why do you ever have Rascal bolded?Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
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why do you ever have Rascal bolded?Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
This is super weird dynamic between a villager pair. This isn't long after rascal takes his vote of wuf, and he's moaning at someone who is confirmed as same alignment for a not very convincing response to a question?Quote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
The interactions between rascal and wuf are super strange. I think I nailed it that the wolves simply failed to immediately nominate a partner and have made slips.
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Originally Posted by Hoopy
I kind of assumed that if I knew the pairs, that a couple of my suspicions would have fallen onto a villagery player.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Take ong/aubrey for example. At first, my read was that ong was a villager. Then, ongs reveal strat made no sense to me, so I suspected him. I figured aubrey for a villager from the start. So now I'm back to a villager ong.
I agree 100% with gabes reveal strat so I'm nowhere convinced of him as a wolf as a few others here are.
I was supicious of rascal, but I always am, as mentioned earlier. OTOH, I thought wuf was a villager. I have rascal in my wolf pile mainly because of his bad claim strat.
I have zero read on rilla and gator. Fucking hilar because I always say every game that those two I never have a read on. JKDS usually falls in that category too.
Anyways, I like Hoopys list and boog hasn't stood out much since the start of the day. Even then...
rescind
lynch rascal/wuf
Rascal is a wolf 75% of the time solo
Wuf is a wolf maybe 40% of the time solo
Obv together they are the exact same % but I'm just trying to illustrate that I'm less convinced by wuf than I am of rascal.
I forgot about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
Good point.
Let's not go back to me. The light is shining on you right now. Don't play nonchalant. You and Rascal playing against each other is indicative of foul play. Way to FPS your way out of any chance of winning, imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Lynch Wuf
I'm gonna have to go ahead and agree 100% with you on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
absolutely because your thoughts are a misdirection. you're saying "hey guys this is how to catch wolves we should look over there see that over there". meanwhile it gives you the opportunity to do the exact opposite. by itself, this is not a wolf case for you. im trying to demonstrate to ong where his logic that you and gabe cant be wolves together falls apartQuote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
Busy atm, but votes for pairs do not count. You must vote a single person
Also, about 22hrs remain
Yeah, no. Let's talk about why you had Rascal bolded.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
you haven't thought this through.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
if you are correct that rascal and i have been forced into claiming each other, it necessarily means that there are two villagers claimed to wolves, which necessarily means there are two more villagers claimed to villagers not their partners.
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
cmon guys, this is not v-v stuff. This is clearly beyond reaction baiting and levelling with the wolves. As far as wuf and rascal are concerned, they're each fair game for one another. Not once have I felt the urge to throw shit at aubrey.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
rascal and wuf have been caught imo. I think their buddies are boog/hoopy.
how do the wolves botch that ?
Ong I'll give you credit for waiting because it did perfectly trap them. I'm surprised they would make such a basic mistake though. Although wuf did try to tell us this was a good strategy (for wolves to attack wolves)
But you gotta give freud credit where it's due ;)
like ong, you need to think this through. ong's logic cannot be correct. it isn't that it is unlikely to be correct, but that it literally cannot be correct, logistically.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
Wrong. There's a four-way wolf pairing. It was up to you guys to formulate pairs first thing in the den. You didn't. You failed. You lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
sick crosspost.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
I don't fucking know now. I just hate rascal and wuf's interactions.
like i said, fishing. both gabe and hoopy bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
it's bad villaging if you think that we should not have been bolding our partners at least some of the time.
I'm assuming Rilla/Gator here as the rest of the wolves.
incorrect. if that were true, there could be no forcing like ong says.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
Stop pretending to be stupid. I'm arguing the other two wolves claimed before you figured out that you and rascal don't look like partners. Not in any world am I suggesting wolves are buddied to villagers.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
There would be no forcing? What?Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Logistically? Or logically?Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
WUF'S A WOLF!
that's anything other than incredibly idiotic how?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Why is it bad villaging? I'm excited to read this pile of horseshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I'm thinking this seems most likely if it's not you/hoopy. But I'm still glancing through the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
listen i have no problems with you guys killing us. the game has been solved. it's rather clearly gabe boog hoopy keith. get the d2 win if you'd like
wuf, do you think the wolves had their "fakepairs" already in place from their role pm? Or do you suppose they got a pm with three more names in? Did they have the discussion in the den before we got going to the effect of "we need to pick our partners now and only protect those". They might/might not have done. The evidence to me says might not, because you and rascal do not look like fucking partners.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
You're wolves who fucked up. That's much easier to believe than whatever crock of crap you come up with to explain why you're both trying to make each other look wolfy.
