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Originally Posted by LuckySlevin
Hey guys thanks for the comments, fulsky and mrhappy thanks for the continued encouragement! Harley yes I need to set an amount to take with me to help me from spewing too many bi's away if I start playing poorly - but it's a finebalance between having a safety mechanism and having something that just limits your effectiveness (e.g. travel 1.5 hours lose 2bi's and not be able to continue) so am still trying to figure that out.
Thats the whole point of having a roll large enough to play at the stakes that you are though. Through all of the posts trying to tell you this obver the years you have never let it sink in. You think you are good enough to be playing 200nl ,but forget that you don't have the roll to play it effectively allowing for variance that comes your way.
Weasel yes that was a dash not minus sign!
Lots to update today! I worked so hard this weekend... here is how it went.
When I woke up after my last post, I decided buy in wise I would take 4bi's with me I thought this would give me enough to not have to worry about running out, but still safeguard some as a kind of stop loss. So I left £500 in bank and took £800 with me.
My God , some discipline. maybe theres some hope for you. Note the use of "some" discipline.Also, Do you actually allow for your method of getting home. i.e have a season ticket on the train ,or return ticket etc , or do you get back to the station after the casino and have to buy a ticket.If so, do you have that return fareseperated from money thats going on the table or if you "bust" are you unable to get home?.2.5 hours travelling to casino by train implies a fair distance if you end up having to walk/hitch.
I got to the casino about 9.30PM by 11PM I had lost 4 bi's. I have myself to blame totally. I played too loose, calling too light. Table was full of short stacks and I started calling their shoves with marginal hands e.g AT AJ etc. I usually was flipping and lost.
I asked last time whether you had studied any shortstacking strategy. Opposite of this also applies , have you studied the ranges they are shoving and come up with a calling range so that you can profitably call there shoves. The fact you were calling with AT,AJ implies that you should get pokerstove out and work on finding what you can call with.
I also tried a couple of bluffs that didn't work. As my play deteriorated I could feel the emotional side of me taking over, I was very annoyed to be losing money to people I regarded as fish (I have to change this mindset). So with 4bi's down I was left with £500 in bank (and I'd left card at home deliberately).
hooray , well done on leaving the card at home .Boo at having blown over half your roll in a couple of hours.This all comes back to bankroll management issues that you have always had. You think that it doesn't apply to you, the fact that you go on tilt and spew is precisely why you should be trying to have a lot more control over what you can afford to play.
I got train home, on way home I had a chance to think about the situation and once again swore to myself I must eradicate this C game from my play. I decided I would go home get my money from card and go back the same evening. I swore to myself I would play perfect poker and work hard and if I did I would get my 4bi's back + interest. This was a tall order, but I just told myself it's possible if I play well. So I did go home, by now trains had stopped (12am) so I got a taxi back to Casino.
WTF, this sounds typical of the lack of emotional control that you say that you are determined to beat. Instead of working on what ranges you could call shorties shoves with, getting some sleep and clearing your mind, getting over the loss of half your roll etc, exercising the discipline that made you leave the 500 and card "safe at home",It sounds like you were tilted and it was now all or nothing time. You were going to get your losses back despite having played poorly so far that night.
Got back in at about 12:45AM sunday morning. I played through from 12:45AM until 2.30PM today. I played very well and despite losing AK vs AQ on K73 flop, when villian spikes queen on turn, I managed to get myself into decent spots and make some good money, some very good money.
how does AK lose to AQ with K73Q. flush or runner runer?
The last cash table I played on I was on for about 3 hours, I created a loose image by entering alot of pots and being quite aggressive, when I picked up hands people gave me no credit and stacked off against me. I also won a big 3 way pot with QQ which I'll recap briefly now as it was the biggest pot of this OP.
Rich lady who pulls out money like it's printed in her handbag, and just like to gamble (in her own words) - raise my ep raise to 29, I had initally raised to 8 with QQ. Loose player who's deep and has been winning alot of hands with improbbable hands raises to 80. I decide I'm waaaaaaay ahead of both of them so reraise to 200. My idea here is rich lady only has another 130 behind, so I was intending for her to call and loose deep guy to fold and then I'm HU to to the flop with an overlay in the pot which seemed like an ideal scenario. What actually happened was rich lady called and loose deep stack flatted...
ok so you get 3bet and then 4bet and decide that you are way ahead so 5bet to 100bb. You've now put 1/3 of your stack in and if the guy shoves you can't really fold and do you really want 300bb going up against a 6bet shove range even if he is a loose player?.It doesn't sound like you even considered that possibility.Seconly , if rich lady calls , the pot is then giving him good pot and implied odds to call and see a flop,not to fold him out.
Now I have like 400 behind at the flop.
flop is J63 - and he bets 50. I decided I need to know where I'm at now before I put any more money in the pot (I'm putting him on AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK) when he flatted my 200 raise. Just because it wouldn't suprise me if he tried to trap me.
so I reraised to 120. So I have like 280 behind now. He flats my reraise.
so you put him on a range with 6 AA,6KK 3JJ beating you and you beat 16 combos of AK and tie with 1 combo of QQ. So you think are behind and now make him call 70 to hit an Aor K with his AK combos that you beat with 800 in the pot.you've also now got over hald of your stack in the pot and a massive % of your total bankroll already committed to the pot.
Turn pairs the jack. so board reads J63J and he checks and I check. River is a blank and he leads out for 75. I call because of the price - and he mucks. I beat him, what's more I also beat rich lady... It was a huge pot worth about £600
pot was nearly £1000 and profit was 600. Were the risks really justified with your bankroll though?
I decided to come off the cash table after this as I know sometimes if I have a very deep stack I can start to spew chips. Instead I entered a 42 runner turbo sng £15 rebuy. I thought this would be a good way to end the epic 12 hour session... six hours later am still playing and cut a long story short I took it down for £500.
Why weren't you playing these from the start. You'd have had a lot more buyins.
All in all with the combined profit from the mamoth session I played, the big pot hand, and the 1st place finish in donkamanet - bankroll is now at.... £2900 !
I think this is the day I can finally say I've made it. I don't see myself looking back after this result. I still have a lot to do, particularly focussing around my discipline in folding, and not bluffing. But my play so far is proving very profitable! I'm very close now to my target of 3k by end of month, would just need another 4 or so bi's and I'll be there which is great. I'm really pleased with the work I've put into my game so far and the hours upon hours I'm spending playing.
You are nowhere near having made it yet. You are getting way to results orientated. You have to focus on your own discipline in all aspects from folding hands , to actual sticking to your stop loss limits for a day. You are saying that this sessions profits are due to profitable play. The huge pot could easily have gone the other way though as you were potentially flipping massively deep with a large % of your roll commited.
Thanks for the support! Hope you're all having a good weekend !
I'm not a hater, I want to see you succeed at this . But you need to accept that wins can come from bad play and losses can come from good play, not just put all your wins down to good play.
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