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This feels like this is coming from a wolf, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Like, place an extremely easy vote with outdated reasoning. Say you'll leave your vote until you find something more compelling, but do nothing to seek something more compelling. Then dip out.
LAME.
I'll +1 that, Beck
Beck Makes Good Points (TM)
BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE
You say this, aubrey, and conclude that there is definitely a wolf amongst Tom, Ong, Wuf, Gizmo, and BID. Yet when Kami refutes a minute assumption of yours regarding her experience, you default and vote for her? Was that all you needed to change your mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Do you have any more thoughts regarding the five players mentioned above?
I've caught up on the thread. Here's where I stand with my reads for now:
Villa Leans
Beck
Ong
Luco
MMM
TTT
NightGizmo
Neutral
Wufwugy
Kami
JKDS
Hifi
BATM
SMF
No read - Need more posting
aubreymcfate
Bigred
Boog
Dsaxton
ShipItUp
Wolf Leans
rilla
BID
gabe
Shipitup might be a wolf
lynch gabe
I was leaning more towards voting for BID, but gabe's reentry into the thread this evening made it worse IMO.
i mean it all...Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
how is the last sentence garbage? the way i spot villagers is finding those who contribute to the village's solution. i feel like some players lose sight of this so i thought it was worth spelling out. can we just talk about me on day 2...
theres no way we can lynch bigred any time soon. tons of other places to poke in before addressing him. that long post he made is kind of a big deal
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
please tell me why my logic was bad earlierQuote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
i dont like the case against me. feels like it could only be conjured in a wolf brain
I really cannot follow what you're saying most of the time. Where do you want to "poke in"?Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
You haven't done anything to help the village. You've really only talked some mechanics about the poisoner.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
I disagree about that post being a big deal. It's mostly fluff with a lot of "____ is acting like himself, so I don't know" or "____ posted a lot, we'll see". There is no real analysis, it's very wishy-washy.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
i know we have lots of people that have not played with me much, if at all. but i have gotten a few endorsements already saying that i'm not a werewolf fish
i am smart enough, that if i were a wolf, i would not be posting such "out there" stuff. it wouldnt make sense to propose an idea for us to toss around, if the idea was insane and likely to draw attention to me. *it wouldnt make sense as a wolf
ALSO i think i added something to the game with what i added. the village should have a greater chance to win if they keep in mind what i said. that is intrinsically VILLAGERY
Simple question: which two players would you suggest we lynch todayQuote:
Originally Posted by gabe
He = JKDSQuote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
From my POV, yeah. I've gone head to head with him as V/V more than once.
There are a lot of ways to be wolfy, but I tend to find his early-game arguments to sound contrived. By mid-game, he's got my monkey senses all twitchy and I find it hard to believe him. Then he, rightly, turns on me and it all goes downhill.
I've said all this before, and not even recently... so I'm clearly not learning to read JKDS.
If you want to convince me of your "villageryness", then tell me who your top 3 villagers and top 3 wolf suspects are and why.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
thanks for being honest. maybe its hard to follow because its just stream of conscious. i'm not really planning what i say, i just say it. more villagy points for meQuote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
i stated my reads on a few people and helped guide a couple reads. i have talked about poison mechanics but mostly because people engaged me on this topic. i thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
i agree his post is very wishy washy. but recently bigred pretty much didnt show up for some games and siad he was quitting FTR. so i havent seen a nice attempt by bigred in such a long time that i thought that post was kind of a big deal. its not even necessarily villagery but im just not going to vote for him on day 1Quote:
Originally Posted by NightGizmo
lol
I am truly stumped by gabe.
Maybe one of the weirdest posters I've ever seen
Is he always like this? Is he on drugs? What's happening
I love "Arrow" even though it's all kinds of ridiculous.
https://i.imgflip.com/sge86.jpgvia Imgflip Meme Maker
PROSNOST
No, he's not normally like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
i hear you both loud and clear. its time to hunt. i cant really post something i would feel comfortable defending without some intense read through, which is what im doing now and tonight. im online now for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
i also want to add that i think i have a good way to defend myself if the heat on me gets really strong.
would a wolf say that^ sentence?
gabe are you on drugs
If so which drugs
Yes, I've heard it said many times by wolves when they make a fake claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
i dont know what im always like, i am on drugs a fair portion of the time im cruising the internet, and we are playing werewolf. i will say that i have a hard time imagining you being a wolf with your line of questioning. however i dont get the same vibe from lil rascal's. his accusations seem more empty than yours, because you are new and hes been aroundQuote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
Alright well it's obvious that gabe is softing being a PR and I had him pegged as a wolf or a PR for a while now
It doesn't explain the ridiculous tone but I'm willing to vote elsewhere
How about that cat avatar person?
Lynch Aubrey
ok, i believe you since i think you are much more experienced than me.Quote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
i guess the real question is, would a wolf say "would a wolf say that^ sentence?" ??
because if not, i gotcha there ;)
LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
I want you to answer Tom's question about which drugs you're on.
Yeah I want an answer to the drug question also lol
I need to go relook at her, but Beck made some good points that make her not look so good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
Gabe, go look at BID and rilla. Both are pinging me this game, especially BID. You have more experience with them, so give me your take on them.
JESUS CHRIST YOU GUYS STOP POSTING IVE BEEN READING FOR OVER HALF AN HOUR AND EVERY TIME I FLIP THE PAGE THERE'S A BRAND NEW ONE YOU LOSERS POST FASTER THAN I READ
Wuf, where are you on reading?
apparently the solution is drugsQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Wuf, what's your read on BID and rilla?
tom, rascal: have you heard of a cheeba chew?
my gut has my suspicious of jkds, rilla, aubrey and rascal. i remember i wasnt suspisicious of hifi but someone gave me a reason to be during my review
aubrey, kami and hifi are the females among us? i want to get my pronouns right before i dig in to them
This guys talking about pronouns
I'm just laughing now. What a mind
She's only got 3 posts so far (380, 388 and 416). Her switch on Kami is not great, but I don't think it's lynch worthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
Well I lost enthusiasm for JKSD after MMM said he's consistently wolfyQuote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
No, I haven't heard of cheeba chew, but I just googled it: "Award winning marijuana edibles for medical card holding patients in California and Colorado. Medical cannabis infused products are for adults only."Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
LOL
Lynch Aubrey
but i still want more from JKDS
Yeah, JKDS often comes off that way, but not always. I still have him in my neutral pile for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
Read my posts at the top of this page and give me your take.Quote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
Yeah, but JKDS entered the thread with the intention to vote for Tom. You can tell because he voted before he justified said vote. Which is why his whole shtick feels contrived. If he's consistently wolfy then he deserves his fair share of attention.
so far i see BID as a villager. i think the way he explains why he wants kami dead is valid. however i disagree with him. im weary of these women playing because its harder to get in their head. is that sexist
I read it and agree that it doesn't look good for her, but I think there are better wolf candidates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck Novo
Who? gabe? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
I understand him about Kami, but what he said about Ong which I quoted earlier just don't sound like villager BID. He flip flops on what he says to and about Ong and then actually says he finds Ong to normally make "concise" posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
Have you ever hear him or anyone call Ong's posting "concise"? (No offense Ong. :heart: )
shipitup / monkeyface / jkds / aubrey / boog is the list i feel comfortable lynching from. all with 3 posts or less. there is definitely a wolf in there but it doesnt mean the odds are good enough to just pick one blind
ong is v because his reads are very v ong
schrodinger's bid is schrodinger's bid. he's in his v and w ranges. the first thing ong didnt like about him (saying ong is lock w but then voting for kami), bid has done as v many times. the second thing ong doesnt like (bid's sig choice) has legs but i dont know what to make of it. bid does the opposite of what normal humans do but then will surprise you and do exactly what us normies do.
rilla has sucked as v too. remember last game where he didnt show up for like 50 years after that amazing d1 read?
i have never had success reading gabe d1. also by the time i got to him arguing with you guys, i started skipping because im already way behind schedule.
if ttt is wolf he's tt for a reason
no reads on anything else. kami is still doing exaclty what she did last time as a wolf. to a t. i have no desire to lynch the top five or so posters because theyre probably all villagers. wolves could easily all be laying back. in fact i think that at least one wolf is in the group of people who are easy to predict to get modkilled for inactivity (bigred, aubrey, apparently dsax).
oh yeah bmac or jmac or scat or whatever that initialism of that one dude's name is, he could be wolf. the guy from pog or whatever who has only posted like five times and does it like daven (uses stanzas instead of paragraphs).
BankItDrew (BID)Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck Novo
on day 1 im not going to vote for the following people. some are wolfy but since they are active, i wont vote for them this early.
a500lbgorilla
BankItDrew
Beck Novo
Bigred
Gabe :rolleyes:
lilrascal
Luco
MadMojoMonkey
NightGizmo
OngBonga
TheBrokenATM
TopTierTom
Wufwugy
If I find the blood of a villager on my hands, and gabe had a part in the wagon, then I will seriously question gabe. Until then, I'm happy if he's involved and posting freely. He's generally one of the low post count players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
Sincerity is an emotion that gabe reeks of, but it took me a long time to become familiar with it.
Really, my read on gabe right now is: I don't think any of gabe's wolfy plans include starting D1 by engaging the entire village in a battle of wits over mechanics which has the obvious result of poisoning villagers.
It's not quite a villager read, so much as an anti-wolfy read.
It's like the scientific process is hard-wired into him, sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
:D
batm that's the guy i was thinking of
thanks for posting this. to me it seemed obvious, but obviously its not obvious !!Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
[that sentence brought to you by Cheeba Chew] :cool:
I definitely agree with you on Ong.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
It sounds like you're suspicious of BID and rilla also.
Gabe I'm holding off on for now. In fact rescind gabe
TTT is good in either role, but I think he's OK right now.
Kami is in her normal place regardless of role from what I've seen.
BATM is probably best described as a combination of Wuf, Ong and Baudib.
it is a legit read that if gabe looks really wolfy he might not be a wolf.
like baud said a game or so ago, he doesnt show his thought processes. he's also fearless. which can easily turn into posting all sorts of stuff that looks bad while just being villy. i mean, there is one thing i really disliked about what he posted, but it's more like i disagree with his logic, and it's better to avoid calling people wolves for that, which i have been wont to do
Rescind gabe
It kind of got lost in the previous post.
so the best and worst player all wrapped into one?Quote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
(1) No, he's actively engaging you in live time. Usually, he's more reserved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
(2) I doubt it. gabe? You on drugs?
(3) We's doing tha dub dubs!!!
As for the rest, just let it sink in. I hope I'm not being impolite to say that gabe is an odd one. He's brilliant and friendly, and worth getting to know, but not like the run-of-the-mill people you meet.
wait if batm is ong baud me, then where the fuck is he?
He's generally a low volume type of player? Because this directly contradicts what Gizmo said early.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
Which of you should I trust?
(I know the answer to this question but I would like your honest opinion in full before I answer.)
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I think he said he was stuck late at work and that he was playing in multiple games.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
An interesting read so far
AAAAAhhhhhh!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
Kill it with FIRE!!!!
:lynch:
LOL. I haven't laughed that hard in a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
TILQuote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
http://cmsimg.airforcetimes.com/apps...says-Air-Force
Does ongie know about these?
Should probably read once more to retain information better
Gizmo hasn't played a game in over a year. I keep spreadsheets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck Novo
YOU DECIDE!!!!
So why might he be dishing out metareads like he has been?Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
gizmo hasnt played in a while. i remember playing a lot with him but i dont even remember my personal reads on him back in the dayQuote:
Originally Posted by Beck Novo
MMM posted a pic of the quad dose chews. DO NOT eat one of these. it will literally ruin your week
i am hanging around but having a hard time currently making a big argument
I don't know how to answer this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck Novo
I have no meta on him, since I clearly haven't played with him in the past year. I can only speculate as to why he's doing anything.
I don't totally hate a vote on Gizmo, but I need to get some sleep.
Gizmo's snap vote over like 1 misread sentence was generally accepted as villagery, but I can't see why in retrospect. It's not like what he posted was a good read or led a good dialogue in the hunting process.
I need to sleep on it, 'cause that exchange kept my vote off of Gizmo, but I'm losing grasp of why.
If Gabe is low volume, that became his norm after I stopped playing.
The first game we played together was "Super Meta Werewolf" near the end of 2012 -- he had double my posts and was lynched day 4 (villager) and I was eaten after day 3. I checked the other games after that and we had similar post counts, but I didn't feel like digging into the threads to find out how much each of us lived. Although, come to think of it -- Vampires and Werewolves was the game that I lasted until the very end, and we had similar post counts -- so he hit his post count in less days than me.
Mod note:
Guys, it says in the OP to put "lynch" in front of the votes for a reason. I won't be counting any votes that don't say "lynch" on them after this until I get Hoopy or someone to run vote counts. glgl
Votecount
Kami 4 (Wufwugy, TheBrokenATM, aubreymcfate, NightGizmo)
BankItDrew 2 (Hifi, OngBonga)
Aubrey 2 (Beck, Top Tier Tom)
TopTierTom 2 (JKDS, Kami)
Wufwugy 1 (Rilla)
not voting: Dsaxton, MadMojoMonkey, Super Monkey Face, lilrascal, Gabe, Luco, Boog, Bigred, ShipItUp
Hi
Top Tier Tom
Bae sponge
This is how I'm reading gabe, but more so because I have a decent idea as to his posting style. Villager gabe is typically in my top three fav villagers list just because he's very good at being a villager when he's a villager. I was corrected earlier re: him being busy irl so I'm skeptical of him being legit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
I'm going to be inactive af tomorrow as well sorry. If it makes you feel better I'm not enjoying being this busy even remotely and didn't plan on this happening when i signed up.
1) Because it acts as a yield sign for future games. I'm not going to make it my sig, I was JK. If I were though, it would just fuck with peoples heads, which I find entertaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
2) Because I'm a villager and I know how wolfy it would be to make it my sig.
3) Because I'm a villager and it pleases me when others think I'm a villager.
Your first question is good but the other two are brutal.
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Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
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Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
Why are you afraid to cast a vote unless someone else is already voting? Don't want to be seen as a bandwagon starter? And how about explaining your reasons for wanting to lynch me, instead of being vague?Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
payback for not letting me bold wufQuote:
Originally Posted by baudib
Bigreds first long reads post is probably the best bigred post I've seen of his, ever. So kudos for starting this game strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
I don't appreciate the part about me but I guess I had it coming, considering what I said about you. But I guess you had it coming, amirite?
I have no defense for you perceiving me as being different this game. Particularly when it's the same thing I said about gabe.Quote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
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Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
It also seems odd to me that you post reads on Gabe, yet obviously haven't read the entire thread yet -- I find it difficult to believe that you missed the entire Cheeba Chews discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
I'm liking beckQuote:
Originally Posted by Beck Novo
To be fair, I actually don't think discussing poisoner mechanics is a bad thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
Obv if it's the only thing then we have a problem.
I'm going to overlook gabe not posting like his normal village self due to the implied substance use of medical marijuana.
However, a baseline should be established.
The mods vote count is incorrect I think. I bolded ong.
Votecount
Kami 4 (Wufwugy, TheBrokenATM, aubreymcfate, NightGizmo)
TopTierTom 3 (JKDS, Kami, ShipItUp)
BankItDrew 2 (Hifi, OngBonga)
Aubrey 2 (Beck, Top Tier Tom)
Wufwugy 1 (Rilla)
OngBonga 1 (BankItDrew)
Bigred and boog both here and both leaning v, good stuff
i disagree with ong being so weirded out by BID's post about changing his sig
classic debate over ong here. "is he being crazy or is he making up stuff because hes a wolf?" im leaning towards towards ong just making a read that i dont believe in
the back n forth between rilla and gizmo seems not WW, and same with rascal/luco on page 4. when we discover the roles of them we will have a little bonus info
this post from rascal:
seems really out of place. i think the idea of "things spilling over from wolf chat" is virtually non existant and is something i will not grant you, despite your experience. this is an extreme reach. i missed this my first time skimming through but tom caught it. wolfy points for rascalQuote:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
and wolfy points for rascal = V points for luco since i think its v hard for them to be WW
what about this makes rascal V? from my games with him, he makes a very good villager. however i have not seen him pull out such a wild read before. its out of character which is wolfyQuote:
Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
Im around and catching up.
since jkds is here, id like to add to the consensus that he seems wolfy very often. jkds you should do more to make us believe you are a villager (in general)
Beck Novo has a strong village lean in my book
I'll level with FTR. I deliberately post little on day 1, because I have always gotten lynched early when I do. Day 2 is also when theres actual info to go through, and its a lot more fun.
Ok, you win tom. I wanted you to be a wolf really badly, but 231 and 232 are super villagery.
unlynch
Probably lynching ong, but I wanna finish catching up. BID, Luco, and ATM are all likely villagers. I like gabe as a villa too.
@Ong: If you're around, your case on BID is essentially that he chose not to vote you, when he thought you were wolfing. He did this exact same thing last game as a villa when he caught me. In fact, that entire string of posts sounds almost exactly like what he did last game, so hes almost certainly villa.
You modded it, why dont you see that?
I was a wolf last game fyi but I don't think you (jkds) played.