lilrascal and I both play on a forum where this is how WW is played
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Early game is interesting. There were four bolds to lynch Wuf within 13 posts. Two bolds to lynch Ong within 15, though rong's is a joke. Ong wagon for the lazy:
I completely missed this interaction. gabe's logic this entire game has been non-existent.
Rescind baudib, lynch gabe.
Keyboard getting agro seems villager to me.
I can understand a gabe lynch, but what I hate about it is the wolves would love it if he's a villager.
Same could be said about rilla, but plenty enough people want him or baudib lynched.
Cuz I shot him wrongly d1 a couple games back and still regret the snap kill.
Cuz I wanna give him more credit than that.
Cuz I wanna see what others think.
Cuz I don't know his other half.
If it turns out Gabe is paired with a weak playing or wolfy partner, I move to that lynch cuz I get more W vibe off Gabe than Wuf right now. Hoopy is pulling my vote to his team ATM.
Think my preferred wagons today would be Gabe/Bigred.
I don't like the argument that we just let Big Red win if he's a wolf. There's a marked difference in his posting here and the game where he was a villager in the game Aubrey was seer. There he was pretty obviously a villager, making effort at figuring out roles, here he just wants to troll.
he's either a wolf or going to be very problematic for us.
here's Gabe's first post last game
kinda similar to this one about Ong, where he talks about a meta read under the guise of helpful information for the village.
I think village Gabe tries to do better than this, are we really to believe that village Gabe is incapable of discerning between village Ong and wolf Ong, especially after he "spewed" so hard last game? Gabe knows that Ong is a strong asset as a villager and would look to preserve him as a villager and get him killed as a wolf.
I'm way less high on either boog or keybored.
lynch gabe
It is forced. It forced up the tempo, pressure, and consequences of the conversation - all things wolves don't like. You don't like it, imagine not liking it but also having to say something about it while being a wolf. Shit's gonna put you in a bit of a spot - force you to do "something". Versus ong who just sits down and refuses to budge, that's natural to him. Or BID seeing the logic in it and gleefully following suit. Or Luco thinking the whole thing a worthless mess and just ignoring it (though, I wonder about this one).
If it happens every time, why is it odd that it happened this time? We haven't played together in forever.Quote:
I'm obviously the wolfiest villager ever as I'm lynched early on in the game every game. Just seems gabe and rilla took advantage of this.
Not the Luco quote, no idea his that got there.
Rescind
Lynch baudib
Not opportunism, logic.
Gabe's open attack on Ong is just terrible if he's a villager.
Yet it took you that long to make this leap of logic.
It's the least paragraph I don't like.
BooG690 Post #192, "Wuf, Rilla and BID need to start thinking through this reveal stuff and stop making it seem that anyone who thinks otherwise is suspect."
BID...How can you claim that most players not revealed (at that time) are villagers? What gives you that insight?
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What the duck is with this multi quote shit.
Well that's not what you just said. Dam it, you're gonna make me go and get a laptop so I can multi quote you.
Gabe's slip is something of a gotcha, in and of itself it ain't much. Out of wuf / boog / gabe he's my preferred lynch though
I'm still on daven though, anyone wanna join me? Nobody else thinks his wuf push feels different this time?
bullshit on your bullshit. I noted that Ong was the first player to post anything of substance, and you were lynching him for non-reasons. Everyone else glossing over Gabe's slip can be considered suspect if Gabe flips wolf.
no, god forbid you ever actually put any effort into the game!
I don't really see how I slipped
My first post in the thread is what I was thinking at the time
Call it terrible or whatever but it was a real post
rescind and lynch baudib
Because he's the most likely wolf...
His posting style is different, he's trying to talk about his great reads on monstr n rascal (last time he told me he had a good read on monstr, they were both wolves), and finally him saying my tactic was terrible seems overly forceful, which might be the wolfiest bit of evidence
Also I think it was baudib that suggested ong is strong enough to be kept around, which I don't think is true in this line up. Everyone is solid
I don't do shit on day 1. If I'm a wolf, no one cares, if I'm a villager, the wolves make you guys care....
Also I've had some very village posts. One of the people on me recently is a wolf
I'm betting this game is pretty frustrating for villagers. You basically have 2 bits of info, your role and who dies with you and that's it.
Certainly less frustrating than the wolf has it - as he already knows every mislynch. There are no surprises, no new info to react to.
I'd bet if you put people into two loose piles - those that have shown frustration or had a heated exchange - and those who have been pretty mellow. I'd bet the wolves fall pretty squarely in the mellow pile.
Gabe's been mellow. Rong's been mellow.
Methinks the wolves are trying to make a strike at me via buadib.
CRUNCH TIME ...
Bigred & LilRascal have not voted yet. Care to get in on this b4 it's too late?
My reasons for baudib are legit. And we need to kill wolves. I would separate your mind bombs if I could. Promise
I didn't think about this until after the fact but MMM makes a good point about my Tupac posts. I just posted cuz I thought it was funny but after thinking about it, I'd never do that as a wolf
Rilla, like Tupac, needs to ask himself if he can blast himself (via baud)
Hey everyone, I only ever make this post you're reading now as villager.
So that's hard proof for you all.
LilRascal - seems pretty mellow
Keybored - not mellow
Ongbonga - not mellow
Gabe - pretty mellow dude
BID - Bigred's laziness is starting to get under my skin. - sound mellow? nah
Wufwugy - not mellow
Rong - a mellow dude
Luco - a little un-mellow
Boog - not mellow
Hoppy - pretty mellow
Baudib - rather mellow
Monstrman - very mellow
Bigred - pretty mellow
MMM - hard to say, a little grating maybe a little grated?
Daven - super mellow
Mellow analysis finds the following people not yellow:
MMM, Boog, Luco, Wufwugy, BID, OngBonga, Keybored - villagers the lot of 'em!
Playing with buddy links and going for the highest EV kills as oppose to trying to get that one that you really think is a wolf is like stacking the deck for the village in later days, guys.
Think on it.
I still have a few hours. Of the most vocal. I would prefer to lynch Baudib or Gabe. Did Gabe reveal a partner? I believe it's Rilla/Baudib which makes me stray from wanting to lynch Baudib.
I typically like to look for the lurkers (ironic I KNOW) but this is a pretty active gang.
gabe, rong, who ya buddies?
**UNOFFICIAL VOTE COUNT**
GABE (4) -- Ong, Baudib, Boog, Rilla
BAUD (4) -- Monstr, MMM, Rong, Gabe
WUF (2) -- Daven, Keybored
BOOG (2) -- BID, Hoopy
MMM -- Wuf
Daven -- Luco
Never voted: BigRed & LilRascal
Known Pairings:
BAUDIB-RILLA
BID-MMM
WUF-HOOPY
BOOG-MONSTR
Fine
I just did in the other post u quoted
Gabe-Rong you say?
Nope. I'll die early, I don't think gabe is wolfy.
Gabe/Rong has to be the lynch.
on the off-chance the mod made W-W pairings it's super hot and crazy +EV.
If wrong, Rong is worthless anyway.
I can see why Gabe wouldn't want to reveal, but why would Rong keep it secret?
on to Day 2.
Ho boy
rescind boog
rilla is looking very villa right now, seriouslyof everyone playing he has the most disparity between wolf and villager.
Lets out the remaining 3 pairs.
BigRed
LilRascal
daven
luco
ong
monstr
Agree Rilla seems villagery, but baudib most certainly does not. If I don't was a wolf I would have just let wuf/hoopy die.
IDGAF = anti-village at best and wolfy at worst.
If you don't want to put in your normal effort, and you're burned out on WW, then ask JKDS to sub you out.
'cause otherwise you're just too wolfy to ignore and rilla seems villa, but dems the casualties of war.
if you can't clear baudib, then yes.
Sorry bro.
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This is what I was worried about. baud gets a pass / free ride by association with a strong villager.
Wolves were going to nom a strong villager anyway.
This game is going to be won by strong V-V pairs being able to clear themselves and their partners.
(This doesn't mean the pair needs to be outed, but POE is going to out the final pairs in no time.)
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Lynching gabe on D1?
I read something about not doing that in 2015. If only I could remember who it was that started that thread...
Personally, I think I have a better read on gabe than most, but that doesn't make gabe easy to read.
I have gabe as leaning V.
I will not be too eager to hop on the gabe train until gabe has shown that he's killing villagers.
gabe's campaign last game was full of holes. I don't know how they were missed, but I could do a powerpoint on some of his wolf moves.
YES the "I'm so villagery" is in there... but I seriously think it's the most obvious one and the easiest to anti-spew.
PLUS... I don't think gabe's anyone's fool, certainly not his own when it comes to WW.
So I'm defending gabe... for now... on D1... and it's a risk.
MMM at 1/20th usual involvement I'll still be a better villager than you or Rong.
it's not like I'm anywhere near the bottom of the game in posts or involvement and I'm super unlikely to openly sabotage the village like you've done.
Prob not moving off Gabe and I'll be all in on Luco or Daven tomorrow.
And besides, baudib is my target. If I thought he was a wolf, I'd play it best for the village. You really think a couple more days with him and I can't figure him out?
Plus, I really want to solve this game.
killing me is going to make that more difficult
i have no read on rong
of the public pairs, would everyone be happy with killing boog/monstr ?
you are all fish if u stick on me. no evidence
Ooooo
That was for the keybored post
rescind and lynch boog
people loving rilla too much to kill baudib today. but baudib is not making it to the end of the game
im sticking with the original boog reads. and its a pair (boog/monstr) that doesnt include me
I'd really like to call Ong a villager but I have this nagging concern that if he and Gabe got wolf together again, they'd take this exact line.
baudib, that feeling doesnt matter because its so unlikely
dont try to influence the village so subversively
Gabe, I just don't believe that you as a villager would really think that default killing Ong because of what he did as a wolf last game would be a good move for the village.
Looks like now you're just flailing about, trying to find a lynch that the group would go for instead of making a case for why they need to die.
ok rilla, time for ev calcs. or how about EW for expected wolf
the EW of my team is ew(gabe) + ew(rong) = 0 +.25
EW of your team = ew(rilla) + ew (baud) = .15 + .4
what
keybored, yes. ill kill hoopy too
Gabe, how about you put your legendary soul-reading skills to use instead of sticking your finger in the air to see which way the wind blows?
this is definitely flailing.
boog and baudib are the names id like to see lynched
if the village thought rong was a wolf, i wouldnt be "flailing" id be like "ok"
you keep coming at me but i have villagery posts. its preposterous i would play wolf like this after having such great success last game at going deeper than ive gone in years
I really don't know where this aggression is coming from.
I've done my best to clear BID and gabe, who I think are villagers.
I have debated with wuf to the point of flipping to a V-lean on him.
I have key, ong, rilla as V, with rascal and monstr less so.
I've tried to ignore it, but I did reread my lengthy exchange with wuf, and the closest thing to rude was my "do you even read m8?" comment, and by WW standards, that's a kiss on the left butt cheek.
I'm seriously not upset at wuf or you or anyone. OOOOOMMMMMMMMM.
Namaste.