Just do it the British way.
Avoid all eye contact until you drunk enough. Then take her round the back of Lidl and fuck her.
EZ game.
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Just do it the British way.
Avoid all eye contact until you drunk enough. Then take her round the back of Lidl and fuck her.
EZ game.
Against all odds, there's actually good advice in this thread.
I think the most important thing was don't be a pussy. Bikes' pic summed it up well. Girls who are cute know they are cute. Because every fucking loser around them 24 hours a day makes them realize they are cute. Even if they don't admit it to themselves, they know that they can pretty much bang every guy around because every guy makes it known in some way that they want to bang her.
Except for the guy who doesn't give a shit. The guy who is married, or has a hot girlfriend, or gets laid by 3 different chicks every night. "Yeah, hey, you're OK, you've got tits, great. Fuck you, I bang 20 girls hotter than you a month."
That guy makes her all wet and moist and she'll do anything she can to get his attention and bang him. That's why hot chicks end up banging married dudes or douchebags instead of a mirrion nice guys who won't even cum in her mouth.
I'm 100% sure every guy can verify this: When you go through periods of being single/alone/desperate and having a decent relationship, you get exponentially more attention and interest from random women when you are feeling happy about yourself, confident, etc.
So, don't arrange a meet before you have figured out your fall back convo.
Other than that, chat to her online on at least 3 different days before suggesting a meet. During those 3 days just be yourself and chat about whatever it is you've been up to or has been going on and see if you can build up some sort of rapport. If you can't, you're fucked. On to the next one. Except there is no next one, because you're a Pussy. But we're attempting to fix that. But seriously, just be yourself, she's going to discover what you are sooner or later if this goes anywhere so no point hiding it. If you truly have nothing if interest to offer her in a 10 min chat then she isnt for you.
Assuming you somehow manage to hold an online conversation for a minimum of 10 minutes on 3 separate occasion (I know, big ask) you should have some vague idea of her interests, assuming you haven't spent the whole of that time fapping whilst imaging her holding your hand. So use this info about her to suggest a date doing something she is interested in. This could be a coffee, a drink(much better), a walk somewhere, a fetish club, a game of tennis, I dunno, anything, w/e you think she might be willing to do.
If you get that far, celebrate your win. Things may go down hill from here.
Yep. Work on your fundamentals so that every week you feel stronger, healthier, better looking, funnier and better at conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by eugmac
Get out of your comfort zone.
I was in a similar situation to OP a couple of years ago and was really frustrated. I decided to work on my fundamentals, so I got myself some new clothes, started going to the gym, and started talking to a lot of women, regardless of situation. After a few months I got confident enough that I just thought fuck it - if someone's attracted to me, great, if not, who cares, I feel fundamentally good enough about myself that I don't care either way. The way that things panned out, a hot girl who I'd been friends with for a few months made the first move on me. We're still together almost 18 months later. I'm not sure if I've ever been so scared as I was when it came to losing my virginity, but that was just another situation where I had to get out of my comfort zone. After a week of not-so-great sex, I finally felt comfortable and things have been awesome since then. She wasn't an isolated incident either, since then I've had quite a few offers from hot girls, which I've turned down because I'm a faithful man who loves his other half.
In your position you will probably stumble upon PUA stuff like Mystery Method, etc. This stuff is entirely unnecessary in the long term, and a lot of its proponents have a very unhealthy attitude towards women and human interaction.
So yeah, work on fundamentals and self-confidence and the rest really will fall into place. Nature wants you to find someone and fuck like rabbits, fall in love, or both, you just have to get yourself correct for that to happen.
For more specific advice look here, this post changed my life: My big post on getting better with women by - TwoRags.com
Nobody here has guessed even close, and to OP
Your over thinking and under producing. What you want here is results, not to keep talking so she never says no. Your trying to hard to not push and putting off the inevitable. Stop trying to wait for offers or openings and ask her out for a coffee. If she says no then move on. It's POF for christ sake, it literally is called "Plenty of fish" for a reason. Stop being afraid of the answer and ask the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by hartbraker
I'm going to punch you in the face, azn.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikes
ANYWAY.
I suggest if you suck at picking up girls go buy or download the book "The Tao of Badass". Pretty sure one of his main things is to look at a girls lips when she's talking, it makes her think about kissing/making out with you. It's true. I've used this move on a guy, it works for them too.
