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I was talking about this game and this fake claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
Here it is - I describe the role in post 1003 and it took through post 1217 to lynch me. Good times, good times.
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Yeah, my link was to the game where it got down to me, rilla and wuf.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
I don't know what wifom is either. Why u quoted my post to say that, I don't knowQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Wuf isn't claiming poisoner so I bet he is the last wolf.
double check my math. blue is cv, red is wolf, purple is poisoner, green is poisoned target.
SCENARIO 1
assuming nom in dark and hits poisoner. assuming mmm is poisoner
d4 players
Beck Novo
Hifi
SuperMonkeyFace
lilrascal
Luco
MadMojoMonkey
OngBonga
Wufwugy
GatorJH
d4n4 actions
lynch wuf
poison luco
peek rascal
nom mmm
d5 players
Beck Novo
Hifi
SuperMonkeyFace
lilrascal
Luco poisoned
OngBonga
GatorJH
d5n5 actions
lynch ong
luco succumbed
nom beck
d6 players
Hifi
SuperMonkeyFace
lilrascal
GatorJH
lynch gator ftwwwwwww!
**** SCENARIO 1 PART 2: assume beck peeks the nommed target accidentally and rascal is not cv ****
d6n6 actions
lynch rascal
nom hifi
d7 players
SuperMonkeyFace
GatorJH
wolfy wolf gator wiiiiiiiinns!
SCENARIO 2
assuming beck nom. assuming poisoner is mmm and nommed next
d4 players
Beck Novo
Hifi
SuperMonkeyFace
lilrascal
Luco
MadMojoMonkey
OngBonga
Wufwugy
GatorJH
d4n4 actions
lynch wuf
poison rascal
nom beck
d5 players
Hifi
SuperMonkeyFace
lilrascal poisoned
Luco
MadMojoMonkey
OngBonga
GatorJH
d5n5 actions
luco lynched
rascal succumed
ong poisoned
mmm nommed
d6 players
Hifi
SuperMonkeyFace
OngBonga poisoned
GatorJH
lynch gator ftwwwwwwwww!
if these are correct. the only way it is not locked up is if the seer poisoner and wolf hit the same target. so if this is correct, it means the poisoner needs to out and needs to confirm with beck which different targets they are going to hit
how do these change if the wolf noms a poisoned target?
off top of head im assuming if wolf hits poisoned target it's more than locked in for v win
you said wimming. i thought that was abrev for wifomQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace
Why would the wolf ever not eat the cleared players? (i.e. HiFi, SMF, the Poisoner, and myself)Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
If the wolf wants to eat into the PoE then he only speeds up his inevitable demise.
yeah that became clear to me after i posted itQuote:
Originally Posted by Beck Novo
Yeah this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck Novo
Also, I don't think it matters if seer & poisoner target the same person as the end result is the same (removal of that player from poe)
look at my post. if the poisoner is hit tonight and beck doesn't get a lookup, it's not cinched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luco
Yes it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
oh wait yeah because smf would just heal himQuote:
Originally Posted by Luco
so why hasnt the wolf conceded
unless there's a way for the wolf to nom smf tonight and that be better for him. im not sure how that would be the case
I was just typing a post to explain this but you got there on your own :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Because they haven't posted since we did the math (rascal), or they have reasons for continuing that don't involve winningQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
well whatever im not going to draw this out, even if it means there is some small chance it isn't locked up. at least four of you seem to think it's locked, and my own analysis of it is that it's locked, so here it is
me poisoner
i suspect the last wolf was extremely close to figuring that out by now
lynch gatorQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
HI,
Spoiler:I'm Wufwugy.
in case you wanna know, here's my write up for my play
i poisoned siu. he was slanking and everybody skipped over him for gizmo for d1 lynch.
batm for the same slanking reasons. im not much of a soulreader, but i do think it's important for vigs to weed out the players most untethered (and subsequently hardest to read and biggest endgame liabilities).
smf for the "most untethered" reasons. plus his soft hard soft claim was so weird that it couldnt have come from a seer and was very unlikely to have come from a vanilla. i could see what he did as a wolf plus an iso of him looked worse than gator's. mainly i just didnt wanna hit the seer, and i thought he was never seer so it was fine.
my play strategy was to slip inside that tiny box where you're unlynchable as well as unnommable. so i had to play a little carelessly and rustle some jimmies, while also getting cleared in doing so. wolves have a really hard time nomming players they think the village is not happy with, but i have a history of being able to get cleared by the village by making them unhappy so i figured i could do it.
my self bold was me trying to say "if you really want me dead then you'll get your wish", becuase i thought it was a powerful way to make villagers not want to lynch me and wolves not want to nom me
WIM = want it moreQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Awesome.
Any CCs?
(Please CC.)
Lynch Gator
Gator there's 18 hours left and no MAJ in force, props to you if you wanna play it out but you've already more than earned your arooo
PoE
Gator, MMM, lilrascal, Luco, Ong
One today, two tomorrow, two the final day.
@baud, if the final wolf doesn't concede, can we play like hour long days/nights?
Withholding vote to avoid maj
Theres no maj till MYLOQuote:
Originally Posted by HiFi
This is what I was holding out for.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I had you as posioner and was totally nomming you tonight, hoping beck peeks you. Not happening now.
I concede.
Arooooo motherfuckers.
WhaaatQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Fucking wp
great job ong!
i am pretty astonished at how well everybody else was a so emphatically clearing themselves from being a special. even without that, the poison patterns point towards me. i didnt think there was much that could be done about that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Yeah I'm pleased that noone had me pegged after d2, but we fucked up with boog's claim. If he holds his backup claim for a day, we win. So close, but i crunched the numbers a day too late.
wp village.
wolf and dead threads?
fwiw it's much easier to play wolf when everyone thinks you're a villager. I pretty much convinced myself I was a villager, I had to stop myself from pointing out the poisoner needs to out today!
I don't think this is going public. I believe one of the wolves is reserving his/her right to privacy in this regard. As far as I'm concerned, it's up to him/her is he/she wants it public.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Yeah I've found this tooQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
You had so so so so much in your favour this game
Hardon for drew
pushing for aubrey
Advising against a gizmo lynch
SHOOTING AUBREY
pushing hard at boog
it goes on and on
Don't forget drew blasting the only wolf having any serious chance of winning.
I don't think I'm ever getting village cred again after this game.
luco I was convinced you were seer, but I had the luxury of taking out the confirmed special last night, and waiting for a claim.
wuf hitting SMF was a) bad because it should've been obvious he was healer or last wolf, a lost cause for him anyway, b) offered me a lifeline because it kept gator vanilla in the game (I knew he was vanilla, our only peek was bigred), and c) told me that wuf was poisoner because I know how much he hates following village stratgey when special.
I'd probably have concede much earlier had wuf posioned gator.
That tooQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
The seer is this game is perfect, fwiw. That a seer can be this deep and still the game isn't always locked is outstanding.
This may be the best wolf game ive ever seen from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I tip my hat
In all honesty, Ong, I would've guessed you were the last wolf last of any of the players left in the PoE.
Mostly based upon your early interactions with BID.
wasnt the village strategy to poison smf if boog flipped w?
it isnt that i dont like village strategy on specials, but i dont read them. things are better without specials talk because the natural state is for villagers to be adept at showing their vanillaness when discussing specials and for specials to have a hard time of keeping from giving out tells when talking specials
You have the luxury of not having seen me as wolf before, so it doesn't surprise me. People here know I can be easy to read with my tone, and here I did an great job of playing my villager game thanks to the fact I didn't have to defend myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck Novo
Normally I'm a great strategist and bad with tone. Here it was the reversal, so it's no wonder regs considered me a lock villager.
I think this isn't as good as the time I won with keybored. I guess losing is the reason I think that.
Well I had a lot of fun playing here. That ITA session is what really screwed the wolves. Sorry 'bout that.
That ITA session was fun.
And it didn't screw us. I got a lot of village cred from that.
Honestly, if boog doesn't claim vanilla, we win. That was where we lost, not the ITAs.
I'm not implying any blame on boog, in case that's what it looks like. We talked about it and it was a joint decision. We both felt the claim was necessary, because we thought the backup would cc. We didn't anticipate that the seer could take the line of holding a backup claim.
I enjoyed this game a lot, thanks baudib.
problem is once smf and gator are gone and the wolf remains, everything changes. nobody would be getting any of the v cred that they did previously.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
endgame construction is the most underrated strategy. it allows the village to operate on a level above the wolves.
Endgame would've been interesting. I was probably gonna have to face off with mojo again, and tbh I'm disappointed that you fuckers have denied him his chance of revenge.
D1 ong led the charge against both bid and aubrey
I didnt even glance at ong after they flipped
You played superbly. You had 3/5 wolves pegged and were sniffing around me. I was really hoping you'd change your tune on me when they flipped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luco
Oh luco, the only reason I stopped to think you weren't seer is because you said out of kami and ship, ship was wolfier.
I was mulling over that for some time, considering if you'd swing for someone you know is villager just to keep us on our toes.
Killing gabe last night was absolutely the right move. It was so nearly you, and that's instant concede once you flip vanilla.
btw a player deciding the wolf thread won't go public is unacceptable. it's as much public domain as the game thread. nobody even cares about what is said unless it's a direct insult to somebody else. it's each player's duty to not post things they regret, and if they do, to delete them.
but it is unacceptable policy for any specific players to get special treatment.
that said, im not saying this because i want to read it. i dont even care and i only just skim wolf threads anyways. on principle if somebody doesnt want me to read their posts i dont (which is why i dont read deleted posts even though mods can). i just think it needs to be clear that going forward there will be no assumption that an individual player can get special treatment at the expense of everybody else. the wolf thread is a public thread. end of story.
I disagree, but I haven't the enthusiasm for this debate. All I'll say is I believe the wolves have the right to veto. I personally would never do so, but I have no problem with others doing so. I'm not dropping the link unless all wolves are happy, I don't care what other wolves or baudib does with the link.
Why the hesitancy? Did one of the wolves post personal information? Or did they verbally harass another player?
I can't imagine why we can't see the thread?
Literally no reason other than a wolf who wanted it to remain private pretty much from the word go.
The ong / bid intrraction is great. Like when bid shot you you instantly called him a sneaky fucker for waiting for you to shoot first
And all that bollocks about his sig.
I could go on
Fuckin smoooooth as hifi would say
this kills the spirit. fairness and openness is paramount to the integrity of the game. the wolf thread is separate from the game thread for the sole purpose of maintaining game function. it has nothing to do with giving the players as people special treatment.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
take this scenario in: there is a player who, whenever he's a wolf, vetos revelation of the wolf thread. eventually everybody is going to know who this guy is and fucking hate him. our dislike for him would have nothing to do with his actual behavior in the thread but in his choice to treat his werewolf family (that's what this is) as if he's more important.
that said, if this is truly a special case, where the player made such an ass of himself that it is better all around to not reveal, then k fine don't reveal. but that assumes that he doesn't have post delete repsonsibility as well as there are four other players who are also getting special treatment in that they know about it. the whole idea is silly. what in ww is said to one player is said to all.
going forward, the policy needs to be that no player gets special treatment.
Thanks for modding baud!
I'm fairly null on the den thread thing, is the dead thread going public?
Poisoner gets to poison if he doesn't get lynched which is why I said if poisoner doesn't out today lynch me.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
i remember modding a situation like this. i said the thread was going public (since the expectation by all is that it goes public), and that was that.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
So good. So good, I cry. :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
http://www.memrise.com/s3_proxy/?f=u...624225419.jpeg
For real, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Sigh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luco
It's rascal. It's always rascal here.
[b]lynch rascal
i really am impressed with your play ong. there are few truer words than that wolfing flows so much better when you aren't getting crushed. ive experienced the counter, where you get wolf for the first time in years and the game opens with four revenge bolds on you
You guys are fucking idiots. It's not me!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Luco
Ong, you fucking screamed at me and beck to let you shoot drew
ffs how do I stick you in my wolf leans after that? No fair
god i love gator
gator's catching upQuote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
BRACE FOR IMPACT
Haha so I correctly peeked OMG wolf?
And then made boog cry.
I'm too good for the sake of the game.
Batman GOAT!
Holy shit!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
GG Ong. I had you fairly clear. I'm happy that I was right on 3 of 5.
I still don't understand Gator's post about me earlier (I read it at lunch and was ready to come in to lynch him for it). That post was wolfy.
i wanna see your final formQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBrokenATM
Lynch GatorQuote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
Quote:
Yes, I know it's Ong.
I know rightQuote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
I said in the den something to the effect of "how amusing that a villager is talking a wolf out of shooting a wolf".Quote:
Originally Posted by Luco
Much lulz in ITA.
wait did he really say "it's always rascal here"
srsly never go full wuf. i do that shit all the damn time. it never pays off. except for laughs.
On the topic of the wolf den:
I don't see any reason this is necessary. I don't like the precedent, but as a one-off, I'm cool with it.
This is FTR, not some backpacker's hovel. We're an awesome group of people who are fun to be with. We accept outlandish behavior from time to time from all of our most loyal posters, because it has been shown time and again that we're way too cool for normal internet folk.
Normal internet folk leave are annoying and impersonal and can't handle the awesomeness.
Cool people stay on FTR 'cause we're da best around (Nubba nebba gon nugget me down).
If some new guy wants a favor, then that's cool. He earned it by playing nice with us in our fun game.
It is a favor, though, and not what I think we should be doing as far as game integrity goes.
Yeah you had me, I was glad you weren't convincing anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBrokenATM
Lots of strong villagers this game
it's not a new guy. it's a regQuote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
This was fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
Get rekt.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBrokenATM
So way to play horribly wolves... Boog helped a lot bussing there.
How hard it is to just kill a villager who is not doing much ? Gotta play with balls.
Gg all
I'm sad cuz I still get no sex.
But I still go around all the internet sites and crush wolves and other bad players alike lolololol.
Fun times boys. Out
All the more reason (s)he's earned a favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
i cant believe how absent of gifs this game was.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBrokenATM
http://funnyismcontent.s3.amazonaws....82c595c1dc.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Gg all. (Most anyway) and well done ong. If it weren't for mechanics I dunno how end game woulda went down. You kneeless soab.
Thanks baudib, fun game!
My apologiesQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Probably why I got poisoned
BATM, we lost by the slightest margin and it wasn't because of bussing. I bussed my enitre team here, but we lose because of a bad fakeclaim. If we get that right, it's a different story.
Wolves in last few games here have been owned because of poor distancing. I wasn't gonna fall on that sword.
Thanks guys, I appreciate all the compliments. Shame I didn't win though.
i suspect after he sees this he will be okay with the thread opening. back when i modded and he didn't want the thread opened, he was totally okay with it opening when i said it would. frankly i dont know why he would want it private in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
http://i.imgur.com/eUKrh6U.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy