching anything on the FTP software side. | |
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04-25-2012 06:57 PM
#1068
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I think they would start off by just relaunching the current FTP software, but within a year they'd merge the softwares/networks. It just doesn't make a ton of sense for them to maintain two development teams, two support teams, etc etc. Esp when there is only an initial benefit, but long run the benefit lies in having the biggest singular network with the biggest guarantees, limits spread, etc. | |
04-25-2012 06:58 PM
#1069
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furthermore, everyone seems to be assuming that if they chose to go with one software over the other for both networks that it would be the Stars software. | |
04-25-2012 07:32 PM
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how many people are left at FTP who know the software to maintain /upgrade it .If theres no one left ,it makes no sense to get people to spend time understanding the progam . |
04-25-2012 07:35 PM
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04-26-2012 03:56 AM
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There would have been strategic advantages for the other networks to hire FTP programmers especially once the tapie deal was being considered to sabotage a potential competitor. |
04-26-2012 06:22 AM
#1073
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as always, keith is willing to fight to the death on random sticking points. give it up guys | |
04-26-2012 06:55 AM
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04-26-2012 08:46 AM
#1075
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So when can I reopen my neteller account and deposit for that sign up bonus? | |
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04-26-2012 09:08 AM
#1076
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I'm afraid online poker in the US is only available to mac users | |
04-26-2012 10:16 AM
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04-27-2012 01:30 PM
#1078
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HOW CAN I OBSESSIVELY F5 WHEN 2+2 IS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!! | |
04-27-2012 02:04 PM
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04-27-2012 03:24 PM
#1080
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2+2 being down for this long is weird.. I can't remember when this happened before. | |
04-27-2012 04:18 PM
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04-27-2012 05:56 PM
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04-30-2012 08:27 AM
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Poker legal yet? | |
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04-30-2012 11:02 AM
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04-30-2012 08:58 PM
#1085
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Government is really what would be driving who gets to run games in the US. So that concerns me a lot more on the monopoly front. | |
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05-02-2012 06:38 PM
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05-02-2012 10:46 PM
#1087
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05-03-2012 02:12 AM
#1088
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FB would never do eeet | |
05-05-2012 08:30 PM
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05-05-2012 08:48 PM
#1090
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From da home page: | |
05-15-2012 02:35 PM
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PokerStars & Full Tilt Poker announcement end of May : The iGaming Post |
05-15-2012 04:13 PM
#1092
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fucking tits. | |
05-16-2012 02:32 AM
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05-16-2012 10:00 PM
#1094
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Erm...wow. I'll be very sad if we aren't on PokerStars in 18 months. | |
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05-17-2012 03:26 AM
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07-02-2012 02:38 PM
#1096
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Raymond Bitar surrendered today (July 2, 2012) in New York. Also included is the email that went out to the staff in Dublin. | |
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07-02-2012 04:36 PM
#1097
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every time I think I'm numb, we get news and I realize I'm far from numb | |
07-02-2012 05:30 PM
#1098
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I had forgot about "my" money.. then we get another little sliver of hope, just enough to string us along. | |
07-02-2012 07:48 PM
#1099
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Can't wait to be able to take "boost's" money again soon! | |
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07-03-2012 03:10 AM
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meh, I didn't think my use of quotes was that bad. I was trying to allude to the fact that the money isn't really mine at this point since it doesn't exist at this point. I did deliberate for a few seconds over how to get this point across. However, in the end, I can't say I am completely happy with my decision to use quotes in this way. | |
07-03-2012 03:14 AM
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07-03-2012 04:00 AM
#1102
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"""You can" all go" fuck yourselves." | |
07-03-2012 05:32 AM
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The fact that I never sent in ID or bank details to fulltilt as I was staked via an on site funds transfer and never withdrew any cash makes me think I'll never be seeing "my" money at all. Fortunately I returned the stake via a player transfer which my staker got out in time so at least I didn't end up with a 2k debt. | |
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07-03-2012 07:33 AM
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Why are "you" all so angry? | |
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07-03-2012 03:21 PM
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obv it is good that you transferred back, but I'm pretty sure that no one is treating staking funds lost in this way as a debt. Maybe if you had a general poker backing, to play live, and on multiple sites, and you chose to play on FTP, then maybe it should be treated as a debt. But if the backer backed you on FTP specifically, then he is assuming this risk imo. At least that is my opinion, and the opinion of my backer. I obviously owe him money, but only if that money should ever become available. | |
07-03-2012 03:41 PM
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I imagine he'd have taken that approach, he's a cool guy and much wealthier than me, but it was done very informally, so I'm glad it wasn't a conversation we had to have. I'm more concerned about the fact that there is very little linking me to my account. | |
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07-04-2012 06:41 AM
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Ya, that sucks that you aren't verified. Do you at least still have access to the email you used with the account? Having the email and knowing your login/pass should get you your money should PS buy FTP. If it was the DOJ dolling out the funds, then I think you'd be screwed. But with PS behind the wheel, I can't imagine why it would be harder for you to get your funds, with your unverified account, than it would have been pre-black Friday. | |
07-04-2012 01:17 PM
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[url=http://pokerupdate.com/news/the-full-tilt-saga/ray-bitar-pleads-not-guilty-2-5-million-bail-set/]PokerUpdate | |
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07-04-2012 02:52 PM
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just reading the link, this does not seem so good. | |
07-05-2012 09:31 AM
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wat? seems like if stars is paying all FTP salaries for july and new employment contracts will take effect after this month, that can only be a good thing. obviously there is still a good chance that nothing goes through, but i'll take this as good news that stars will go through with the purchase. | |
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07-05-2012 03:48 PM
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bikes link... pleading not guilty is not typically part of a plea agreement. If something was setup for Bitar to take the fall, but get a reduced sentence, so the deal can go through, then why would he be pleading not guilty? That's what you do when you want to fight the charges. | |
07-05-2012 04:28 PM
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idk, i'm in your same position of not being well versed, but i don't see why pleading either way would help/hurt the sale of the company. | |
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07-05-2012 05:13 PM
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well, if Bitar's return to the states was supposed to be part of the DOJ approving the sale, then it would seem odd that things don't seem to be going according to what Bitar had hoped. No bail, new charges, pleading not guilty, etc. If there was a deal, why would any of his have happened? | |
07-06-2012 03:49 AM
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330m spends quicker than you would think | |
07-13-2012 02:56 PM
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i really want to stop updating this thread tbh -.- | |
Last edited by bikes; 07-13-2012 at 03:06 PM.
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07-13-2012 03:11 PM
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sad news if true | |
Last edited by givememyleg; 07-13-2012 at 03:19 PM. | |
07-13-2012 03:18 PM
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lol i'm good at linking to articles too, wtf? | |
07-13-2012 05:01 PM
#1118
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FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU | |
07-13-2012 06:18 PM
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07-27-2012 01:27 PM
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http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/...ions-can-12310 | |
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07-27-2012 01:57 PM
#1121
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in the likely event u can't get this to load because it's trending everywhere. | |
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07-27-2012 02:34 PM
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Diamond Flush @Diamond_Flush | |
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07-27-2012 03:20 PM
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555555555 | |
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07-27-2012 03:37 PM
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^icwudt | |
07-27-2012 03:45 PM
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Kevin Mathers @Kevmath | |
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