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Originally Posted by Chelle
Wuf hit the nail on the head. I LOVE taking cherries.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
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All of you guys are waaaaayyyyyyyyyyy over thinking this. First: OP needs to get IRL after he chats a bit. He's only gong to get sexting or cybering in chat rooms.
Contrary to what y'all men are thinking, we want to fuck just as much (maybe more) than you men do.
^^^^Definitely this bold part.Quote:
Originally Posted by jyms
WHY?! WHY WOULD YOU GIVE THIS INFO AWAY?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shotglass
It's hard to be drunk at 8:00am, but I'm doing a pretty damn good job :drunk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chelle
Besides, most guys are already thinking this. They're just too fucking scared to act on it. "omg. She's so out of my league. She'll never even talk to me."
Bullshit, grow some balls and ask....
...Can I marry you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shotglass
By marry you, I mean like, make you my internet girlfriend/wife?
-I- don't even get approached, and I'm not even fucking scary looking. I'm 4 ft 11, tiny, and redhair, went to a metal concert a week or two back, dudes were looking at me like they were gonna' eat me for their last meal, yet no one approached me, and I'm sweet as sugar irl. This is metalheads we're talking about, aren't -they- supposed to have balls?
Ugh.
Sure, wth...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chelle
Besides, Ong and Red are already dreaming about it anyways :D
See, that's my point exactly. Even mst of the bikers that I hang out with act like they're intimidated by my tits. JFC, men, ask already...better yet...do...something, anything...other than stand there witha stupid look on your facesQuote:
-I- don't even get approached, and I'm not even fucking scary looking. I'm 4 ft 11, tiny, and redhair, went to a metal concert a week or two back, dudes were looking at me like they were gonna' eat me for their last meal, yet no one approached me, and I'm sweet as sugar irl. This is metalheads we're talking about, aren't -they- supposed to have balls?
Ugh.
I dream about shotty a ton....mainly to lynch shotty
so many lulz :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooooooo
I think suggesting OP gets involved with lynch fantasy sex on his first time might be a bit too far.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shotglass
dreaming about what? us? :D
swear to god, unless I'm alone with someone, they act like I'm going to like, rip their throat out or some shit, besides my nails and teeth, I'm harmless, so I really don't understand wtf. I've considered going full-out lesbo, but meh, I -really- -really- -really- like men, not boys, men, strong, confident, passionate about life and everything in it men. Not little pussy boys that are unsure of everything they do. One thing that bugs the fuck out of me is someone that has no drive, no will, no passion, no nothing, they're just floating around, waiting for shit to happen. It's like damn dude, take the bull by the fucking horns already. I mean, I know I have nothing going for me at the moment being all bat-shit crazy inside, but once that shit's fixed, it's mother fuckin' game time.
anyway - i'm bored, the old IV site hurts really bad, and I want a fucking shower with some actual shampoo instead of handsoap for shampoo. i can't wait till I get to go home and shower, i miss my body wash and shampoo.
Remember your birthday thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chelle
Also, the bold part is the most important, imo.
fml, just searched for my birthday threads and one i made for spoon popped up in search. sadface.
anyway - shotty, you. me. naked. hospital bed. now.
What happened to him? He don't come round these parts no more.
you promise to tie me up? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Chelle
Maybe hot, evil nurse will walk in and join us.....
IDK. I talk to him as little as possible. He's got his own life, new gf, w/e.
Fuck making connections.
Go to bar, preferably one with a dance floor. AVOID THE FUCKING DANCE FLOOR UNTIL AFTER 1am, VERY IMPORTANT!!!!
Go to the bar, order many many different kinds of beers and shots.
After you are good and fucked up, go to dance floor and look for the whoriest looking whore in the whorebar and just put your P on her A and idk, do something that people call dancing these days.
If after 5 minutes or so of doing this she doesn't ask you to go to her place, move to the next whoriest looking whore in the whorebar and repeat until you go home with some walrus.
[x] virginity lost
that's a man who has standardsQuote:
Originally Posted by dranger7070
Standards?
why don't you hang out in irc and show us pics of your shrekbeasts any more dranger :( MISS YOU.
Because IRC doesn't work on the internet I use for some reason.