I'm excited to read your post game logic. You'll never admit you played incorrectly. This'll be fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
But they were fishing. Gabe and Hoopy bit. It's obvious village strategy.
you haven't thought this throughQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Oh wait, villager Wuf, you should probably explain what information you gained us from your fishing. You know, so the rest of us villagers can use it on D2.
ong gave you an opening due to his lack of thinking things through. you've pouncedQuote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
This vote for your buddy makes no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
WTF are you doing this for if you're a villager with him?
drew, don't quote all the same shit I've just quoted. Start from page 5 if you wanna dig at rascal and wuf's interactions.
But gabe and hoopy bit, too. What about them?Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Sorry. I wanted to see it for myself and when I did, it blew my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Yeah this is the clincher. Here rascal is pressing wuf, tying him to gabe. Why the fuck would he do this if he's a villager who knows wuf is a villager? This is an attempt to put more heat on villager gabe, and when gabe flips villager, rascal can reassess by backing off wuf.Quote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
It seems clear to me that the wolves fucked up by not working in pairs.
There's no way I can believe wuf/rascal are two villagers unless they die and flip green.
If they are villagers, then this is a very good lesson on how not to play this game as villager.
This quote for funsies.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
after this game, when people tell you to stop and think, listening might be a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
the wolves would never get caught like this. you're banking on a team of wolves playing so so so badly that it's substantially worse than anything you've ever seen before.
I mean if these two are v/v, they are outright trolling the shit out of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
FOR FUCK'S SAKE YOU ARE FULL OF SHITQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Putting this one in my pocket for post-game.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
No matter your affiliation, bad play all around. It's a good thing you're a wolf, this would be so much worse if you were a villager.
rascal's reaction?
Slightly fucking villa?Quote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
This is ridiculous. One way or the other, you two have utterly butchered this game.
Yeah as wolves it a mere oversight, as villagers it's bordering on sabotage, and for both to be guilty of this, well the probability is tiny.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
It's a wolf strategy that'll clear him 2/3rds into day 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
since im just waiting around to get lynched so that i can lol at ong's (and bid's) willingness to not think these things through, i'll let you in on what that strategy would have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
i was prepping to make my first post in the den that the two wolves not partnered to me need to attack me hard early. then after my wagon gets to 5 and sat there for a little while, one of them could point out that i couldn't be a wolf since killing me was coming so easily. the village would agree with this since the village always does. it woudl have cleared my partner and i, since the village would be saying what they have been saying all this game, that the wolves cannot attack each other that much due to the format.
note rascal's tone when he finds out him and wuf have been poe'd as partners.
He knew that was far from opitmal.
This probably isn't even their fault, it'll be whichever wolf spewed first.
stop looking at what's right in front of youQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
do you remember the other games where you came away saying how bad your logic was. this one will take the cake. you will walk away seeing why it was really irrational to think that this would happen to the wolves.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Both Wuf and Rascal pairing with either of Rilla or Gator would have lessened the probability of any mal-interaction since the latter two barely posted. Is this Rilla's fault for outing as paired with Gator? I want post-game!
wuf, if you're both villagers, you've both played in a way that forces us to lynch you when we discover you're partners. Don't talk to me about bad logic.
you havent thought it throughQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
OK Wuf, I'll listen. Why is it irrational to think the wolves would make this mistake?Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
somebody tell gator that there's a game running
is it irrational to think that id accidentally where jeans as a tshirt, going through my entire day having no idea why my shirt doesnt fit?Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
the mistake you're asking the wolves to have made (not you, because you're a wolf, but the one ong and bid are making) is something that will never happen bcause of how overly huge of a mistake it would be. people say twtbaw. ong's idea is that on rocket fuel
You're making a show by using some analogy without really saying anything. Is it possible for wolves to have forgotten to pair up?Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
How is it not a fucking huge mistake as a villager to try and make your confirmed villager partner look wolfy? What the fuck are you playing at? This is not an attempt to level with the wolves, it's not reaction baiting, it's constant throughout the game until claim.
Yes wuf, it would indeed be a huge fuck up. It happens. It's an easy oversight to make. It only takes one wuf who wasn't paying enough attention.
hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
BEST
TYPO
EVER
I don't even know if these paired votes are legit. JKDS probably needs to let us know if we can vote like that. Sorry if we can't I think I started it.
possible? yes. >.001 probability? nopeQuote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
frankly im astounded that ong and bid actually think this happened. there are other explanations, but tunnel vision doesn't listen to them.
ong, do you not find it at all ironic that you have said many times how boog and gabe cant be wolves together because of the attacks they had on each other, yet now you're saying rascal and i are wolves who did just that?
Ong wins the thread. However, I don't think I blame Wuf/Rascal here.
BID and Ong should revoteQuote:
Originally Posted by JKDS
even if i die, you guys aren't winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
unless ofc ong wishes to not think things through again and lynch another obvious not wolf on d2
just waiting on gator now
I thought you did that on purpose and I thought it was clever.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Oh yeah, how'd I miss that?
lynch wuf
wuf, yes the irony isn't lost on me. That doesn't change the fact that you and rascal have not been interacting like two people who know each other are villagers, trying to find wolves. I think the probability that the wolves fucked up in this manner is greater than the probability of you and rascal both deciding to troll the game as villagers.
there is another option far more likely than the one you're proposing. you'll find out soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Why wait to tell me what I'm missing?
i want you to figure it out yourself.
at least this game has become exciting now.
You wanted to see who jumped on board? You wanted to see if the wolves would follow your lead? You're pretending this is an elabortae reaction test. That's what I'd do as wolf in your shoes, I think. I mean what else?
I like when Wuf pretends to know something but is all like "I don't want to tell you."Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Classic Wuf.
I'm curious to see this post, actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I hate it when wuf plays teacher, all pretentious and shit.
Does anyone know the answer to this question? hmmmmmm? Anyone?
It's either wolf on wolf action, or villager on villager action. Neither makes sense, consider when they're villagers they're mutually confirmed villagers.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
It's easier to believe wolves do this than villagers.
The only thing I can think of as to why wuf and rascal would do this would be some sort of bait and switch maneuver. I haven't figured out the details of it though.
The chances of this and/or trolling the village as villagers is much lower than the chances of the wolf den just not pairing up.
OTOH, even if the wolves didn't pair up, why attack a fellow wolf member in this format?Quote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
So yeah, what ong said, about neither w/w or v/v making sense.
Wuf has a hard-on for wolf-wolf action when he's a woldQuote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
It doesn't look good for wuf/rascal right now.
I'm going to bed but will be around most of tomorrow.
VOTE COUNT?
Wuf (4): SMF, Keith, Boog, Ong
Boog (2): Rilla, Aubrey
Gabe (2): Wuf, Rascal
Rascal (2): Gabe, Hoopy
7 to lynch, about 20hours remain
lynch wuf
drew your vote remains parked on a pair, so isn't counting.
wuf/rascal is essentially L-2, considering drew will likely jump on board.
nvm
BID and Ong. I sincerely believe that you 2 are villagers.
Quit looking at this at level 1 villaging, this is level 3 at least.
If you let this go thru to D2, then reread this so that we can get the village win.
rascal, if you're v/v with wuf, you're a huge liability tomorrow. Your play with wuf makes no sense from a mutually confirmed villager pov. You're brushing it off as a reaction test, while wuf is being coy.
Only your flip in green will convince me I'm wrong. If that must happen, then today is the day, because I don't want you flipping green tomorrow.
No matter when I flip, I'm flipping green. I'm just disappointed that you can't see that we baited the wolves here to out themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Even you stated that Gabe's a wolf here. If you don't look at this at a deeper level, then we'll get a mislynch today and I hope that you see who the real wolves are.
There is no way in hell I'm losing to wuf and rascal after this debacle.
Could you imagine the lols and bragging rights they'll have? Fuck that. They cannot survive. There's no way.
Their best defense is that not a single player is coming to their defense. It's my only worry.
Did you bait the wolves? Show me for when you flip green. I'll believe you then.
The good thing is that if we mislynch today, then this should be locked for the village. Just look at the reveals today from a level 3 villager perspective and you'll understand.
rilla and gator aren't here.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
Ong, you're still thinking level 1. I truly believe that if you reread thru the thread you can figure this out.
Reread with the assumption that we're both villas and you will come to the correct conclusion and we can win this today.
Shall I shut my eyes when I see you and wuf throw shit at each other to keep up the pretence that you're villagers?
No, I'll just wait for your reaction when we flip villa and then finally listen to what we've been saying and then win this on D2.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Sorry wuf. I was away all day and literally fast forwarded through the last page.
I am wuf's partner, not Rilla's. I am quite certain rilla was laying some sort of trap and now need to thoroughly read the thread so see if I can pick it up.
With that said I still think lynch gabe is our best lynch today.
Rascal,
Now that I have outed I am pretty sure you are rilla's partner. Correct?
Ong,
Take off your tinfoil and look at things rationally. I don't often agree with wuf, but he is correct in that I am pretty sure we have solved the puzzle.
Now we're at level 4. 4 clear villagers working together in the thread to out the wolves.Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
Yes, I was a little surprised when Rilla went with that, but I stayed the course and Wuf willing to take the lynch convinced me he's villa and the game is now locked.Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
Here comes the very predictable defense from gator!
And what is that Drew?Quote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew