Screwing people who love you over can have that effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
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Screwing people who love you over can have that effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Hard as it is to question the "Trump is Superman" theory based on what the doctor employed by the navy says, but I'd be curious to know just how much of that medical report is fake news.
Like, he's just 1 pound under obese. Hmm, how convenient.
Everything else is working great even though he never exercises and eats fast food. His blood pressure is like that of an 18 year old.
30/30 on the cognitive test even though he routinely goes off on rambling nonsense monologues.
The guy is a massively accomplished physician and served Presidents of both parties. How come this doctor's report wasn't impugned as fake news when he evaluated Obama, who famously smokes like a chimney?Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
It blows my mind that you and MMM like to impugn my intelligence while simultaneously being so patently fraudulent. Aren't you disgusted with yourself??
I see simple statistical principles elude you. Can you explain why you think a result of 1 pound under obese should have a frequency of 0?Quote:
Like, he's just 1 pound under obese. Hmm, how convenient.
You should get a role as "the catty girl" in a Jenny Craig commercial. "I can't believe she eats that and is still a size 6!! WAAAHHH!"Quote:
Everything else is working great even though he never exercises and eats fast food.
Jealous much?
I rarely exercise, eat like garbage, chug soda regularly, and my blood pressure, as of last wednesday, is 115/80Quote:
His blood pressure is like that of an 18 year old.
Called it! I can definitely be quoted as saying that even if Trump took the test and passed, it wouldn't silence those critical of his mental faculties. So predictably stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Not even going to engage you banana, sorry.
Good. Your position is indefensible anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
No, the signal-to-noise ratio of intelligent discourse to idiocy and/or abuse is simply too low to make reading your posts worthwhile.
Whoa whoa whoa....what happened to...Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Look man, if you're going to be embarassed when your'e called out for posting illogical, indefensible, hopelessly retarded stuff....THEN STOP POSTING ILLOGICAL, INDEFENSIBLE, HOPELESSLY RETARDED STUFF.Quote:
Not even going to engage you banana, sorry.
If you have a LEGITIMATE reason to doubt the doctor's report.....give it. Otherwise, just know that you're a partisan whine-bag who has demonstrated a continued aversion to any fact that doesn't fit his "trump is retarded" narrative.
lol wat a moron. Tell him you're not even reading what he says and he just says more.
FixedQuote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Russia rigged the physical.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
So you believe everything the gov't doctor tells you right?Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
YES! Doesn't his position, accomplishments, and tenure say anything about his ethical integrity???Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Do you have ANY reason to doubt this man other than the fact he didn't say the things you wished he would have??
Wuf, I guess this makes you an outlier.
http://www.panderingpoliticians.com/...ientation.html
QQQQQQQQQQ WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
Funny enough, that was published back when the zeitgeist was all about how the right-wing is stupid. What I've seen since is the opposite claims, that conservatives are smarter. Given the author's explanation for why conservatives are dumber (simple explanations), it makes sense that the opposite could be true now (racist! sexist! bigot! blumpf!).Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
One way they can both be true is that smart people may identify along with the zeitgeist more than dumb people. I mean, that would be the smart thing to do probably.
Anyways, I tend to take these sorts of things with a grain of salt. From my own study I have found that I think most research outside of the hard sciences are wrought with bias and find unreproducible results.
It’s easy to reproduce the result that socialism is stupid as fuck. They do it every time they try it.
Based on an admittedly small sample, I've found that roughly 1/3 conservatives is a decent, intelligent person and 2/3 are toxic morons.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
How is that only the conservatives are toxic. yet your passive aggressive BS in this post, coupled with your insane nonsense over the past week about Trump being stupid, and a highly decorated military officer being a total liar is not toxic??Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
typical.....you just march in circles inside your own echo chamber and expect that EVERYONE has to hate trump, think cops are racist, think women are oppressed, think rich people are evil, and think gays are unassailable.
you can't process the notion that there might be a link between intelligence and success, or that the guy with the ability to stick needles in the president might have been vetted like fucking crazy to make sure his character is far above reproach. Or that maybe not everyone who doesn't think like you is a racist, xenophobic, white supremacist, homophobic, greedy, hateful, evil, villain threatening peace.
Sorry my screen went blank when I went to read your post. Seems I forgot to switch the toxic moron filter to 'allowed'. Can you please post it all again? I'm sure it was fascinating.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Keep proving me right buddyQuote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Sorry, filter's still broke. I guess you'll either have to start presenting some cogent arguments without being obnoxious about it or I'll just not be able to discuss anything with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
You first. What's your cogent argument for doubting the doctor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Bernie is getting no-fucking-where for 2020. Him and Elizabeth Warren are going to have a boring as fuck election, and Warren wins the primary. Trump absolutely fucking destroys her, and we go on to another four years of Making America Great Again and again and again and again.
roflolQuote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Way ahead of the national average. We win at everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
First, we can start with the fact that he works for Trump and so has a vested career interest in saying things that put him in the best possible light. Right from that, we can assume anything he says is best taken with a huge grain of salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Second, he calls a man who eats fast food, doesn't exercise, has high cholesterol and is one pound short of obese "in excellent health."
Third, he claims that had Trump eaten properly and exercised he could have lived to 200 years. When you say something this absurd you raise doubts about your credibility as a serious doctor.
Fourth, he claims to know that Trump is not only fit to be president, but will remain so for 'years to come'. So, apparently he got his degree from Nostradamus U.
Fifth, he claims on the basis of a single two-minute cognitive test that Trump did 'exceedingly well' in that category.
Sixth, he basically brushed off all questions about Trump's mental problems, rambling nonsense interviews and other clear mental fails (such as losing his way to the limo parked right in front of him or wandering off at meetings) with some anecdotes about how sharp Trump appears to him. So his so-called "professional" opinion based on one short test and his own eyes is that Trump is sharp as a tack.
Wasn't he hired by Obama?
That's not really relevant unless you assume Obama is still signing his paychecks.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
He got hired by 'the government' to be an official propoganda tool for whoever is president. He's not going to look at a test and go 'holy fuck this guy is [insert medical problem here].
None of JFK's 'doctors' ever felt it necessary to mention his Addison's disease, even though it was clearly apparent to all of them. None of Reagan's doctors ever felt his clear signs of mental decline were worthy of acknowledgement.
Taking an 'official' doctor at his word suggests a naivete that I can only assume one would either just pretend to hold for the sake of trolling, or because they aren't very savvy about the world and its workings.
Regardless of who the president is, it's pretty obvious it's in the best interests of both him and probably the nation as a whole that he be reported to be in good health. Can you imagine a president's doctor coming out and saying 'hey, this guy's body is a wreck'. Just think about what would happen if he did say that.
It's like Hillary's doctor after she collapsed during the campaign ' oh yeah she's fit as a fiddle, just a little flu or whatever blah blah blah'.
Or when Reagan got shot and almost died, and the official story in the hours afterwards was 'he's doing fine, nothing to worry about folks.'
When you're a very stable genius, you do apparently spend two minutes for a 30-point cognitive assessment, score a perfect 30/30 taking an average of four seconds per point and are still said to have mental issues by bozos on the Internet who aren't qualified to even take a dump in the same building as the man.
It's not an intelligence test. It's a cognitive assessment. It checks to see if you have dementia and shit.
This is just wrong. He works for the US government. He's been the whitehouse doctor for 12 years. He's exceeding qualified. I'll let you go look up his credentials. I'm not going to dignify your idiocy by giving you facts that you'll likely ignore anyway. Just know that this very first statement you're making is categorically false, and shamefully uninformed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
False again. He is a medical professional bound by ethical standards and oaths. he has a vested career interest in being honest and truthful. the guy has been WH doctor for three different presidents from two different parties. There's no reason to think he won't be the Dr for the next president, who may or may not align with Trump. If the next POTUS doesn't align with Trump, what happens to the Dr's career if there is any suspicion that the Dr is partisan??Quote:
and so has a vested career interest in saying things that put him in the best possible light.
This cynicism can't be real. You absolutely must be trolling.Quote:
Right from that, we can assume anything he says is best taken with a huge grain of salt.
Yup. Do you know alot of 71 year olds in better health than Trump? He's clearly in a high percentile.Quote:
Second, he calls a man who eats fast food, doesn't exercise, has high cholesterol and is one pound short of obese "in excellent health."
He said "might have", and was clearly speaking hyperbolicly as a means to emphasize his findings of "overall excellent health". That's what hyperbole is. It's an exaggerated statement used to make a point. It's a perfectly valid literary device, which I'm sure is lost on a math nerd like yourself. If you're taking "200 years" literally, and using it to impugn the doctor's integrity, you're just being childish.Quote:
Third, he claims that had Trump eaten properly and exercised he could have lived to 200 years. When you say something this absurd you raise doubts about your credibility as a serious doctor.
Physicians screen for signs of oncoming disease. In the absence of those signs, it's reasonable to assume that no disease is oncoming.Quote:
Fourth, he claims to know that Trump is not only fit to be president, but will remain so for 'years to come'. So, apparently he got his degree from Nostradamus U.
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Fifth, he claims on the basis of a single two-minute cognitive test that Trump did 'exceedingly well' in that category
yet another factual inaccuracy used to color an opinion you prefer to hold. The test takes a full ten minutes. I'll let you go back and look up the details to correct the record here. It's called the Montreal Cognitive Test
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018...test-would-do/
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The cognitive test on which Donald Trump received a perfect score is considered a good screening tool for mental decline in an otherwise healthy person, medical experts said.
He talked for an hour and answered every single question.Quote:
Sixth, he basically brushed off all questions about Trump's mental problems
you've never forgotten where you parked? you've never brain-farted and done something uncharacteristically dumb?? I'll bet if you spent your entire life in the public eye, I could string together a pretty good highlight reel of your mental fails that makes you look like a fucking retard. But if I did that while simultaneously ignoring a lifetime of work that reflects an incredible acumen....I'd be a fucking retard.Quote:
rambling nonsense interviews and other clear mental fails (such as losing his way to the limo parked right in front of him or wandering off at meetings) with some anecdotes about how sharp Trump appears to him.
The entire medical community agrees that the test is sound. What qualifies you to challenge its findings?Quote:
So his so-called "professional" opinion based on one short test and his own eyes is that Trump is sharp as a tack.
Pfft.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
For all we know, he ordered the doctor to do the test for him. Then added a couple of points to the score.
Oh okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
This is why it's impossible to have intellectual discourse with you. As long as you're saying this shit, you're gonna get called out for being a retard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
you still haven't given a single reason why you believe this, other than you really really really want it to be true. You're like a child screaming "i want ice cream for dinner" and just won't take no for an answer. The only way to deal with you is to let you tire yourself out and fall asleep.
There's no way in hell a president is getting a bad grade on a physical. It doesn't matter how many degrees his doctor has or how good his CV is. When a doctor signs on for that job, he's doing it with the understanding that he's going to be an official gov't shill, no more or no less.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
You can argue all you want about how 'good' his results are. It doesn't matter since if they weren't good they'd be altered to look good, and so there's no reason to take the report seriously at all.
Well I'm half-joking but really I wouldn't put it past the guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
False. Even Trump's report contained many areas of concern and recommendations for improvement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Bill Clinton's health was an ongoing concern throughout his presidency.
Reagan was diagnosed with a cancerous polyp while in office.
In terms of "overall health", I just don't see any way that a person who is not in "overall excellent health" could even become President in the first place.
They have to make it sound plausible. They can't just say 'everyting's perfect' because only the stupidest person would believe that when a 71 year old guy is borderline obese, eats fast food and never exercises.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
I'm sure it was on Fox News. The only thing I remember hearing is that his cholesterol was high. Could be wrong though. Maybe you can find the medical reports that show this ongoing concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
That was removed and so no threat. I mean if the guy has to have surgery it's kinda hard to hide that. What are they going to say, he's having his tonsils out?Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Also, wasn't Reagan declared mentally fit in the exam during his 2nd term? The guy wasn't mentally fit, he needed cue cards to talk to people on the phone.
Really.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
FDR.
JFK.
Reagan term 2.
Oh, and don't forget Harrison who died a month after taking office.
Anyways the question isn't really about the fact that Trump's got bad lifestyle habits and is overweight - that much is well known.
The question is whether he's got all his faculties. And a single test is not going to tell you that, assuming it would even be reported honestly if the results were indicative of cognitive decline.
Don't forget what prompted Trump to set up this medical in the first place. He wanted to prove he was mentally fit. Now, on the basis of one test that may or may not have been reported honestly, we're meant to believe that he is, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Lol, just heard that Trump used to be 6'2" but in this medical is 6'3". Guess that explains how he kept from being diagnosed as obese.
Someone go through the old posts to see what poop was saying when I was pointing out how unfit for office HRC was during the campaign. I wanna know if he's a libtard hypocrite.
You do realise he's in better shape physically and mentally than most 71 y/o's who by now have retired?Quote:
despite all the evidence to the contrary
This really is desperation.
It sounds plausible....because it is plausible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Fox News wasn't a thing back then. You don't remember his morning jogs being televised? You don't remember all the SNL skits where Phil Hartman (playing Clinton) jogged to a fast food restaurant and then commented on world affairs with a mouth full of burgers and fries?Quote:
I'm sure it was on Fox News. The only thing I remember hearing is that his cholesterol was high. Could be wrong though. Maybe you can find the medical reports that show this ongoing concern.
If it's so easy to get doctors to lie, for no other reason than to fool the press, then why not say he's getting his tonsils out??Quote:
That was removed and so no threat. I mean if the guy has to have surgery it's kinda hard to hide that. What are they going to say, he's having his tonsils out?
Source?Quote:
Also, wasn't Reagan declared mentally fit in the exam during his 2nd term?
Died fucking his side-piece. Obviously he was spry right up until the end.Quote:
FDR.
Had a different side-piece every day. Obviously he was spry right up until the end.Quote:
JFK.
Still waiting on a source on this. But considering how well term 1 went, he couldn't have been degrading too fast.Quote:
Reagan term 2.
That was 100 years ago.Quote:
Oh, and don't forget Harrison who died a month after taking office.
Doesn't really stop you from shitting all over him for it.Quote:
Anyways the question isn't really about the fact that Trump's got bad lifestyle habits and is overweight - that much is well known.
It's hard to give that question any credibility when it's ONLY being asked by his political enemies.Quote:
The question is whether he's got all his faculties
Actually yes it is. That's what the test is for. That's why they made the test.Quote:
And a single test is not going to tell you that
Ass hole.Quote:
assuming it would even be reported honestly if the results were indicative of cognitive decline.
Ass holes like you.Quote:
Don't forget what prompted Trump to set up this medical in the first place
And he did.Quote:
He wanted to prove he was mentally fit.
One test that every medical professional who's commented on this, agrees is sound and valid.Quote:
Now, on the basis of one test
So you wanted the test. He took the test. He passed the test. So now the test must be a lie????Quote:
that may or may not have been reported honestly
We're meant to believe the truth.Quote:
, we're meant to believe that he is,
What evidence is that?? It seems that you're watching Trump blooper reels and saying "INSANE". Meanwhile a highly decorated, enormously credentialed, thoroughly vetted, experienced, medical professional and war veteran used sound scientific testing that is universally accepted among the medical community as reliable and valid.Quote:
despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Why is your evidence so much better than his?
You're a stats guy right? Why don't you go and check out the t, p, z, mean, standard deviation or whatever between the actual height of NY's citizens and what's reported on their driver's licenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
It's also a well documented medical phenomenon that your height can change through spine compression even within a single day.
+/- 1 inch isn't blowing anybody's hair back.
Also....let's say he was 6'2" and was technically a hair over the 'obese' line. How does that change a damn fucking thing?
You mean delusionQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Spoon really is a fucking fantastic troll. He never breaks character.Quote:
Originally Posted by banana
Some of my first posts on here were about how Hillary likely had neurological problems. Should be pretty easy to find. After that you can apologize.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Based on what the gov't doctors tell you? Since when are you so trusting of authority?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
And yea, my grandpa was in good mental shape for a 92 year old. Doesn't mean I'd have trusted him to make important decisions based on whatever information he could manage to take in.
I mean, whatever. You guys obviously prefer to believe what you want to believe and now you have 'medical' evidence that says Trump is mentally competent. Ok then whatever.
what would it take to convince you? Explain what evidence could be presented that would finally get you to admit that the guy is healthy, sane, and intelligent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
If your grandpa spent a year and a half running a successful presidential campaign, complete with speeches, debates, and constant media scrutiny, and then spent the following year fulfilling campaign promises, managing legislative successes, and presiding over a massive economic boom.....you still wouldn't trust him? Just cause he's old?Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Ageism is a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
No, based on the fact he hasn't had a nervous breakdown despite taking on what already is the most stressful job in the world for most people, but for him is infinitely more stressful due to the fact he has the entire drooling left shrieking like banshees every time he tweets or goes on tv.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
I'm in no position to tell you if his liver is in good shape, but he seems mentally stronger than, well, a precise 100% of the people who are still in meltdown because he got the job.
So, no good reason to believe it then.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
What reason do I have not to? I mean we could play this game all fucking day. How can you be sure Abe Lincoln was fit for office? Because his doctor said so? Well that's great, clearly he was insane.
Fuck's sake.
But that's precisely the argument that's being touted here by the T.I.'s. The doctor says Trump is in great shape, and anyone who questions that based on their own eyes and ears isn't an independent thinker but instead is a libtard grasping at straws because we should believe what his doctor says.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I mean I don't have enough data to pass judgment about his physical health other than that he's fat, eats garbage and doesn't exercise. And from that, I find it unlikely he's the prime specimen they're making him out to be. Is that such a strange suspicion to have?
That isn't the chain of logic here and you know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I don't have a battery of neurological tests to tell me if Trump can remember what happened 10 minutes ago, or understands right from wrong. But on the basis of one very simple cognitive test, we're supposed to believe he's perfectly fine, while ignoring a lot of his questionable behavior. Have you seen that test? You get 6 points just for knowing the date and where you are ffs. Another question asks you to identify three line drawings of a camel, lion, and rhinoceros. Another one asks you to draw a clock with the hands pointing to 11.10.
http://dementia.ie/images/uploads/si...nglish_7_1.pdf
Next they'll be saying we should believe what they tell us about 9/11 or JFK because it's the government and they never lie, and they did one test that shows something definitely hit the wtc. I mean some of those people who were on the 9/11 commission had degrees from good universities, come on how can you question them?
No. I couldn't give a fuck what his doctor say to be honest. I'm assuming he's perfectly fine because the only evidence to suggest otherwise is [banshee shrieks].Quote:
But on the basis of one very simple cognitive test, we're supposed to believe he's perfectly fine, while ignoring a lot of his questionable behavior.
He's fat? So is most of America. He eats garbage? Yeah welcome to America. Doesn't exercise? That's interesting, considering he also plays too much golf.
Banshees, the fucking lot of you.
I can guess the "T", but what does the "I" stand for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
If you're actually a doctor, with training, experience, and a medical degree, and you diagnose Trump without examining him, you are guilty of a significant ethical violation.Quote:
The doctor says Trump is in great shape, and anyone who questions that based on their own eyes and ears isn't an independent thinker but instead is a libtard grasping at straws because we should believe what his doctor says.
If you're NOT actually a doctor, an don't have training, or experience, or a medical degree, and you diagnose Trump, without examining him, you are guilty of shameful, hopeless, partisan idiocy!
No on disagrees with this, not even the doctor. It was in the report, it was said in the press conference. Trump needs to lose some lbs, improve his diet, and exercise more. Happy now??Quote:
I mean I don't have enough data to pass judgment about his physical health other than that he's fat, eats garbage and doesn't exercise.
Who used the term "prime specimen"? You seem to be grading Trump's fitness on some kind of universal scale. At the top of your scale are people like Floyd Mayweather, Michael Phelps, or Deion Sanders in his prime. Ok...so Trump probably isn't at the top of that scale, and no one ever claimed he was. For a 71 year old man, he is in an extremely high percentile of fitness. Why are you suspicious of that?Quote:
And from that, I find it unlikely he's the prime specimen they're making him out to be. Is that such a strange suspicion to have?
Yet you have no problem drawing conclusions. Again, it saddens me that you're an educator.Quote:
I don't have a battery of neurological tests to tell me if Trump can remember what happened 10 minutes ago, or understands right from wrong.
Simplicity does not negate validity, reliability, or accuracy.Quote:
But on the basis of one very simple cognitive test
For the 1000th time....a Trump blooper reel is NOT a diagnostic tool.Quote:
we're supposed to believe he's perfectly fine, while ignoring a lot of his questionable behavior.
Have you seen what virtually every medical expert on the subject says about the test?Quote:
Have you seen that test?
If you want to say that there is information missing that the government redacted on some 'national security' grounds that may or may not be exaggerated....then ok. You're probably right. If you're telling me that terrorists didn't hijack planes and crash them into buildings, then you should wear less tinfoil.Quote:
Next they'll be saying we should believe what they tell us about 9/11
Same as above. Besides, even with the 'official' government story, there still enough FACTS (not speculation....FACTS) for people to draw the reasonable conclusion that the secret service killed JFK, albeit on accident.Quote:
or JFK
Getting in and out of the golf cart is not 'exercise'. Fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Next you'll say walking from the fridge to the shitter is exercise.
400+ calories burned per round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Some people just have good genes.
Better stop using numbers before he comes back with a pie chart or some shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Going to the fridge is exercise if you do it 80-odd times over the course of a few hours, while hitting a lemon with a stick every time.
Yup, not an idiot at all.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b0dc592a095932
"Who wants to tell him?" lolz.
First, Trump trolling the Women's March was hilarious.
Second, the Women's March is a fucking joke ran by clowns. But hey, at least they didn't invite any speakers who were convicted terrorist murderers or convicted rape-torturer murders this year. That's progress.
https://i.imgur.com/XQ93MnB.jpg
Of course it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Yeah, but I think women are allowed to vote now. A zillion of them marching in the streets saying they hate you probably isn't a good thing for a politician.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
#MAGA
Women's general agreeable nature is working against them these days.
The funny thing is that we can expect that to change very quickly and unexpectedly. It's like how in just the span of a couple years the womens movement went from fighting against oppression to fighting for those exact oppressors. The cause is probably the agreeable nature of the fairer sex. So, one day we'll wake up and the trend will move in a different direction, and so will the womens movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
They haven't made a fucking dent in a single thing except trashing everywhere they go and making themselves look like idiots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Example of how High Energy memeing is serious business.
https://i.redd.it/xtkdqsngbgb01.jpg
The Identity Politics Democrats don't know what is hitting them. A mere peep outside the bubble can be enough.
Thing I'm not excited about wrt that is that Trump is always the bad guy. Look at all the Trump memeing, he's always the bad guy. He's Scarface or Don Corleone. It's a little Freudian but not in a bad way. We need a bad guy right now since all the good guys are cucks. But I'm not the world's biggest fan of any semblance of Democrats being the bad guys. No, they're the good guys. The two-faced good guys that you love at first but get their comeuppance in the end because they snuck around and now their jig is up. Though this particular rendition probably fits since Dr. Evil and co. aren't truly bad. They're clowny and incompetent. Not sure if that fits though. Clowny and incompetent is different than underhanded and two-faced.
Campaigning on the idea that obamacare is not a tax, and then getting it through the supreme court on the grounds that congress has the right to levy taxes.......Quote:
I'm not the world's biggest fan of any semblance of Democrats being the bad guys. No, they're the good guys
Initiating surveillance on a presidential candidate and political enemy, during a campaign, based on a paid-for dossier full of salacious garbage...
The IRS scandal.....
The FBI going easy on Hillary....
The 'pay for play' scandals surrounding Hillary's time as secretary of state....
AG whatzherface meeting with Bill Clinton on a plane....
Speaking of Bill Clinton....purjury
The DNC boxed out Bernie....
I mean, how corrupt does a party have to be before we start calling them bad guys?
Eh I'm making a sort of literary metaphor and stuff.
The Democrats are bad news according to reality.
I always find it interesting how Trump is the bad guy in memes. I also find it interesting how most things that are good for you feel bad. Are they related? Probs malobs.
I think it's fine. The Dems have made a career of identity politics and villainizing the competition. Inside their own echo chamber, they were cheered. When Obama was president, they were emboldened. But what they didn't realize was that they were creating a "silent majority".Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
The crazies on the left are gonna keep meme-ing Trump in all kinds of derogatory ways. The crazies on the right are gonna keep meme-ing the Dems in all kinds of derogatory ways. However, in the middle, are a hell of a lot of people who say "Just cause I'm white, doesn't mean I'm privileged" and "Just cause I want immigrants to come in legally, doesn't mean I'm racist" and "Just because I believe in meritocracy, doesn't mean I hate the poor" etc etc etc etc.
These people can't speak up. They can't present their side, no matter how many facts back it up. Their debate opponents don't want to debate. They won't accept reason. They only know how to cry "unfair", flex a sense of entitlement, and talk about how fucking great it is in Denmark even though 99% of them have never even been there.
So keep it up Dems. Keep feeding the crazies on your side while simultaneously alienating more and more independent thinkers. The silent majority grows, and when the voting booths open again, you will hear our voice.
It's a keen observation.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Who's the coolest literary figure in the last ten years? Walter White, that's who.
Could be that what they said was always true, that politics is downwind from culture.
Man I love that as an partial explanation for and about Trump (and the audience that points the finger). It's not a full explanation, as there are some very important differences. But I think there really is something to the Bad Guy/Scarface/Trump dynamic.
"Good? You're not good. Me? I always tell the truth. Even when I lie."
Picture, fucking, perfect.
"Last time you're gonna see a bad guy like this again."
That's right. It's the last time we're gonna see somebody do "everything wrong" while getting it right, while disrupting the corruption of the "good guys" that have been doing bad for so long.
"What a bunch of fucking assholes."
I couldn't say it better myself. Holier-than-thou assholes. Blowhards became that the moment they decided that Trump is their enemy.
Yeah plus they lost.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/21/opinio...art/index.html
Even CNN is saying the Democrats are nuts.
Irrational behavior does not respond to reason. It responds to aggression.
Vote republican in 2018.
So, the Democrats folded and the shutdown is over less than halfway through it's first business day. #winning #MAGA.
Now, I really want to know, from anyone on the left.....What was this for?? What was the point?
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Originally Posted by BananaStand
#winning #maga
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...ce-abuses.html
I can't wait to read this thing
It's a pipe dream, but I'd like to see Obama locked the fuck up over some of this shit.
I'm not so sure it's a pipe dream anymore.
If Trump gets re-elected, and controls at least one house of congress at the time, then some high ranking Dems should think seriously about fleeing to Costa Rica.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Politicians expressing shocked outrage over hidden information is not indicative of anything at all.
Well, with the un-hidden information, it's pretty easy to infer what the memo is likely to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
And it's only hidden for the moment. For what I gather the committees and hearings and such that it takes to release the memo takes 19 congressional business days. Which puts the release in mid-March.
EDIT: TIL that there is such a thing as "congressional business days" that is different from regular "business days". Work harder congress.
I tend to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
IMO any bombshell will be unexpected. Though there may also be a drip, drip, drip of related subject material leading up to that to properly massage public opinion for what's to come. But yeah, the more you hear about something like this before it happens, the less likely it is to be juicy.
Kim Dotcom, Hannity, others, they have teased major bombshells a bunch in the past. A big fat zero percent of them have been anything other old lady queef.
What about the time Rachel Maddow had Trump's tax return.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Bomb dropped.
IIRC that was teased in promos during the day for the primetime viewing. That's a different animal. Though that doesn't mean that's not how it would be done with somebody like Hannity, but that nigga cried wolf way too many times by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
I was being sarcastic about the Maddow thing. If you remember, she had a big fat nothingburger to present on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I'm with you on Hannity. How that guy gets fired up night after night can't be real. So you can divide everything he says by 3, and that's about all it's worth.
My inference here is that the memo is going to detail some wildly indefensible justification for the surveillance put on Trump during the campaign and during the transition. My bold prediction here is that it shows unlawful collusion between the Obama administration and the Hillary campaign.
After I posted that, it actually sunk in.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Damn, that would be really really fucking bad.
We already know it happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
And Trump knows it happened too.
The question is if justice will also happen.
I'll add that it's not surprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
When the answer to every injustice is more government power, a person with power in government tends to believe he is justice.
no, the question is WHY it happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
It's one thing if Obama was just being a good Democrat and trying to find dirt on Trump so he could take him down. I mean, that's corrupt and wrong, and all that but....
I think it would be a metric-shit-ton worse if we found out that Hillary was in actual kahootz with Obama who was using the power of the presidency to influence the outcome of an election.
One is a power-overreach driven by petty partisanship.
The other is a tyrannical conspiracy.