SHIT STAIN BALLS!
www.thundercity.net
dranger.
omfg shotty and chelle. Can we get courtie on this too or is this asking too much?
Seriously, some men like the bat shit crazy thing. Don't mean to get internet weird on you, but you have quite a fucking lot going for you.Quote:
I mean, I know I have nothing going for me at the moment being all bat-shit crazy inside,
Who the fuck is intimidated by tits?Quote:
Even mst of the bikers that I hang out with act like they're intimidated by my tits.
courtie is off limits in my book, anyone in a relationship or more, off limits. oh and anyone under 18 or over 35, everyone else is fair game.
Do not want old pussy. Older than 23 is off limits.
No-one's off limits in my mind. Except men.
Obv people in relationships are off limits IRL.
Also, I can extend to past 40 if she's hot enough. Just look at Kylie Minogue. Holy fuck.
You're missing out. Older women are dirtier. Much dirtier.Quote:
Originally Posted by dranger7070
Exaggerating.
we know what we want and we're not afraid to take it :pQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
...I'm 25, know what I want, and take it. Am not old. FOREVER YOUNG IMO.
I'm still in my 20's, even though I was born in '79.
29...:rolleyes:
One thing I've never understood about women... what's so good about cats? All they do is leech off you, and then when they've been fed they fuck off for an eight hour walk around the neighbourhood, before coming back to where they have milk, food and a warm bed. And if you don't feed them at exactly the same time every day, they piss on your bed.
Cats belong outside. I'd rather have a monkey than a cat.
I fucking love cats.
Also are you implying you wouldn't want a fucking monkey!?
That info was outed in the late '70sQuote:
Originally Posted by Chelle
I'll be right over.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
[11:56am] [d0zer] I lul'dQuote:
Originally Posted by dranger7070
[11:56am] [d0zer] o dat dranger
[11:56am] [d0zer] got it all figured out
[11:56am] [d0zer] truly an inspiration
We all can't have dranger's standards of shrekbeasting and whale harpooning.
And then sometimes you set him up for an alley oop with a few of your hot friends and he misses the dunk.
I want a moneky. Cats are rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiMark
I recon I could find something attractive enough in most women (aged 18-60ish) after a few beers, that if I was single I would fuck them.
how does that age range of 18-60 and attractive work?????????????
I retract my statement about cats being rubbish.
I'll rephrase... cats are rubbish pets.
I like cats, I think they're cool animals and all, it's just that they belong outside, they belong with nature, not in my house.
QUOTE=bikes;2103456]how does that age range of 18-60 and attractive work?????????????[/QUOTE]
I don't find women un-attractive because they're older...
I'd actually find it wierd having sex with say a 18yo. I'm 34...18-21 just look so young to me
Also much better with an older women. Fact.
jesus this thread has reminded me how awesome it is to be 23
To OP: you're at college, it's the easiest time of your life to meet new people. Just ignore your fear and try going up to a woman and striking up a conversation. Don't use any cheesy lines, just smile, say hi, and introduce yourself.
If you're too nervous or shy, then work up to it. Like, if you're walking to class and you see a cute girl walking past you, make eye contact and smile. Get used to making eye contact and smiling, you'll be amazed at the responses -- girls will often come over to start the conversation if you smile at them.
Bottom line -- the only way to get more comfortable talking to girls is to get out there and do it. The more practice you have, the more comfortable you will feel. And the more comfortable you feel, the better things will go. And honestly, it's fun -- focus on the fun of meeting new people and try to ignore whatever fear is holding you back.
I'm 25 and look 17, how does that fair with you WillburForce?
@OP:
yeah that last line was a bit of a misstep, I hate to sound trite but you should really be doing your best to give off a "cocky & funny" kind of attitude, even if you aren't like that naturally. You're awesome, she should consider herself lucky to have a chance to be with you. Never forget that. And act accordingly.
"Just be yourself" might be the worst ever advice given. I know it sounds disingenuous but it's true. You need to be a better version of yourself when dating. That's where confidence comes in. Sure, you probably lack it in this area, but it's good practice in life regardless.
As for when you should touch her etc. I think Jyms' advice was pretty good, when you get to a second date or whatever, probably a drinks date, that's a good time to break the "physical" barrier by touching her at some point. Shoulder is a good choice obv, like when saying something that she finds funny and you lean forward a bit and touch her shoulder. Obv it cannot look awkward, best way to do it is to not think about it, and maintain eye contact when you do.
Re. when you should kiss her, end of second date seems like a natural time but every girl is different. Invite her to your place to watch a movie or something, if she agrees then you're pretty much there. Just get to talking and eventually stroke her hair a little. Obviously the subject matter needs to be a little bit more personal by this point. Anyhow, if she lets you play with her hair a little (maybe make a comment about how it looks very soft or some shit) then you're good to go in for a kiss. That be all.
Get that far and then we can discuss intercourse.
If a man doesn't kiss me during the first date then there won't be a second.
fine by me ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chelle
lol at don't make any physical contact on the first date. Like really lol. You should make as much physical contact as possible without being creepy. She doesn't have the lurgy.
And always kiss on the first date, even if it's just a peck on the cheek, for the love of god! That should be your number one priority on a first date. You hope for some action, but you demand a prelude to it.
If you neither touch or kiss her at any point on the first date you will find yourself in the friend zone about 20 mins in to it and boy have you got your work cut out for you then.
But this is getting a little advance for you. You need to ask her on a date first so I wouldn't worry about this shit too much.
Penny, the lean forward and touch her shoulder bit is hilarious.
How can you spend an hour with a girl and not touch her?
You should kiss her when you first meet, just on the cheek.
You should have your hand on the small of her back as you enter the bar (or cinema door, or coffee shop w/e) which is pretty easy to do, you just get to the door a little before her and usher her though with your hand touching her back. The same should be done standing at the bar ordering your first drink (doesn't work for cinema or coffee I guess).
If you do all of this in the first 5 mins of the date, you know where you stand. If she clearly doesn't seem to like you touching her then you know to drink your drink and gtfo. If she seems comfortable with you touching her, make sure you sit next to her (not opposite, never opposite) and ensure your leg touches hers. Again, if she promptly moves, back off, if she lets it touch, then as long as you don't do anything stupid you're getting at least a kiss good night and a 2nd date.
this is all ez game for rong to say as this is how he looks irl.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mes_McAvoy.jpg
a. I'm not sure I see it
b. I'm not sure that's such a good thing.
c. If a. is true and b. is indeed a good thing, it still doesn't matter, we all typically date girls that are approx similar in attractiveness to ourselves most of the time.
I'm not saying start wandering around like you're Jonny Depp, but surely if you are out with a female friend, you can comfortably touch her, right? Like say link arms if you are walking along, or put your arm around her to pull her in a particular direction in say a busy bar or w/e. Just do these normal things, except when you are on a date, it is gradually building a relationship between the two of you where touching is normal. If she doesn't like to be touched, what the fuck are you doing there?
Coming from a man that looks like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by bikes
http://i.imgur.com/lGkyf.png
PS Op should just listen to (dana)rong. If you can manage to very managable, it'll send an unambiguous message for the rest of the date.
If bikes looked like that I may have touched the small of his back in the bar when we met.
We sext often, I think I know what bikes looks like.
Well making contact with a girl the first time isn't really easy to start off. But as far as not kissing the first time out, I think it's pretty std if it is literally the first time you've met a girl in person. Maybe if you've known a girl a bit IRL and had to work your way into a date with her, then def it's a shame if you don't kiss her the first time out. Not kissing her then is basically like saying you just want to be friends, which is lame. But let's please try and wrap our heads around the blind date scenario, where you've had only limited time to know whether there is a vibe with this girl or not. I'd say you don't go wrong in respecting their personal space until you get some positive signals that it's alright to move in.
I suppose I'm wrong to say that breaking the physical barrier should wait until date two, but trying to get a kiss the first time out can be a little aggressive imo. I agree that giving a peck on the cheek is probably a good and safe way to go, even if it's kinda minimal.
Edit: I should mention that being from Montreal a kiss on the cheek (actually, always both) is pretty std / normal, I mean specifically doing it in such a way that doesn't make it seem like you're greeting your grandma.
I wanna bang Johnny Depp so I can have his child and be set for life.
also - bikes does look like george clooney
You know, now that I think about it, I think it's very context dependent. Are you guys going to try to kiss a girl if your first date is only a coffee date? I think that's probably not likely. But if it's drinks, and it goes well, you're probably an idiot for not kissing here.
Does this seem right?
No!
If you and a girl are meeting for the first time and both know that you are on a date, ie sizing each other up for potential, the very first thing you should do when you meet her is walk straight up to her and kiss her on the cheek as part of your intro, ie "Hi, you must be Julie, mwah"
However if you mean sticking your tongue in there, then yeah, the coffee date isn't really the time or the place. Save that for an evening date. But if date 1 is coffee, date 2 should be an evening date, not another day date. Day dates are for checking that you don't seem like a total wierdo only and she should know that after a few minutes. Hopefully.
Also, if you kissed her on the cheek when you met, you've now set a precedent that should be followed when parting ways as well.
Y'all are handsome, but... it ain't got nothing on me.
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Yeah, you're not trying to pass a milestone, just breaking through a not-really-there barrier.Quote:
Originally Posted by rong
First thing to ask her when you meet up...
"You on the pill or do I need some rubber?"
You'll know where you stand prety quickly.
ps don't ask her that.
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This is me as a human, after I signed my voice over to Ursela
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This is me in my mermaid form.
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Look at this bitch, she don't even care.
But yeah, that's me, all me, I like being a mermaid better cause then I don't attract bears and sharks.
If a guy's so insecure (read that as such a pussy) that he asks me out for a "coffee date" instead of a real date then he's NEVER getting out of the friend zone.
coffee date is a ruse to get into your pants quicker.
shoulda transformed into her imo
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TCek3i3-Ja...eyWilliams.jpg
I feel like your opinion is biased. What's wrong with a coffee date as a first date? It's a simple date where you plant feelers to make sure she's not batshit crazy (most of you are) and she gets to see we aren't some creeper (most of us are).
Seems like a fairly standard date and an easy fall back.
My opinion may be biased but I would be more interested in a man who asks me to go bowling today, not that I would, than one who asks me to go for coffee. At least the bowler is showing some originality.
quickest way to go home alone and be relegated to instant voicemailQuote:
Originally Posted by bikes
Yeah maybe I will come and stalk you after all.
Yeah fuck coffee for a first date. Try a poker game, or paintball maybe. Skydiving. Anything but coffee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shotglass
Know what I like doin' on the first date?
Boat ride with a Prince, while the sea-animals sing a love song, and I try to get the Prince to kiss me.
Went on a paintball first date once...awesome...dated him for 4 months or so.
A while back a guy who I met on a blind date asked me while we were eating for a second date to go skydiving the next day. Less than 5 minutes after I met him I had decided not to see him again but when he asked me to jump out of a plane I changed my mind. We didn't go skydiving but we did have 5 or 6 dates.
The only thing that gets blown on a coffee date is the guy's chances.
Yeah I did paintball as a second date. That's the ex I'm still "freinds" with. And I would so jump out of a plane as a first date. Way to make it memorable.
I'd sooner just go to my local for a pint than go for a coffee.
The reality is that people like what they like. If a girl asks me out to bowling, I'm probably going to say no to that and anything else she has to offer (because bowling is dumb), but if she asks me for coffee, I'm okay with it because coffee and talking is cool. It's not that my view on this is right and yours wrong, it's simply about tastes. A lot of people love concerts and clubs, I hate concerts and clubs. I love lounging around and shooting the shit, a lot of people don't like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shotglass
All these rules are kinda meh. Just act with confidence and style and get in there. That's all any man needs to know about what to do regarding short term relationships
/thread
Coffee dates are the norm in the online dating world nowadays. You've never met, you only see pics and hear there own description of themselves. A coffee date is kind of like reading the label before eating the food, you want to see what they are trying to sneak by you. Then you go on a date.
yeah, wtf ong. Coffee dates are lolstandard.
I'm with wuf on this one. I whore around a bit, but I REALLY have to be in the mood to go to the "club" (not really a club around here, bikes knows what I'm talking about) and I feel really out of place at a concert. But sitting around bullshitting is like, one of my favorite past times.
Cause I'm always either working, at school or just out with friends :p I don't really like being bored at home, I'd much rather be with someone or just doing something lol
Oh man I read that really wrong. I thought it said I'd much rather be with someone or just doing someone lol. I really hope you're not that kind of girl anyways. What are you studying?
___
So I took pennywize's and she hasn't responded. Did I really fuck this up? It's been a while since I sent it. She probably thinks I'm a fucking pervert now. Holy shit, why did I say that? I screwed this up so bad. What the fuck am I going to do?
I am toootally not taking the rap for this! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by hartbraker
live and learn, if she comes back don't make the same mistake again. If she does, keep it going. But don't message her till she gets back to you imo.
Also agree with everyone saying that as far as internet first dates go, coffee is incredibly standard and yes it's a screen to get the crazies out of the way.
Shotglass I agree if a guy you knew personally asked you out for coffee then you're in your rights to friendzone the fuck out of him, but not all girls would feel that way. But if you had only spoken with him on the internet a little, then, meh, coffee has to be considered fine.
Agree with danarong, go for a peck on the cheek after meeting her. And yes setting a precedent for physical contact is good.
By the way if you had realized that that is not what she said in the first place hwy did you go ahead and write that's what you thought you read lol? She's opened up a bunch of conversational avenues there, weird that you would pick the 'oh hey I misinterpreted what you said as you being promiscuous' route.Quote:
Originally Posted by hartbraker
triple post, one last nugget of wisdom: when online dating, it's really always best to keep conversations going with multiple people at once, that way you don't get bummed if one or two of them don't pan out.
It's a bit of a numbers game, my friend I was talkin about earlier met a girl who seemed uber normal till on the third date he went to her house and found it was a fucking disaster (she's a certified hoarder). All the more reason to keep plugging away at new prospects.
Penney, nobody in the world, neither you or I, are able to be anybody but ourselves. If you find one day that you have something in you that you didn't know about befor, it doesn't mean you're not yourself all the sudden.Quote:
yeah that last line was a bit of a misstep, I hate to sound trite but you should really be doing your best to give off a "cocky & funny" kind of attitude, even if you aren't like that naturally. You're awesome, she should consider herself lucky to have a chance to be with you. Never forget that. And act accordingly.
"Just be yourself" might be the worst ever advice given. I know it sounds disingenuous but it's true. You need to be a better version of yourself when dating. That's where confidence comes in. Sure, you probably lack it in this area, but it's good practice in life regardless.
lol at peck on cheek. do people seriously do that?
if you dont know what you're doing, let her instigate contact. women love instigating contact.
men who do anything other than letting her do all the work are doing it wrong. if she wants you to touch her, she will make you know by touching you a lot; if she wants you to kiss her, you will know. women are the real choosers, all men have to do is act cool then act on the information she gives and her behavior
True story:
I've only been to Starbucks once, and I had no idea what to do, so the guy ordered for me, and it was amazing.
I think it was the frappichino mocha thingy with like whip cream on top. Noms.
Different strokes for different folks, imo.
Also - if you want her to kiss you, or move into kiss you, or want to kiss you, look at her lips, then back to her eyes, then back to her lips. It will make her think about making out w/ you, at least that's some shit I heard.
I agree, of course. I just meant specifically that you should downplay your known faults. Say you have a tendency to talk about yourself and ignore things about others in conversation. This is something to avoid, obviously. Or what if you lack a social filter and sometimes make crude comments accidentally. Again, another thing not to do on a first date. I really didn't mean it to come off any different than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by eugmac
Confidence is important too, ldo, but much easier said than done, speaking from experience
I dunno man, some women prefer you make contact first, especially if they're a little squeamish, and that is not an insignificant portion of the dating pool. I also like women who initiate, I've always been attracted to women who knew what they wanted and acted accordingly, but there are definitely some very desirable women out there who you have to make the move on first.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
also yes the cheek kissing thing happens a lot but I'm from Quebec so wtf.
Hm. I'm with Penney though here, that's a shit answer. If anybody ever implies "I'm so bored, I'd rather be with a man right now.", don't ever answer "I'm hope you're not THAT kind of a girl. *Rollseyes*."Quote:
Originally Posted by hartbraker
Instead flirt back, be suggestive without being explicit - don't all the sudden answer with "your place or mine?" but just idk, tease her back. OK?
Ya, things about physical boundaries, what a peck on the cheek means, what a peck on the mouth means... it really depends on what area you're from and what girls are used to. I heard about a story about US soldiers meeting British girls and because both sides were used to different "conventions" the US soldiers left with the impression that British girls are super easy to get into bed with, and the British girls thought the US soldiers were SO forward and eager to get them into bed.