Tit for Tat Werewolf

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Ok what does POE and aorn mean?

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Process of elimination

As of right now

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I was thinking about this too.

I'd like to hear reasons why we shouldn't be claiming right now.

If all three power roles claim, any counter claim is a wolf.
This will avoid a derailment from a vanilla villager feeling like making a fake claim.
The wolf will obv nom the power roles at night.
Every lynch from here on out is of a vanilla villager or a wolf.

Or, we could just proceed as usual and if a power role is on the block, they can claim. The problem with this though will be of timing. Maybe they won't be around at eod. Or, if we make a late switch, it could be to a different power role that may not be available at eod.

At first glance, I'm leaning towards everyone hard claiming.

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I don't think we should claim. Why make it easier for the wolf? I think the PR's should only claim if they're in trouble.

At this point, I don't see any reason for a late day switch. We should work on a POE and I still like what you and I talked about earlier.

Lynch/vig gabe and gator and then jailkeep the next most likely candidate.

Or, the jailkeeper could just jailkeep the same person and if we don't get another wolf kill, then that person is the wolf. If not, then that player is lock clear.

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

I don't agree with your POE. I think it's much more likely to be gabe or gator than Luco or hoopy.

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I don't necessarily disagree

They literally need to post first before I lynch them though

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

I don't necessarily disagree

They literally need to post first before I lynch them though

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I mostly agree with that. If they don't post at all, I don't see keeping them around either.

well i tried

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

I don't agree with your POE. I think it's much more likely to be gabe or gator than Luco or hoopy.

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I'm leaning this way too. Getting complaisant.

Here's the rolecop role PM from the Mafiascum link. Unfortunately, at this point there only power is to find villa PRs.

Town Backup Role Cop
Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Town Backup Role Cop.
Abilities:
In the event the Mafia Role Cop dies, you will gain its power and be able to investigate a player at night to discover their role. Vanilla Townies are Mafia Goons both investigate as "Vanilla".

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I'm leaning this way too. Getting complaisant.

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I'd really like to get the last wolf in a sweep without a villa even dying.

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Originally Posted by Kami

good job missing the point bub
i was saying my votes arent there to satisfy you and i dont see how not flip flopping my votes means im not partcipating

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I honestly have no idea what you're going on about. I'm down for changing the subject if you are.

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I honestly have no idea what you're going on about. I'm down for changing the subject if you are.

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you forgot your own posts bub?

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

I'd really like to get the last wolf in a sweep without a villa even dying.

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I got excited :/

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Originally Posted by Kami

you forgot your own posts bub?

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I feel like you want to engage with me but idgaf

what the fook

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Originally Posted by Kami

Luco
luco the last woof and his votes make sense from a woof perspective

fight me

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Wouldn't mind a Kami/luco tdome

I just bolded kami.

But erased it.

Thought I'd let you guys know..

You may or may not get mod killed for that

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Wouldn't mind a Kami/luco tdome

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No, I think they're both villas and v/v tdomes aren't very satisfying.

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Wouldn't mind a Kami/luco tdome

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What does tdome mean?

If it means something to do with killing kami, I'm game.

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

You may or may not get mod killed for that

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I didn't edit. Just typing in my little text box

Lilrascal start posting more like you were yesterday please

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

This game is based on the following approved setup from mafiascum...

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tit_for_Tat

All roles are exactly as described in this link, so please take a moment to read the role pms.

Blah... Wolves have day and night talk. Majority not necessary, but will insta lynch. Ties settled by first one to the post. It's ok to quickly edit typos, but don't abuse this. Anyone caught modifying the context of a post will be modkilled. Self voting is fine, it's +1 to your vote tally. I will not modkill for inactivity, however I will seek replacements if necessary. Quoting your role pm is fine, seeing as I've linked the game page. Don't quote anything else I might send via pm. There will be no surprises, game is as described in the link. This has been played as a 12-man format at least 8 times at MS, links at the bottom of the game page if anyone can be bothered with that, so it should be considered balanced. It looks fun to me.

Days will be 48 hrs (+24 hrs for weekend) nights 24. Thread will be closed during the night.

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I really hope Ong doesn't MK here and ruin our sweep of the wolves, unless my paranoia about SMF is right. (But I don't think it is.

Thunderdome

Go head-to-head while we all watch and learn who the wolf is

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Lilrascal start posting more like you were yesterday please

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What part? I'm about to go to bed.

Also, who are you?

Lilrascal. Don't worry, the paranoia is reciprocated bud

Like, I hope you're a power role otherwise I'll just end up wanting to kill you..

That's if this game isn't over after today/tonight

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Lilrascal. Don't worry, the paranoia is reciprocated bud

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:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

What part? I'm about to go to bed.

Also, who are you?

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The villagery parts

It's better kept secret :thumb:

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Like, I hope you're a power role otherwise I'll just end up wanting to kill you..

That's if this game isn't over after today/tonight

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I'm hoping it's over with today's lynch.

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

The villagery parts

It's better kept secret :thumb:

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I've been game solving today. I really think it's between gator and gabe. Everyone else has something going for them when you look at the votes and vote progression.

I'm eagerly awaiting their entrances

I'm off to bed now. Good night.

AORN, my POE desires a gator vs gabe tdome.

http://i.imgur.com/kEmPTNF.jpg

then vote me im not afraid
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

AORN, my POE desires a gator vs gabe tdome.

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I feel like a proud father. Eyes are watering up

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Originally Posted by Kami

then vote me im not afraid
:popcorn:

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Are you sure you want us to start voting you?

Spoiler: Show

http://i.imgur.com/PQR5vqq.jpg

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Originally Posted by Kami

then vote me im not afraid
:popcorn:

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I think you're more likely a villager than at least three others.

Can't vote you yet.

http://i.imgur.com/0w2FdP5.jpg

Smf can't be a wolf. Too many gifs.

Rascal is doing the Lord's work.

I think kami and smf really want me to be the last wolf.

But your princess is in another castle

I just iso'd hoopy. 22 posts, wasnt hard.

He fluffs the entire time except for 5 posts or so where he says I'm wolfy, I'm still wolfy, jkds is weird, wouldn't lynch rilla, luco, or rascal, and get on the monkey wagon.

I think his soft push is bad on jkds. He didn't give a read on me other than wolfy but then asks people to join my wagon (what wagon?). All while saying jkds is sketching him out the most but never votes him once. That reads w/w to me. He gave an actual explanation on his jkds read. Didn't vote..

Whoever claims a lot of experience with hoopy. ISO him yourself and give me your thoughts

Please.

ISO = advanced search playername, hoopy. Forum, werewolf village.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

VOTE COUNT

baudib - 2 (rilla, wuf)
jkds - 2 (rascal, drew)
drew - 2 (luco, baudib)
luco -2 (gator, kami)
monkey - 1 (hoopy)

not voting - monkey gabe jkds

7 is maj, 23 hrs left

This is the sorry state of Britain these days. look at all these shops to let. The High Street is dead.

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5a&oe=568EF720

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This is a very interesting vote count

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

ISO = advanced search playername, hoopy. Forum, werewolf village.

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Thats the long way round

Go to werewolf village and click on the post count for this thread, it shows you who posted. Then click the post number of the player you want to iso

I'm waiting until there is roughly 24hrs remaining in the day before I vote.

Afk players need to participate or I'll be chopping off the short legs.

With only one wolf remaining, by far the easiest way to survive for long enough to win is to coast under the radar.

That vc^ with speculation on luco. This is 23 hrs before EOD. And remember his EOD (1 hr EOD was voting baudib n then switched to jkds

baudib - 2 (rilla, wuf)
jkds - 2 (rascal, drew)
drew - 2 (luco, baudib)
luco -2 (gator, kami)
monkey - 1 (hoopy)

not voting - monkey gabe jkds

7 is maj, 23 hrs left

Problem is. Luco would have to be the vanilla wolf

There's no way baudib and jkds are top 2 wagons as PR wolves and they don't just bus/lynch luco when he's a viable option and a weaker wolf. But at the same time it makes no sense if he's a villager why they didn't get on that wagon while it was available all day

END OF DAY 1 VOTE COUNT

baudib(wolf rolecop!) - (3) rilla, wuf, drew
jkds - (3) rascal, monkey, luco
luco - (2) gator, kami
monkey - (1) hoopy
drew (1) (baudib)

not voting - gabe jkds

Super easy thing to do if gator or Kami is a wolf to just not come back for EOD cause their vote is already where it needs to be

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Super easy thing to do if gator or Kami is a wolf to just not come back for EOD cause their vote is already where it needs to be

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True, but the same could be said for any player not on one of the two main wagons.

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I'm waiting until there is roughly 24hrs remaining in the day before I vote.

Afk players need to participate or I'll be chopping off the short legs.

With only one wolf remaining, by far the easiest way to survive for long enough to win is to coast under the radar.

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Yeah so im gonna hang back a bit and let you guys play for a while

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

why again is hoopy supposedly v?

as the self-proclaimed master reader of the hoopman, i have seen some of what usually tells me he's a wolf. not enough to be positive, but some

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Mere mortals do not 'read' the hoopman.

My thoughts.

rascal- village for the work he's doing. Took vote off Luco at critical stage that prevented baudib from voting for him.

luco - If he was a wolf surely he gets bussed by baudib, village getting a seer is bad.

rilla - JKDS vote is odd and I want him to say something about it. Regardless he pushed baudib all day and left his vote on him at crunch time.

drew - voted and stayed on baudib

wuf - ditto

monkey - probably village, seemed genuinely confused what was happening at EOD, would have coordinated better as a wolf. Not 100% though.

Which leaves.

kami
gator
gabe

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Problem is. Luco would have to be the vanilla wolf

There's no way baudib and jkds are top 2 wagons as PR wolves and they don't just bus/lynch luco when he's a viable option and a weaker wolf. But at the same time it makes no sense if he's a villager why they didn't get on that wagon while it was available all day

END OF DAY 1 VOTE COUNT

baudib(wolf rolecop!) - (3) rilla, wuf, drew
jkds - (3) rascal, monkey, luco
luco - (2) gator, kami
monkey - (1) hoopy
drew (1) (baudib)

not voting - gabe jkds

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JKDS was absent at EOD right? So he couldn't help out. rascal switched to JKDS from Luco, which stopped baudib putting a 5th vote on Luco.

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

I just iso'd hoopy. 22 posts, wasnt hard.

He fluffs the entire time except for 5 posts or so where he says I'm wolfy, I'm still wolfy, jkds is weird, wouldn't lynch rilla, luco, or rascal, and get on the monkey wagon.

I think his soft push is bad on jkds. He didn't give a read on me other than wolfy but then asks people to join my wagon (what wagon?). All while saying jkds is sketching him out the most but never votes him once. That reads w/w to me. He gave an actual explanation on his jkds read. Didn't vote..

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JKDS bothered me because of his open bold on wuf, he explained and that was that.

You had nothing at that point, hence the vote.

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Originally Posted by baudib

good job guys, enjoy your week of AIDS

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Luco on 2.

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Lynch luco

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

Lynch Luco

Going back to my first instinct.

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4 tied with baudib

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Originally Posted by baudib

Not voting for Luco just on principle. He's not in the top half of wolfy players in the game.

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Why didn't he vote Luco right here?

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Originally Posted by baudib

I'm surprised too. Why aren't we just lynching Drew or JKDS?

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Push but didn't change his vote.

:popcorn:

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Originally Posted by baudib

wait is it JKDS or Luco in 2nd.

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If Luco was a wolf he would be talking with baudib in the wolf thread. baudib would know who was in 2nd. Makes me think that the final wolf was afk.

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

6 pages of explosion is going to take a little bit to get through, and it will have to wait until after golf this morning.

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Gator never got back to the thread, more likely to make the effort as a wolf imo.

Impossible to tell about gabe. Cannot read kami.

LUNCH.

I think I figured out why baudib didn't want to switch to Luco. AFK Gator was already on Luco and baudib and JKDS switching to Luco would have put all 3 wolves on that wagon.

Kami was on that wagon too, but she wasn't AFK.

In case I don't get back before EOD:

Lynch Gator

VOTE COUNT

luco - 1 (kami)
gator - 1 (rascal)

note voting - drew rilla luco monkey hoopy gator wuf gabe

Deadline is around 35hrs

baudib's Mom on WWTBAM

http://mostlulz.com/images/2012/June...81423ea111.jpg

I was thinking EOD was this evening, not tomorrow, but I stand by my vote for now. I still want to hear from Gabe and Gator.

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I was thinking EOD was this evening

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I initially said Tuesday midnight because I'm stupid. I updated d2 OP to say Wednesday but you may have caught the Tuesday typo.

Days will be minimum 48 hrs. 34hrs+ remain.

Sorry for being AFK so much this game guys, but life just exploded for me. The weekend was a blur then I was a last minute invite to a 3 day off-site work meeting with my new organization.

It is probably going to be Thursday before I am going to be able to provide any relevant content.

Fortunately the village is in REALLY good shape. I will try to at least skim the thread the next few days but in all honestly will most likely go with Rilla's read until I have time to formulate my own.

Rilla,
Give me your top three wolf candidates and I will try to find some time today to ISO them and provide my thoughts.

Good job

If my vote becomes necessary I'm just going to go back and see who lead the baudib push and vote with them. It's a waste of time to scrutinize me for non posting

Also the fact baudib went out of his way to give me a pass isn't something that would happen if we were w/w

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

Rilla,
Give me your top three wolf candidates and I will try to find some time today to ISO them and provide my thoughts.

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There is already a strong consensus of who are on the block:

You
gabe
hoopy
kami

Iso them

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

Post--Voter----------------Votee
8-----a500lbgorilla--------baudib
18----wufwugy------------wufwugy
39----lilrascal-------------Luco
50----GatorJH-------------Luco
70----JKDS----------------wufwugy
104---wufwugy------------baudib
161---JKDS----------------Unvote
183---JKDS----------------Bankitdrew
242---lilrascal-------------JKDS
267---Bankitdrew---------JKDS
282---Luco-----------------Bankitdrew
296---JKDS----------------Unvote
301---Hoopy---------------Supermonkeyface
356---Kami-----------------Luco
404---baudib---------------Bankitdrew
489---wufwugy------------Bankitdrew
504---Bankitdrew----------wufwugy
527---a500lbgorilla--------baudib
550---wufwugy-------------baudib
562---Supermonkeyface---JKDS
598---Luco------------------baudib
607---Bankitdrew-----------baudib
616---Supermonkeyface---Luco
619---lilrascal---------------Luco
642---lilrascal---------------JKDS
660---Supermonkeyface---JKDS
663---Luco------------------JKDS

I know it's ugly, but here's the votes by post.

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Great work rascal.

Both wolves voted drew during D1, he then put a critical vote on baudib. Very -EV for any wolf to do.

drew is a villager.

GG

I'm getting nommed

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

looked like pocketing to me too.

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What is pocketing?

Pocketing is a dumb concept where the wolf will call ppl villagers in order to get in their good books

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Pocketing is a dumb concept where the wolf will call ppl villagers in order to get in their good books

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New name for an old practice I guess.

Waiting on rilla.

Waiting on me to walk this game out?

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Alright, I've effectively established my villager game.

Lemme call one out.

Baudib-wolf.



Follow me, boys.

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Don't really understand why this post wasn't followed by 7 lynches to close the day out, honestly.

save it for post game van helsing

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Originally Posted by Hoopy

rilla - JKDS vote is odd and I want him to say something about it. Regardless he pushed baudib all day and left his vote on him at crunch time.

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Fuck it, kick the can on baudib. I dunno what goes through my amazing wolf-hunting mind when faced with dueling wolf wagons and an obv villager to get off the block.

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

There is already a strong consensus of who are on the block:

You
gabe
hoopy
kami

Iso them

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I dun think it's Hoopy.

So there's approx 26 hours remaining in the day and I said I'd bold someone around this time. I also stated that I wanted to wait for someone afk like gabe and gator to participate before I vote.

The problem is that they may not get heavily involved at all today... Oh well I guess.

Gator is 1% sketchier than gabe so:

lynch gator

Ayy lmao

lynch gator

Yeah, I get that. Just a regular villager so if you want to get me out of the way feel free to.

Otherwise I will try to help as soon as I can.

Gator if you're villager then its a shame that real life caught you out this weekend as youve not had any chance to reverse my wolf read on you. As it stands, 25% of your d1 contribution is this post:

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

Meh, I just ISO'd Baud's first 15 posts from last game and this one, and while I can sorta see a difference if I am looking for something I don't think it is enough for a D1 lynch on someone who is pretty good at finding wolves.

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Good morning I'm not voting gator over luco
Why tf would you lynch an inactive over a legit suspicion

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Originally Posted by Kami

Good morning I'm not voting gator over luco
Why tf would you lynch an inactive over a legit suspicion

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nah, i'm derp cleared by wolf power levels or something

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Originally Posted by Kami

Good morning I'm not voting gator over luco
Why tf would you lynch an inactive over a legit suspicion

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I don't have a legit suspicion of luco.

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Originally Posted by Kami

Good morning I'm not voting gator over luco
Why tf would you lynch an inactive over a legit suspicion

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if luco didn't switch to baud, bid probably gets lynched

gabe

he said he'd be back monday (or after monday). well it's that, and he posted once and weakballs at that. if he's v, he's excited about the prospect of finding the last wolf. if's he's w, he probably showed up to the wolfchat with natty ice and game cube only to find baud and jkds guts hanging from the ceiling

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I don't have a legit suspicion of luco.

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Then who do you have s legit suspicion on

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Originally Posted by Kami

Then who do you have s legit suspicion on

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No one

If there's not 10 more posts in this thread by the time I get back here (2 hours ish) then I'm going on another eager monkey gif spree

I hope no one posts for the next two hours.

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

No one

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What the fook

Let's get more votes on gator and then the vig can kill gabe. Both of them are underwhelming me with their posting today.

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

Let's get more votes on gator and then the vig can kill gabe. Both of them are underwhelming me with their posting today.

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This.

commmmmme onnnnnnnnnnn

problem is that gator has actual excuses. he said like a month ago that he doesn't play much because of how overwhelmed he is, especially with fantasy football. add to that a claim that is unlikely to be made up about a specific work engagement.

contrasted to gabe, who, um, has no excuse. gabe is very ungabelike right now. gator is standard given his actual excuses

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

problem is that gator has actual excuses. he said like a month ago that he doesn't play much because of how overwhelmed he is, especially with fantasy football. add to that a claim that is unlikely to be made up about a specific work engagement.

contrasted to gabe, who, um, has no excuse. gabe is very ungabelike right now. gator is standard given his actual excuses

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I think it's unlike both of them no matter what role they randed.

I'm not actually wanting to post too much right now so that I can see SMF's monkey gif spree. Also, I don't have much else to say that I haven't already said.

i dont think this is unlike gator.

also gator doesnt make excuses when wolf. he probably would have made up a simple case on somebody and bolded them

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/118...in-mouth-o.gif